Looong have I waited…
Some opinions about this?
Does it sound correct, at least? 😄
"Nineteen years have passed since
the death of Anakin Skywalker and the birth
of the evil Galactic Empire. Fear
rules the galaxy.
After unsuccessful attempts
for a democratic opposition
in the Senate, the Rebel
Alliance has managed to
steal the plans for the
Empire’s ultimate weapon,
the DEATH STAR, during
the Battle of Scarif.
Now, Princess Leia of
Alderaan, daughter of
Senator Bail ORgana and
custodian of the stolen
plans, travels aboard her
starship, hoping to hand
them over to the
I could make Italian subtitles.
EDIT: And Latin ones too. But I believe nobody would be that interested, lol
Of course the edit is still on work. I just had to postpone it because I’m following an online course about business accounting (hoping to find a freakkin job later) which is pretty time-consuming, so…
About chest lights, I’m not sure I’m capable of doing that with the software I’m using. I’d have to mask the small positions and add some effect. I’ll have to see if there’s some quicker way to do that.
Luke’s jumpcuts can be fixed when he ignites the lightsaber (by making the appearance of the blade smoother). I’ll try to do that in other scenes (doors closing, etc) but I won’t guarantee a great result, lol.
At first I wanted to make the red plans, but considering that I loved Rogue One and how it made outdated effects look intentional, I think I’ll keep them white. I’ll enhance them a little bit, but they’ll still be white.
Of course I try and try again every small change, but Sony Vegas is not the greatest (nor is my editing ability, haha).
Is this the final workprint? “Rey Nobody” version has any progress? i’m waiting for that version.
All the work put on this edit is incredible and i appreciate all the effort, but i really can’t enjoy the movie with that twist, that “twist” cheapens the whole trilogy for me and makes the whole Rian vs JJ tug war situation more glaring.
I can’t understand why so many of you have a problem with Rey being a Palpatine. For me, it’s the only possible explanation why she is so powerful. I like the character of Rey, but in Part 7 & 8 it always bothered me, that she was too strong and powerful. But when it became known that she’s a Palpatine, everything made sense to me.
Why was Yoda so powerful?
Why was Palpatine so powerful?
The point is that a part of the audience wanted an explanation, another did not. I liked Rey Nobody because this is one of the few fictional universes where I don’t need an explanation to justify a character’s strength.
Watched the last workprint.
You guys are making me enjoy this movie, and that’s more than I could have hoped.
Buzz Lightyear said:
Different strokes, I guess. I’ve always thought of the “It’s too late for me” exchange as being one of the most powerful in the entire saga, so I can’t wrap my head around the idea of thinking it’s useless. The whole point of Anakin’s tragedy and redemption is that he thought the dark side could not be rejected and could no longer see any good in himself. When Luke rejects the dark side and sees the good in Anakin, it inspires Anakin to finally break free of the dark side.
The PT shows us that Anakin was once a good man, but it doesn’t show us much of anything about Anakin’s mindset about himself after he becomes Vader. And while ESB establishes that Vader is reluctant to kill Luke, it doesn’t establish any deeper meaning behind it other than “he’s my son”. It’s the relationship they have in RotJ that develops it further, with Luke getting through to Anakin by choosing to see the good in him, refusing to kill him, and rejecting the dark side.
Interesting, but as I said I personally don’t need any phrases in that scene. Vader’s gestures, posture and silences look way more descriptive and effective (to me, at least). In my edit there is still a clear conflict, but it’s more subtle.
In my head, when I heard “It’s too late for me son”, I said “Oh, ok, so it’s definitely not too late. Otherwise he wouldn’t have said that”. I think it’s all about the first experience we had with this movie.
Buzz Lightyear said:
So I’m kind of curious why you decided to removed Vader’s conversation with Luke that showed his conflict. Are there actually people who didn’t like that scene? Without it Vader’s redemption comes a lot more out of nowhere, don’t you think? Unless I’m misunderstanding that part of your edit.
The main reasons behind this are two:
- As I repeat, these edits are meant to be watched in Episodic order (I to VI). So we already know at this point that Anakin became Vader out of “love” and fear of loss, and not really because “uhuhuhuhu, I want to become evil”.
- The first time I watched Return of the Jedi, when Vader looks conflicted, the FIRST thing I said to myself was “Oh, ok, he’s definitely going to turn back to the light”. And this made me lose a liiiiiiittle bit of interest, because I knew that, if Luke were in danger, Vader would have helped him. Definitely.
So… no, IMHO it doesn’t come out of nowhere, because we’ve already established in Empire that Vader doesn’t really want to kill Luke. Plus, we don’t need words. In the hallway scene, at the end when Luke is taken away by the stormtroopers, the camera remains with Vader a little bit more. That’s totally enough to show his conflict without useless words.
I just noticed something. The ROTS music that was playing during the pyre was similar to the Clone Wars music playing at the beginning of the episode “Victory and Death”! Both songs have the same motif!
I never noticed! I’ll have to check both.
After all I discovered just a few months ago that the parade music at the end of Episode I is basically Palpatine’s theme.
Anakin Starkiller said:
For Endor, you tried to bring out the greens, you really did, but the result is a nightmare. It’s giving me Harry Potter color correction PTSD.
What the fuck is wrong with you? The CC on Endor received an overwhelmingly good response, so perhaps instead of being a dumbass and just spewing shit you could try and be a nice guy and criticize it politely and constructively? I’ve seen you do this time and time again, but I’ve never seen you trying to help anyone or even do anything. All you do is shit on others. Learn some respect, idiot.
