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I’d be up for Hayden ghost V2.0 as an experiment, at the very least.

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Vladius said:

fanediting was a mistake

Ermmm… yeah!

It’d be an arduous journey, and I’d be up for it if the group forms. And so I don’t mean this flippantly at all, but it feels like forming a secret club as a kid.

I’d be honored, but it would depend upon that council getting along and acting in good faith at all times.

We’d just need some sort of monarch figure to knight us into the position.

Step one: nominate someone to appoint themself monarch.

Step two: this person appoints members of the council.

Step three: the council now has absolute power over their domain and settle all matters internally.

Step four: the council must appoint, either deliberatively or organically, a leader figure.

If I’m included I would give it my all, but I don’t think I could be the take-charge leader since I already have finished saga edits and maintain them. Maybe a member who attends as often as his realm allows him to leave.

We drafting a legislative body to arrive at a purer form of fan editing for objectivized results? It gives the people what they want not what they need.

No, totally. It’s going to end up being pointless in a Rey Nobody cut. And I think you handle it about as well as can be. It at least feels like it could have been that way. It’s just that if it were, we’d be highlighting its pointlessness. lol

The scene feels hollow, but it is convincing as a real scene from THE RISE OF SKYWALKER (2019) if it had been that way in the theater for sure.

Ascendant removes the line from an earlier scene where Kylo says he will turn Rey to the dark side when he finds her. It felt unnecessary and would make sense that’s something he wouldn’t want to just blatantly state.

However, incorporating it here could give this scene… a little bit more of a reason for being. Hardly a dramatic revelation, but it’d be something.

Also, in this version of the scene, there’s no hint that something dramatic is coming in the next scene, though we do still know that he’s on his way and they gotta go, so I guess that still works.

The scene just ends up, “I pushed you in the desert because I’m going to turn you to the dark side.” No shit.

It’s hard setting down something that’s been so involved, like you’re giving up on it despite feeling you’ve done all there is to do. There isn’t really any stopping point that isn’t arbitrary. It just has to feel right.

RL, that Rey Nobody cut of Ascendant V2 is going to get made. And I want to see your ROTJ. If you just need someone to make the editing happen even, I’m sure I could find time here and there to help realize your ideas. I trust you implicitly and imagine there’s something there that ought to see the light of day if you feel that way about it.

And Nev, that’s a refreshing idea for ROTS that addresses a few things elegantly. Anakin more believable could be sic’d on the Separatist leaders right away than fellow Jedi. Obi-Wan steps down from moral purity and begins his lying habit. “I saw… a security hologram… of him… [whatever the most comical atrocity you can think of].”

I suppose you’d need to sentence mix Palpatine a bit to tell Anakin to go to Mustafar while the clone troops attack the Temple. Something would have to be done with the balcony conversation between Anakin and Padme to account for Padme worrying about him. And Obi-Wan’s lie would be oddly specific, to be fair.

Also, if anyone listening wants to make Ben Solo’s lightsaber into Anakin’s during the TLJ flashbacks, please do and I will be happy to make use of it. Would be the cherry on top.

RogueLeader on an average Tuesday, trying to work:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Those are a lot more than one change per film.

ROTS why and how Padme dies. Could she have lived a year or two on Alderaan? Continuity error from ROTJ.

Fuck RotJ.

I don’t even….

Each and every one of those sound wonderful. Will have a good night that night!

Thank you!

omg that clip got me too

SpacemanDoug said:

The US DVD was censored?

When the TV is trying to get them to visit the dump, he reaches into a drawer of photos. One of these has a scantily-clad lady. Originally she had stars censoring her, though for home video she is wearing a bikini or tank-top. Goes by real fast, almost Jessica Rabbit-level censorship.

What are you using to play it? Sounds like it may be playing just the left channel (channel 1) of the 5.1 mix. It’s not the ProRes version, is it? Because that’s just for editing, not viewing.

Oh, sorry, when I said that I thought this was in the fan edits section.

Sending!

I’ll add my recognition of your interesting and well-written take, kyberangel. Refreshing to hear that perspective.

For me, it’s feasible for a fan edit to serve as an effective replacement for the films, and so some of the lows can be augmented or smoothed out.

That being said, TFA is indeed a fun romp that sets things up for more fun to come, almost acting as a trailer. I still don’t care for SKB, and I’d have little to complain about without it. If I could make one change, it’d be to depict the FO as a palpably small but fierce fringe group of terrorists that manage to get a fluke strike in that destroys the symbol of the New Republic. Maybe the new Senate building or something.
Or even if they have to blow up the whole planet, imply that it’s the full extent of their power and done outside of brute strength of resources. Bonus points if the factions don’t look and smell just like their OT predecessors.

TLJ, I agree, has the only real substance or message. It’s the one that actually has a little bit to say other than having a Spielberg-ian adventure. It felt a little self-important at points, and honestly did take some adjusting to given my own expectations. It’s got some meaning to it, and I appreciate it for that.

TROS knows it sucks and tries to BS it’s way through its presentation so it can just go sit back down. I feel TLJ set the stage for a wonderful Episode 9 that never got made. It dared the next one to do better, but they cowered in fear. They backed down from the challenge and talked passive-aggressive shit about it instead. It sucks that it sort of retroactively ruins what came before it, and feels especially poor when postured as the conclusion to Star Wars proper.

Star Wars Episode 9 (in particular) was never an art project, and the value was never in making something good. It desperately needed to be pushed back a year or two, but business couldn’t tolerate that. And I don’t think I should factor that in as a mitigating factor. After all, I don’t benefit from business decisions. If they sacrifice quality for business value, they get a win in the business department and lose my positive opinion. I don’t expect them to care, but it doesn’t mean I ought to extend the reverse to them. Even if it “had” to happen, deferring the release date it what should have happened for the movie’s own good as a work of art. “They had to do it that way, that’s just how things go.” Okay, well cool, I am glad those who benefit tangibly from that are pleased but I don’t see why I should be.

NOTHING WILL STOP THE RETURN OF THE SITH (coming 2028)

IMDB suggests an intended ratio of 1.85:1, despite a 1.78:1 frame. That’d be intriguing to see. If the full frame is released in high quality I’d crop it that way and see how it plays. Joy!

Interesting… how will it be presented for this project? Full image with rounded corners?

Are you suggesting it was something like an open matte? I am picturing the flashing lights on the periphery of the image during the start of “On the Edge,” and the left and right sides are further away.

EDIT: I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say it’s taller and wider than 1.33:1. Unless it’s because of the rounded corners, assuming it’d be projected with those just cropped out.

Dude, the kids and I are gonna have a repeat movie night in the near future. Never thought I’d see this movie in its OAR.

WOW! This is wonderful to hear, and I will look forward to the finished product. I’d love a peek at what’s here now, too.
One of my first questions was whether this is finally OAR. It must be since it’s a film print, but it looks super close to 1.33, perhaps it’s 1.67.

Thank you for bringing this to us. Stoked!

Dunno if you’re looking for fan edits, but I was so partial to Kerr’s edits (that he still never released) that I made extended versions.

If you’re willing to take a chance with minimal description, they’re what I watch.

yes!