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Hoth-Nudist

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#643990
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Where were you in '83? ROTJ 30th anniversary 5/25/83-5/25/13
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was just finishing up 5th grade and saw ROTJ a week after it came out.  I recall seeing the trailer on a saturday night while watching SNL with a sleepover buddy.  I ran into the living room to tell my dad and he said we'd catch it next weekend.  me my dad and another buddy went and caught ROTJ at a mall theater. great day, great memory!

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#624960
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When/Why did you become an OT purist?
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theprequelsrule said:

Around 2006 the wheels started to turn -  I spent a year trying to convince myself that Episode 3 was good and had partially salvaged the PT. But I finally just admitted it was crap. Then I started to get really sick of shoddy CGI in films; which turned me against the SEs for good.

Ultimately though the films just work better with what was originally filmed.

Nerd Alert! Read below at own risk!

The only regret I have is that numerous B-Wing sequences during the Battle of Endor had to be cut due to problems with green screen technology. I loves me the B-Wing.

Yeah!  I agree!  I always wanted to see the B-wing in dogfighting action too!  Along with Y-wing dogfighting in ANH.

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#620485
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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^^^  Agreed.  I enjoyed ST09 and thought it was a wonderful refreshing reboot.  I was intrigued the whole movie.  I excited that Abrams is directing ep-7 and hopefully he can put into the SW movies what Lucas couldnt, and turn things around for the better.  In the meantime, Im excited about discussing the potential storylines and speculation with fellow fans!

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#617988
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Let's all say something nice about George Lucas. No insults allowed.
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 Im sure Luca$'s courtship, up to the wedding plans with this bride-to-be was marvelous!  All the "aggressive negotiations"!    Im sure Luca$ truly,deeply, loves her.  And Im sure he'll have his wedding filmed,  that way in the years to come he can go back to the editing room and tinker with it, digitally adding some sfx or digitally removing unwanted guests or some cake that got stuck in his beard.        ;)

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#613736
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Episodes 1 and 2 and 3 interpreted as comedy
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3PO during the arena cartoon battle:  Im completely beside myself......this is such a drag. 

concerning the use of "m'lady":  I think "malady" would have been better suited instead,  defining the inclusion of  Natalie Portman in SW movies' in the first place.

Such magical one liners that is the PT.  Seriously though,  the sad thing is that the jokes' on us, the people who initially expected to see 3 quality movies,  to provide an epic foundation to the global phenomenon that is the OT.  And instead we got a maelstrom of shatty acting, writing, dialogue, and silly pun jokes. That combo alone could qualify EP-2 and 3 for a B-movie 2a.m. time slot on Comedy Central.  I heard more laughter from the cheesy, circus-bad lines in the theater than from the intentional pun jokes.  Luca$ took a once epic saga and all its integrity, and starting in 1997, slowly turned the SW universe into a giant goat-fuck.  Im sure the PT was interpreted as comedy to Luca$, as he laughed his way to the bank knowing he suckered so many people into thinking they were getting OT caliber movies, and instead paying to watch god awful, ham-fisted, half-cocked movies and and all the damn merchandise.

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#613718
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When/Why did you become an OT purist?
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I watched a little bit of ANH SE on spikeTV not too long ago.  Could only make it to the cantina scene before I changed the channel.  Still cant believe how much mos eisley was changed.  Its more digital refuckery now, twisted and evil.  Its super saturated with recycled jurassic park dinos walking around, absurd jawa hijinx, silly little cgi rodents hopin around, severely outdated cgi stormtroopers dismounting cgi dewbacks.  It reeks of Luca$ and his ass-kissing ILM computer nerdbots trying to make the scene "cute".   Sheer cgi mayhem.  In the OOT, mos eisley was JUST fine.  There was plenty activity going on with various pilots and otherworldly characters going about their business.  The environmental nature was true to obiwans description.  It has an air of grittiness, mystery and danger.  It gives me the feeling of wanting to be "cautious" and to "watch my step".  Then there's the greedo shooting 1st change, which has always been a steaming pile of bantha shit and IMO the worst change ever(the hayden over shaw jedi spirit tragedy is a close 2nd).  It takes away from the original impressions of han solo, and should've been left alone.  In ANH, the character of han solo is that of a gun slinging, cocky, greedy,slick smuggler and an amazing pilot, who is used to fighting his way out of cliffhangers while looking to make money ANY way he can get it.  ANH examples that stand out in my mind the most are:

Inside the DS he's more concerned about preserving his own livelyhood and  has to be TALKED into saving Leia's life, only after Luke mentions a huge payday.

Luke: They're gonna execute her!

Han:  Better her than me!

And then while en route to the rebel base:

Han:  Im not in this for your revolution princess and Im not in it for you.  I expect to be well paid!  Im only in it for the money!

And as he's loading his money into the falcon before the DS assault to Luke

Han:  Ive got some old debts to pay off.  Attacking the battlestation is not my idea of heroics, more like a suicide.