Sorry for cluttering the thread, IlFanEditore.
I don’t mind others’ opinions or criticism. Still, I’m quite satisfied with the result, so it will remain the way it is. As I said, De gustibus… 😉 😃
I kinda like it.
This is really interesting. I’m looking forward to it 😉
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Okay guys, we get it lol. The Emperor in TROS didn’t work for you.
I don’t think this is relevant in a discussion for this fanedit anymore, the transfer stuff is going to remain in this edit.
I’m not saying that. The idea of him always wanting apprentices in order to have a potential new body diminishes his role, IMHO. But on the other hand I like it because it gives a sense of closure on all his immortality talking and on the opera scene in ROTS.
But fair enough, back on topic.
Darth Muffy said:
What I took out of RoS which I really liked the idea of was how it explained Palpatines “stike me down” lines both in RoS and return of the jedi. I like to think that meant that if Luke struck him down in return of the jedi with anger he would of possessed Luke the same way Rey would of been possessed if she stuck him down in RoS through the sith ritual.
This is actually something I don’t like about TRoS. The literal nature of a possible spirit transfer being the real motivation behind one of the crucial moments of the original trilogy cheapens the moral implications for me. In Return of the Jedi, I always thought Palpatine was saying that anger and hatred were corrupting and destructive forces, and that even if Palpatine were to die, he still would have won by corrupting Luke. I realize that doesn’t literally make a ton of sense given Palpatine’s ambition and ruling an empire, but it makes sense in the context of the morality tale that the original trilogy was. This added motivation means there’s a reason for Luke to resist temptation other than showing poise and maturity in the face of evil.
I’m totally with you.
To me Palpatine was always such a great character because he was a fanatic of the Dark Side. He was strong, yes, but he wanted an apprentice capable of surpassing him. Even in the prequels, when Anakin finds out that he’s Sidious, he smiles at Anakin becoming angry. Later, during the fight with Yoda, he’s excited because Anakin will become more powerful than him. He knows that he could be killed, and he knows that this act would strengthen the Dark Side.
Right now… he’s just a Dragon Ball villain. A Cell. Or a Majin Bu. I’ll steal your body so that I can live forever. (On the other hand we could say that in the prequels he’s obsessed with immortality, and that in ROTJ he clearly mistrusts Vader, and so he probably should have a contingency plan about that, being the mastermind that he is)
Wow! Sounds very ambitious. A lot of changes. The colors love k awesome. Sorry to hear about anyone losing a beloved pet. My dog is my best friend. He is by far a non human person. Although, he would likely disagree.
In any case, can I get links to your project, please?
Thank you, I really appreciate it 😉
This has some pretty ambitious stuff! I’m pretty new to watching fan edits and I’ve only watched a handful of them that attempt to add their own effects and completely unique shots so this was a treat for me to see what the community is capable of.
I am personally working on an RotJ cut without Boba so I took special interest in how he was masked. I have personally been cropping but there are a couple shots where I think the cropped image loses focus on the speaking character. These masks are impressive. I’m sure most people just watching don’t even notice the edit. I was watching like a hawk of course and it’s almost like the space behind Jabba is haunted by a ghost 😃 It’s actually kinda cool when you are looking for it.
Special callout to the added establishing shot on Tattooine and the edit of the C3P0 and R2 shot that makes Jabba’s palace look close.
I do think the regrading of Endor definitely gave it a very alien feel so it matches the described intent rather well. That coupled with trimming some of the over the top “humor” and “cuteness” of the Endor scenes made this feel way different than the original in a good way.
All in all, nice work!
Sooooo, thank you so much man! About the Boba masking… there’s a closeup of Jabba (with Boba behind him) where the camera moves just a bit, while the mask doesn’t, and I noticed it from the start… But I said “Well, surely other faneditors would notice, but the average viewer would certainly not”, and considering I didn’t know how to fix it I left it the way it was 😄
Thank you again, I’m glad you enjoyed it
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Hal 9000 said:
Here is the shot with visuals and sound lid in. what do you think?
I’m always kinda late for these videos, lol.
It looks and sounds amazing to me. I LOVE the longer shot and the added ships (it IS a longer shot, right?).
Taking my time and going a lil slow but heres an update on one shot (Looks cooler in video with fires glowing and flickering on the right, and shifting light rays through the fog and smoke.) Since i have acquired new tools, it allows me to go more dramatic with the changes i can do. Also means having to completely redo some scenes, but this is ok because it allows me to fix other things and just generally improve the over all quality. Everything is getting faster and easier to manipulate though, so all in all good.
This is a comparison between the original and revised. Revised adding cracks, haze, smoke, depth of field to the buildings past the arches, light wraps, shadows from clouds and such, etc. The idea is the city just got bombed, theres fires and smoke everywhere, and the sun light is not able to cut through as well. A new sky was included to fit the scene. Buildings split into 3 layers foreground, mid, back etc.
I can’t express how much I love this edit. Getting better and better.
Nice work! The extended explosion shots are great, and it’s a big improvement over your previous version. The only problem I really have is that in one of the shots, you can clearly see Japan getting caught in the explosion. Maybe you could flip the shot, or find some other shot that’s less recognizably Earth?
I didn’t notice that. I’ll flip the shot, because that’s the only acceptable sequence I found.