Hal 9000

Framed portrait hanging in the Death Star conference room?

You’d think so, but it doesn’t end up working in practice to keep Rey’s parents as nobodies AND have Ochi seeking her. Because her parents then become noble in shielding her, which begs the question as to why.

I could certainly see excising this episode almost entirely if 3 and 5 bridge well, if you’re trying to cram things into a ~2 hour movie. And that’s not to say I didn’t enjoy it.

It’s not gonna be as seamless as the main version but it really comes close to working. Closer than I’d have guessed. There’s still some weird things, like how Ochi is just some random dumbass now.

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Well, ‘Rey Nobody’ has finished the editing stage! I took Burbin’s feedback and applied it to Spence’s version of the bedroom duel and hangar scenes.

There’s still work to do, including retiming all the subtitle tracks to fit and reapplying all the LUTs. But, it’s a-comin’.

Also, a very minor adjustment I made which will also be present in any future issue of either version of Ascendant. TFA and TROS usually give the blue Skywalker saber an ignition sound that blends the classic one and the Sith one, whereas TLJ gives it a mostly new one based off the classic one.

So, if TFA Restructured ever gets reissued, it’ll feature a version of the ignition sound a bit closer to the classic. I will be reissuing TLJ to fix a dumb visual mistake (flopped wrong shots when DJ breaks out of jail), so I went ahead and replaced one ignition sound I had missed prior. Then, in TROS it will now feature the sound originally given to it for TLJ. The logic is that it sounds like its old self until being broken, then it takes on a different sound. (Also, Leia’s saber will be consistent throughout. Someone on YouTube pointed out that in the training flashback, her saber seemed to have a combination of Luke’s and Ahsoka’s ignition sounds. So, I approximated it and applied it to the two other times her saber is ignited, instead of using the classic sound again.)

arabian said:

HAL, you’re pretty darn awesome!

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Also, as a reminder, new users can PM me themselves if they know how. Asking for requests that way avoids bumping these threads.

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Sending you both a PM for the link to finished product.

The funeral is still there! I just meant that scenes were restructured in order to remove Anakin’s murder confession.

Also there won’t be burnt-in subtitles because TAS didn’t have all of them, but I’ll include a .srt subtitle file for the alien dialogue.

Bridger12 said:

It’s too hard for me.

I like this best of the three, although I feel Anakin’s Dark Deeds is more fitting than the Vader/Qui-Gon funeral because it harkens back to Obi-Wan reflecting on what Anakin has become. To me the funeral music sounds more like a statement than a reflection.

To Eddie’s point, I do already make a version of LOE available in which Padme dies. However, my main concern has always been for the saga itself to feel cohesive regardless of any other (in the old way of thinking about it, “EU”) material. So whether Kenobi addresses it or not, the saga viewer is still presented with the apparent contradiction.

Assuming the subject isn’t broached in the remainder of the Kenobi series, I would prefer to leave LOE as it is but to trim a couple things about Kenobi to let the viewer go on believing Padme had lived for some amount of time on Alderaan. I really like Leia’s conversation with Ben in episode 3 because when she wonders about her father, it implies she has less reason to wonder about her mother.

Now, if they go balls to the wall with a hard comment on the discrepancy by having Ben inject memories into her or something like that in a way essential to the story, then we might have an issue. But even so, two versions of LOE dodge the issue. If Kenobi does make a deliberate solution to it, there’ll still be the “saga only” version that coheres better directly with ROTJ.

Fortunately, something like this can be done in FCPX so I was able to do it while having some downtime, since I don’t have to boot into my other OS like I do for most of my fan editing stuff. (God help me the day FCP7 is beyond my reach forever.)

So I’m exporting a candidate, if everything looks right. I followed your directions, with a few tweaks I had to make when facing the reality of what’s there:

• The fireside scene keeps a few more lines than what you suggested, though still removes mention of the kiss, because otherwise there’d be an unavoidable ugly audio transition with the music.
• I reordered scenes as they are in TAS surrounding Schmi’s funeral for the same reasons I did when working on that project: you can’t go from arriving with her body straight to the funeral. So, those few scenes are put in the order they are for TAS. This also involves losing Yoda and Mace reacting to Anakin’s rage, and the first line of Cliegg’s eulogy.

Everything else is as described: Losing the lakeside scene and using the truncated fireside scene, reordering scenes in order to remove Anakin confessing to Padme, and nixing the Dooku v Yoda duel.

Shaw. It’s Anakin as he should have been, at the apparent age he is in his unmasking. Anakin redeemed, rather than Anakin regressed.

Add a floating styrofoam cup of coffee to the conference room scene in ANH. Just floating all around throughout the scene.

Sure, that should be easy.

All sounds good to me, man. I’ll do this when I can get to it, and I haven’t been able to do any of my own stuff in over a week.

If there’s a missing frame, I’d imagine he would be able to reasonably borrow it from the DVD (or upscale) and fill the rest in with information from surrounding frames. Absolute worst case just duplicate a frame to keep sync with audio.

That would also make for zero awkward scene transitions.

I can’t promise a specific timeframe, but I’ll add it to my fan editing to-do list for once my current work on TROS is finished. I’ll plan to output as ProRes video and audio, which you can process or encode however you’d like to. Again, once I hand it off to you I won’t plan to keep it around forever on my end.

Also, to anyone reading, please don’t consider this open season on requesting a ton of slightly modified versions of my fan edits. That’s what the ProRes output I make available is for, so that anyone could take my work and tweak it however they’d like or stripmine it. Malgus presented a simple idea and disability preventing him from achieving it, expressed with sufficient detail that I believe he would if he could.

All said, I hope this scratches the itch for you!

The grass is always greener, so we could very well have been sitting here wishing it had instead been a six-part miniseries. Granted. However, I do feel compelled by the idea of what this would be like as a single anthology film. For one thing, it would easier to include in a watch-through of the main saga. Harder to imagine a presentation of the films but with a miniseries thrown in as well. Maybe that’s more of a formatting thing. Or maybe I am a little OCD.

I mean, I could attempt whatever order of scenes you like, but I can’t promise they’ll sound great.

Here’s the scenes in this part of the movie, so please arrange these in order:

• Obi-Wan arrives on Kamino, speaks to prime minister
• Lakeside kiss
• Padme visits her family (deleted scene)
• Obi-Wan tours the facility and sees the clone troopers
• Meadow picnic
• Obi-Wan questions Jango Fett
• Sunset dinner, leads right into fireplace scene
• Obi-Wan reports to the Council in the rain

In TAS, they go like this:

• Obi-Wan arrives on Kamino, speaks to prime minister
• Padme visits her family (deleted scene)
• Obi-Wan tours the facility and sees the clone troopers
• Meadow picnic
• Obi-Wan questions Jango Fett
• Sunset dinner, [replaced fireplace with lakeside kiss]
• Obi-Wan reports to the Council in the rain

As you can see, the only changes in TAS are to replace the lakeside kiss with Padme’s family, and then replace fireside scene with lakeside kiss. Shifting things around further than this would likely result in ugly scene transitions. Usually better to stick with the theatrical if it can be helped.

You could always do two audio tracks, one with added score and one without, I suppose.

I prefer Anakin’s Dark Deeds. For Obi-Wan this is not yet “omg it’s Darth Vader bum bum bum buh buh-bum, buh buh-bum,” but rather whatever Anakin has turned into. It harkens back to his moment with Padme in ROTS of reckoning with what Anakin has done.

Or… how would it perhaps go to start with Anakin’s Dark Deeds, but switch to the piano Imperial March when he begins killing people? (Maybe skipping into the main part of the theme without the preliminary percussive buildup.)