Han even tries to recruit Luke into joining chewy and him in the smugglers life, even though Luke is focused on helping the rebels!  None of these post mos-eisley scenes lets on that Han is trying to redeem himself, or whatever BS excuse Luca$ gave for making greedo shoot 1st.

Throughout the trilogy we see a dynamic change in han as he turned from a brash self-centered, greedy scoundrel of a smuggler to finding purpose in his life with the rebellion and falling in love with leia, while becoming close friends with Luke.  I LOVE the way Han Solo is written in the OT.  This is a huge example of why I became an OT purist.

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#613411
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When/Why did you become an OT purist?
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Humby said:

Hoth-Nudist said:

...(clive Revell's removal for douchebag christensen)...

 

I think you mean Sebastian Shaw.  Clive Revill was the original emperor in ESB (along with prosthetics and some superimposed monkey features).  All the same though, replacing Shaw with Christensen was horribly executed and makes no sense.

OOPS!  LOL!  I stand corrected.  thx!

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#613129
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When/Why did you become an OT purist?
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I became an OT purist shortly after AOTC came out.  I thought some of the SE changes at the time, were ok, mainly with ESB's cloud city.  But I didnt know at the time that Luca$ was gonna phase out the OT and enjoyed having the option of either watching the "faces" VHS OT or my VHS SE's.  I thought the changes to ANH were ridiculous and barely watched it at all.  My OT love soared as I was disgusted with TPM, and AOTC made me projectile vomit.  My devotion to the OT further amplified with increased EU releases-which created numerous plot holes, Luca$'s unlimited lies and middle fingers to fans with further OT changes(clive Revell's removal for douchebag christensen), and the increasing marketing sellouts for $$$$ (SW-transformers, SW angry-birds anyone?).  I just started recollecting the action figures again after Luca$ sold to Disney, but I only buy the OOT figs!  Bought a Wedge Antilles and an imperial navy commander recently.

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#610067
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When did The Empire Strikes Back become more highly regarded than Star Wars?
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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Sorry bro. Most of his lines are delivered very well, but it distracts me every single time I hear him say things like "therearen'tanybasesaroundherewhere'ditcomefrom" because there's just no rhythm to it.

It looks like an Imperial Cruiser, our passengers must be hotter than we thought; try and hold them off, angle the deflector shield while I make the calculations for the jump to light speed.

What a mess. All of his lines in the Falcon seemed like he was just trying to say them as fast as possible, while the lines themselves seemed written for a slower delivery.


 

Disagree. This line would take a couple of seconds for Han to think. He realizes what's happening and gives directions. It makes sense that he would say it fast, as it needs to happen fast. It's a realistic delivery.

absolutely.  Han's delivery is spot on and fantastic.  He's making these observations while under tremendous duress.  Two fast approaching star destroyers, and later a battle station the size of a moon, kinda does that to ya.

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#609940
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When did The Empire Strikes Back become more highly regarded than Star Wars?
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I think it depends which movie critic, if any, one listens to.  I also think the ESB favoritism of ANH is due to the changes of taste as one grows older.  In my experience kids liked ANH MUCH more than ESB.  My friends and other kid acquaintances loved the variety of characters(jawas,droids,cantina aliens, stormtroopers Vader and space battle of ANH.  We all LOVED the x-wings, tie-fighters, and y-wings. the great story with epic battle!  In ESB we thought it was entertaining with the hoth battle, asteroid chase, yoda and Luke vs Vader BUT NOTHING beat the DS assault of ANH.

As me and my SW buddies got older we learned to appreciate the details of the stories, and the multiple impacts of dramatic scenes provided by ESB.  I cant get enough of the deep storyline of ESB nowadays!  I still prefer ANH by a smidge, but i think ESB is the best sequel ever.  Who knows how good ROTJ would've been had Kershner/Kurtz/Brackett/Kasden been allowed to remain.  I can remember back in 93', when SW was beginning its comeback, reading sci-fi mags and talking with fellow fans, and thats when I 1st  started hearing that ESB is the best of the OOT. Many friendly debates ensued!

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#609736
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What Do You Remember From Your First Viewing Of The OT?
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My parents took me to see ANH back in 77' when i was 4.  I dont recall much of it, but was dazzled by the DS assault.

Parents took me again to see ESB in 80' when i was 7, at the same theater that showed ANH.  Loved the hoth battle and remember cringing in my seat when Luke hit the ground in a bloody mess after getting swiped by the wampa.  I still remember the theater crowd oohing and ahhhing during the asteroid chase.  I was most shocked during the "I am your father" scene.

My dad took me and a friend to see ROTJ in 83' when i was 10.  Was mesmerized how Luke advanced his fighting skills and his new green saber during the barge rescue.  HATED that bobafett fell into the sarlac(and still do).  Was mesmerized by the emperor and how wicked he sounded.  LOVED the space battle and talked about it with friends for weeks!  I remember loving that Luke defeated Vader and together they defeated the emperor.

Some of the fondest memories of my childhood!