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#1267240
Topic
SHADOW OF THE PAST (A Phantom Menace edit)
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TRAILER: https://vimeo.com/317461470

Hi everyone.
I’m working on another edit. I hope to continue with the other two prequels.

So… don’t curse me, but I always kinda liked Episode I. Yes, there are many problems. Many.
But in the end, with every one of them I came to some kind of acceptance. Apart from Jar Jar and young Anakin.
On the other hand, though, TPM has a pretty good mixture of real sets, puppets, and CGI. It feels way more realistic than Episode II, which is the worst SW movie by far IMHO. The duels are among the best of the saga, I don’t mind the political subplot, and the soundtrack is so cool.

Anyway, I’ve been intrigued by Sheepish edit, so here it is.

EDIT: I had to change my plans. I can’t make the edit begin with Tatooine. The movie would just be around 1hr, because I would have to cut all the “We need parts for the ship” sections.

OVERALL CHANGES.

  1. Complete color correction, to give a more grounded feel.

  2. Reduced Jar Jar.

  3. Many changes in voice pitch. Padme sounds a little bit younger, Anakin a little bit older. About Gunray and his companion, I lowered the pitch at minimum, so that the audience cannot understand what he is saying, and so that I can add subtitles (but this is just a test. Considering that I’m not american nor british, TO ME it sounds ok, but I’ll need some comments about it).

  4. Naboo is Alderaan. That’s an idea already established in the crawl. Plus, by removing any mention of Naboo and working with subtitles, that can be achieved.

  5. Added OT soundtrack whenever I can.

COMPLETE CHANGELIST (Work in progress)

  1. New crawl.

  2. The invasion of Alderaan happens just after the Jedi speak with Gunray aboard the ship. It makes the Federation more threatening.

  3. Reduced Qui Gon and Obi Wan talking.

  4. Gunray and the other fear the Jedi, but not that much, and they blame Sidious for not forseeing that.

  5. Reduce droids speaking.

  6. Different montage in the duel with the droids.

  7. Not “Is that legal?”, “I will make it legal”.

  8. The Jedi don’t “Force run”, to fix the plot hole of Obi Wan not running to save his master at the end.

  9. Reduced Jar Jar introduction. He just says his name and then he is interrupted by the droid on its bike.

  10. Entirely removed the trip to gungan city. Completely useless. Plus, we keep the “revelation” of the number of gungans for the third act. Obi Wan, Qui Gon and Jar Jar simply smuggle into the city to save the queen.

  11. Reduced bad Keira Knightley acting.

  12. Qui Gon does not say that the pilots have to be rescued. It sounds and looks like a sidequest from a videogame to me…

  13. Droids simply say that they are under arrest.

  14. Reduced space escape. R2 just repairs the ship and they leave.

  15. Added OT Tatooine music when R2 is presented, and when they walk into Tatooine city.

  16. Fake queen does not order Padme to clean the droid.

  17. No Jar Jar stepping on a poo.

  18. Cut Watto saying that mind tricks don’t work on Toydarians.

  19. Exchange between Padme and Anakin moved after the Qui Gon and Watto scene, and reduced. Also Jar Jar reduced. When the kids look away, it’s not because of Jar Jar, but because Qui Gon re-entered the shop. I think it flows quite well.

  20. No “I was glad to meet you too!”. And no “Yuppie!”.

  21. Trimmed Sebulba scene.

  22. No “Moooom, moooom, I’m hooome!”

  23. Trimmed dinner sequence. Reduced Anakin, Jar Jar and Qui Gon.

  24. Trimmed Qui Gon and Shmi’s sequence. No Christ metaphor. Plus, this scene is important because it is the first scene that shows the Jedi how I want them to be shown. Good people, but cold and proud. Qui Gon says to Shmi that she should be proud of Anakin. But not because he is a good kid. No, because he is Force sensitive. This makes Qui Gon colder.

  25. Moved here the scene of Maul landing on the planet. It looks like it’s sunset.

  26. Then we move to the blood analysis. I kept this scene. No midichlorians, but I like the fact that Skywalkers are so strong in the Force that it can be seen in their blood.

  27. Trimmed the whole podrace sequence. Some OT tracks. Reduced race. No Jabba. Anakin starts the race along with all others.

  28. Reduced exchange between Qui Gon and Obi Wan.

  29. No “Qui Gon, sir, wait, I’m tired”.

  30. Trimmed dialogue between Anakin and Padme aboard the ship.

  31. Trimmed sequence between Padme and Palpatine. Similar to Sheepish edit. Padme interrupts Palpatine, and no Anakin and Jar Jar.

  32. No mention of the Chosen One in the Jedi Council.

  33. Trimmed Senate, Anakin’s test and Padme-Palpatine sequences.

  34. No mention of midichlorians by Qui Gon. What he says to Anakin looks like a first lesson.

  35. Aboard the ship, Dooku radio-contacts Qui Gon. They say: “Qui Gon… my young apprentice”. “Yes, my master”. “The Viceroy of the trade federation is now under the control of a Dark Lord of the Sith called Darth Sidious. You must join me, and together we will destroy the sith!”.
    The track “Palpatine’s seduction” is used here. Qui Gon doesn’t reply, so it looks like, after this mission, he will actually join Dooku.

