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#53970
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53970/action/topic#53970
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I'd love to get the SE version of ANH, since I wouldn't mind having a version with the updated Yavin battle (but that's about it.)


Exactly! A version that only has changes that we'd actually LIKE to see.

If the SE laserdisc is easier to work with, that would work too. I hear the quality is considerably better than the OT laserdiscs anyway, so quality would also be notably improved.

That being the case, work could be underway whenever.

Good luck to whoever has the guts to attempt it!
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#53956
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53956/action/topic#53956
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Hey, Laserman (or whoever is good with editing tools):

Would it be halfway possible that, when you make the de-SEed OT DVD in September, that you could make a "good changes only" version.

Kina our own "Halfway Edition" of what the SE probably should have been in teh first place.

It would probably have the SE version of the "look sir, droids!"
The SE fixed up scene of the sky at night on Tatooine where it *doesn't* change color on just one shot.
Perhaps minor shots like the Jawa sandcrawler, speeder flying by and not obscured by rocks, and the extra stormtrooper dismounting a Dewback when threepio says "I don't like the look of this" in Mos Eisley. Any minor shots or little things that actually look good.
But parts where the originals are better would be where the LDs get plugged in.
Parts like the entrance to Mos Eisley, Greedo vs. Han, Jabba scene (although you don't really need any LD footage to remove a scene), and the Battle of Yavin. Pretty much any major changes would be the original version. And the original Alderaan and Death Star explosions.

Empire Strikes Back "Halfway Edition" could have the original Wampa, the original Could City (since the SE has so many continuity erros because of the new hallway windows and stuff), and the original escape from Cloud City sequence.
SE parts of ESB would be the Battle of Hoth (if there even are any changes; i haven't noticed any), Artoo being blue in space, the new hatch inside the top hatch when Lando retreives Luke, and any other minor "good" changes. Also maybe the new shot of Leia through the window of her Cloud City "apartment" since it fixed the roof error.

Return of the Jedi could have the original Jabba dance number, and the original Sarlacc. Whether the ending is new or original is up for debate. I'd personally be ok with whichever version the editor prefers. I would recommend leaving the SE shots of other planets, but when it pans down to the Ewoks it is the original Yub Nub song. This would also cover the Hayden ghost, if for some reason that rumor is true.
SE changes would once again be minor shots that were actually "good". Like having ropes around Han's feet when he dangles off the speeder, the quick shot of the Bantha herd, fixed "stop motion" dude walking across the speeder immediatly after the Bantha shot, Artoo being blue in space again, and any other minor things that were "good" changes.

NOTE TO EDITOR, FROM EDITOR'S POINT OF VIEW ON THIS:
Since the preferred source material is the SE DVDs, you would first map out which original version scenes/shots should be there, and then insert them into the SE DVD file. So minor shots being the SE shouldn't be a problem, since they are there to begin with. A dual layered burner would be preferred, since otherwise the quality of the SE DVD footage wouldn't be at it's original quality. (no funny contradiction intended) And with a dual layered burner you could afford to stick the actual DVD menus on the disc too. You may have to trim out un-needed features such as alternate audio tracks (save commentaries though).

*Phew*
Anyone who thinks they can do this is more than welcome to try.
They could offer the De-SEed original version or the super-delux-ultra-woofrickenhoo-Halfway-Edition.
(But remember, SE bootlegs aren't allowed here)


EDIT: We could even hold polls as to which changes that are disputable as to which are better, such as the ending of ROTJ.
Post
#53957
Topic
Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53957/action/topic#53957
Time
Pasted from another thread. (I posted it originally though, so it's all good.)




Hey, Laserman (or whoever is good with editing tools):

Would it be halfway possible that, when you make the de-SEed OT DVD in September, that you could make a "good changes only" version.

Kina our own "Halfway Edition" of what the SE probably should have been in teh first place.

It would probably have the SE version of the "look sir, droids!"
The SE fixed up scene of the sky at night on Tatooine where it *doesn't* change color on just one shot.
Perhaps minor shots like the Jawa sandcrawler, speeder flying by and not obscured by rocks, and the extra stormtrooper dismounting a Dewback when threepio says "I don't like the look of this" in Mos Eisley. Any minor shots or little things that actually look good.
But parts where the originals are better would be where the LDs get plugged in.
Parts like the entrance to Mos Eisley, Greedo vs. Han, Jabba scene (although you don't really need any LD footage to remove a scene), and the Battle of Yavin. Pretty much any major changes would be the original version. And the original Alderaan and Death Star explosions.

Empire Strikes Back "Halfway Edition" could have the original Wampa, the original Could City (since the SE has so many continuity erros because of the new hallway windows and stuff), and the original escape from Cloud City sequence.
SE parts of ESB would be the Battle of Hoth (if there even are any changes; i haven't noticed any), Artoo being blue in space, the new hatch inside the top hatch when Lando retreives Luke, and any other minor "good" changes. Also maybe the new shot of Leia through the window of her Cloud City "apartment" since it fixed the roof error.

Return of the Jedi could have the original Jabba dance number, and the original Sarlacc. Whether the ending is new or original is up for debate. I'd personally be ok with whichever version the editor prefers. I would recommend leaving the SE shots of other planets, but when it pans down to the Ewoks it is the original Yub Nub song. This would also cover the Hayden ghost, if for some reason that rumor is true.
SE changes would once again be minor shots that were actually "good". Like having ropes around Han's feet when he dangles off the speeder, the quick shot of the Bantha herd, fixed "stop motion" dude walking across the speeder immediatly after the Bantha shot, Artoo being blue in space again, and any other minor things that were "good" changes.

NOTE TO EDITOR, FROM EDITOR'S POINT OF VIEW ON THIS:
Since the preferred source material is the SE DVDs, you would first map out which original version scenes/shots should be there, and then insert them into the SE DVD file. So minor shots being the SE shouldn't be a problem, since they are there to begin with. A dual layered burner would be preferred, since otherwise the quality of the SE DVD footage wouldn't be at it's original quality. (no funny contradiction intended) And with a dual layered burner you could afford to stick the actual DVD menus on the disc too. You may have to trim out un-needed features such as alternate audio tracks (save commentaries though).

*Phew*
Anyone who thinks they can do this is more than welcome to try.
They could offer the De-SEed original version or the super-delux-ultra-woofrickenhoo-Halfway-Edition.
(But remember, SE bootlegs aren't allowed here)
Post
#53906
Topic
Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53906/action/topic#53906
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Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Spicoli
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Rick McCullum - "The essence of the storytelling had to be sacrificed due to the limits in technology". Bull, I'm sure the trilogy truly "suffered" lacking the redundant Jabba scene, the pointless Vader shuttle scene, and the goofy dance number.

McCallum said that? About the original trilogy for which he had absolutely no involvement?! What's his excuse for the prequels?



HAHAHAH! Oh jeez, that was funny.
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#53840
Topic
Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53840/action/topic#53840
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I just received Rikter's TR47 DVD set today.

Here's my review:

Picture - From what I can tell, it is straight from the laserdiscs with no tampering done to it to improve it. Simply laserdisc. It can look at bit... pixelated if you are really nitpicky, but I have no complaints.

Sound - pure uncompressed PCM audio straight from the laserdiscs. Beautiful.

There are no menus, but that's worth it to have the best quality of the film itself.

There are chapter stops for your convienence.

I highly recommend this set to anyone who wants the DVDs and who doesn't have a widescreen TV.