  36. No mention of Naboo when we see al the gungans.

  37. In the royal palace, Gunray says that the droid army has destroyed the planet resistance led by Organa.

  38. Trimmed “plan explanation” scene.

  39. The battles are not drastically changed. Jar Jar is way reduced. In this movie he is not that present, and so when he is on stage he is not that annoying.

  40. The main difference is, as countless other edits have already brilliantly done, that Anakin KNOWS what he is doing. And in the end he saves the day. When he is trying to reactivate his fighter, I mirrored the Luke/Ben scene in the BAttle of Yavin. Anakin hears Qui Gon voice from prior moments of the movie. Then the fighter turns on.

  41. With some montage, Padme, after being captured, does not free herself by shooting the droids. The droids have been deactivated by Anakin. So they take the blasters but they don’t shoot.

  42. Qui Gon dies without a word.

  43. No Yoda and Obi Wan scene. I want to make this trilogy so that the relationship between Obi Wan and Anakin is not that clear. They are friends, not specifically Master-Apprentice. So, in the funeral scene, Obi Wan just says that Anakin will be a Jedi, not that he will train him.

Sooooo… I think it flows quite well. Not perfect, but it’s quicker, cheesy lines are reduced, we keep all the main plot points.
Anakin feels more mature, Padme looks like a young, but strong character. Qui Gon is a good but cold and proud Jedi Knight, and we still can’t judge the Jedi Council. All is grey…

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#1261518
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

Just a suggestion to return to the process of making the audience believe Anakin is dead.
I was thinking about not making Obi Wan kill Grievous and move the Grievous-Palpatine hologram scene towards the end of the movie. When Grievous says “But the loss of Count Dooku…”, it could be changed with “But the loss of Anakin Skywalker…” (taken from the beginning, aboard the separatist ship). And then Palpatine says what we know: “His death was a necessary loss. Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far more powerful”.
It could enhance the belief that Anakin is really dead, and that Darth Vader will be Palpy’s new apprentice. Of course you would have to make Grievous survive, but sill.

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#1260130
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

The whole problem is with Obi Wan in ANH.

A young JEDI named Darth Vader, he was a PUPIL of mine before he turned to evil, helped the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered YOUR FATHER.

No edit can remove Anakin falling to the Dark Side. It is impossible. So we KNOW that Anakin has fallen.
We need to hide the fact that he was Obi Wan’s apprentice, we need to make people think that he is not Luke’s father, we need to make the audience believe that Darth Vader is someone else.

Some of these have already been told.

  1. Remove any mention of “Skywalker”.
  2. Remove Anakin calling Obi Wan “Master”.
  3. Remove Luke and Leia’s birth.
  4. Show Anakin being killed.

Problems:

  1. Obi Wan gives Luke Anakin’s lightsaber.
  2. Luke is on the same planet Anakin was.
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#1257028
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

snooker said:

https://vimeo.com/302713779

password: fanedit

The sounds are entirely unfinished, as I haven’t really isolated the dialogue or completed the saber sound effects. This is a proof of concept more than anything.

I like it. The only problem of course is that they constantly change location from one shot to another.
I think we should put other scenes between different parts of the duel. If we don’t want Yoda going to Palpy, though, it’s really complicated, because apart from Yoda meditating we don’t have other scenes that could happen during the duel on Mustafar.
I like the music and the sound effects.

PS: Or we could… I don’t know, maybe add some dissolve effect between different parts of the duel. If done well, it could show the passing of time.

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#1256885
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

SparkySywer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

I don’t mind the music that much, although it’s very not Star Wars, as others have pointed out. It’s better than the original fight IMO, but I was hoping there was a way to do it without reinserting the Yoda v Sidious fight.

It’s probably not possible to do it that way, though.

I didn’t understand what you meant about cutting the whole Yoda/Palpy duel.
Maybe we could entirely cut that by showing Yoda on the asteroid meditating. With some montage it could look like he is mentally watching Obi wan and Anakin’s duel.
Even tough we would have to find other scenes to insert between the different moments of the duel on Mustafar…
What about stopping when Palpatine shocks Yoda? It would make Yoda look weaker, but we could cut out the whole fight… and we would find Yoda later, finding out that he managed to escape…

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#1256543
Topic
The Fallen Temple Vol 1: Dixon's Cut of Attack of the Clones (WORK IN PROGRESS)
Time

New text is intriguing.
I just remembered some facts: the man who dubbed Palpatine is the same of Gollum and professor Snape.
He is amazing. One of the best alive we have.
And Anakin’s dubber is the “official” italian voice of Di Caprio (almost every movie), Jesse Pinkman, Sherlock Holmes, Ramsay Bolton.
Obi Wan’s voice also dubbed Cumberbatch (just like Anakin’s dubber) in Dr.Strange, and most of Matt Damon’s movies.
3PO’s voice is the voice of Seth McFarlane in both movies and Family Guy.
Last but not least, a pretty minor voice like Kid-Adi-Mundi is one of the best classic voices we had. He is the voice of: Gandalf, Dumbledore, Zeus in Hercules, many Michael Gambon and Christopher Plummer and Max Von Sydow’s movies. A really charming voice.

Ok, I will stop now 😄

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#1256316
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

Someone asked about cutting down some Mustafar stuff.
I tried this, to remove the over the top fight parts from Obi Wan and Anakin’s duel. Just some different cut and a music track in the end. It doesn’t feel like SW, but I like it.
Of course it’s just a rough edit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gGk7Q0fWE&feature=youtu.be

It feels like SW and it is fantastic!! My only gripe is that the music covers the voices at the tail end of the Anakin duel.

Yeah, of course it’s rough, I didn’t spend too much time on it 😉

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#1255465
Topic
The Fallen Temple Vol 1: Dixon's Cut of Attack of the Clones (WORK IN PROGRESS)
Time

Yeah, cause Italian, even if it’s the most direct evolution of Latin (I studied this one for 6 years), is the modernization of ancient Florentine/Tuscan dialect. Every region of Italy developed its own vulgar version of Latin. So of course many many names and words change a little bit.
Res Publica (literally, “public thing”) becomes Repubblica or Republic.
Imperium (not a form of state, but a specific kind of power) becomes Impero or Empire.
I digress too.

But I’m looking forward to this edit 😉

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#1255454
Topic
The Fallen Temple Vol 1: Dixon's Cut of Attack of the Clones (WORK IN PROGRESS)
Time

4throck said:

Good work. Yes it’s a bit strange if you understand Italian, even if only a bit.
But the voice acting here is so much better !

I wonder if there was some way to re-dub the movie in english, specially Anakin.
Perhaps some fan with acting skills and a similar voice could do it.

Anyway, for me AOTC only works if you focus it on Padmé.
Reduce the Coruscant scenes to a minimum and go with the trip to Naboo + Naboo scenes.
Anakin should not be the hero here.

What do you have in mind about this ?

Yeah, I can assure you for italians this is odd, strange.
(PS: I don’t know other dubbing systems, but the italian one is considered one of the best in general)

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#1252661
Topic
KILL SHEEV - A Tarantino-ish Original Trilogy Edit
Time

Hi everyone.
This post is just for ideas.
As title says, I’d like to try an edit based on Tarantino’s movie “Kill Bill”.

First of all, I want to ask you if you happen to have some musicless audio files from any OT movie scene. To add, for example, Morricone’s background soundtrack it would be better not to have the original track.
So… does anyone have some audio tracks with effects and voices but no music? I don’t even know if it’s possible to have somee of them, that’s why I ask.

Anyway…
just like Kill Bill it would be divided into two Volumes.

BEGINNING.

  1. Opening titles.
  2. I am your father revelation scene in black and white. Similar to Pulp Empire, but with no music and different cuts.
  3. Titles like in Kill Bill.

CHAPTERS.

  1. Fight on Tatooine: the Sarlacc’s battle. Just to show a fight, just like Kill Bill’s first scene. We see Jabba (presented with Pulp Ficion-like text), and the scene looks like a common adventure for the group.

  2. The shocked young boy: we return to the revelation in Empire, and moving on until the end of the movie.

  3. The Origin of Darth Vader: considering that in previous chapter we saw Vader, and we already know he is Anakin, here we see his past. I think I’ll use parts from the prequels and the tv shows Clone Wars and Rebels. Just like in the original O-Ren scene, which was all animated.

  4. The man from Tatooine: introduce Obi Wan.

  5. Showdown in the Death Star: show Leia’s liberation and Ben/Vader duel. I’d like to keep ONE single Death Star in the edit, but I don’t know if it is plausible with some montage edit.

END OF VOLUME 1: I’d like to place here the Vader/Palpatine dialogue in Empire, and to end it like Bill’e revelation that Beatrix’ daughter is still alive.

  1. Disaster at Cloud City: show all Cloud City scenes until the duel.

  2. The lonely carbonite of Han Solo: beginning of Return of the Jedi. Maybe until Luke is thrown in the Rancor’s cell.

  3. The wise tutelage of Master Yoda: just like in Pulp Empire, I want to use Pai Mei’s voice for Yoda, and then show how Luke beats the Rancor.

  4. Leia and I: Yoda Dies, Luke talks to Ben, rebel briefing, Luke and Leia speaking on Endor.

Last chapter: Face to Face: final fight and space battle.

I’m in a really early stage, and maybe I’ll realize I don’t have the ability to make this.
But I’d like to get a response or some suggestions.
Of course I think about adding Tarantino’s musics here and there (the music from bride/O-Ren duel for Ben vs Vader, Morricones “L’Arena” music during the training with Yoda, the other Morricone’s music when Bill dies to use for Palpatine’s death, etc.).