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#699392
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The New Generation of Star Wars Fans
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I threw some 35mm film grain over my prequel fan edits in the hopes it would help everything look a little more like they're part of the same space. It might help a small amount, and mostly subliminally. 

The Hobbit: DoS looked bad to me as well. I didn't bother with the 48fps or 3D this time around, and I was really dismayed at what I saw onscreen. It looks like videogame cutscenes at times. I'm holding out for a decent fan edit of the trilogy when all this is over. And some film grain will certainly be in order. 

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#697781
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD - V2.0 - MKV & AVCHD (Released)
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I was surprised when I learned that the lightsabers in ANH were recomped from their original elements; it's amazing how they can look so different. The sabers in the '04/'11 ANHSE just do not feel right to me. 

The only time in the prequels when a lightsaber felt the same way was when Yoda lopped off the clonetroopers' heads during Order 66. The blade is less defined or something. 

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#696935
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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I remember a clip from someone, possibly The Cutter, that edited that scene to similar effect. I do not remember how he got Palpatine talking about Padme in the first place, since he was answering a question using a pronoun. 

It's an interesting idea, but I don't think it's what I'd want to do. I could imagine, though, wiping away from the scene just as we get a closeup of Palpatine smiling, immediately prior to the infamous "Noooo" line. 

But, hey, I knew keeping the scene would be unpopular, but I think it's best for the story as a whole as I've put it. If Padme were to have died, this would've been a whole different situation.

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#696656
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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Thanks very much; I'm glad my efforts translate into enjoyment. 

I edited them not because I wanted to learn to edit or use Final Cut, but rather because I wanted them to exist. There were several points where I would not have been confident in a given cut or edit I made were it not established by the precedent of an earlier fan edit. (For example, the quick transition from Obi-Wan spying on Dooku's conference to Anakin bringing his mother's corpse home. It was in Slumberland's edit first.) If I were to have tried to do these fan edits without any influence from prior edits, they would not be nearly as good. That's why I've credited every other FanFix edit of these films (listed on FE.org) in the end credits. 

L8wrtr's fan edits introduced many, many clever edits that I replicated in mine. He was kind enough to spend time instructing me on how to achieve the effect for the Sidious reveal scene. Q2's edits contain many bold cuts, some of which I've used too. Seciors' mentorship in the technical aspects was invaluable, and his own fan edits were inspirational to me. Emanswfan gave helpful guidance in some of the technical things as well. Slumberland's AOTC edit was exemplary, as I think he came closest to making the romance plot work. Adigitalman was helpful back a few years ago when I did my first edits, and his edits pioneered many tweaks that have become commonplace by now. Kerr's and AEMovieGuy's ROTS edits were a treasure trove of clever ideas, some of which I adopted for mine. TV's Frink was so kind as to upload gigs of data for me to benefit from, and I sincerely wish there was an unobtrusive way to work in a nod or two to his own (ridiculous) edits. (I had to resist having Obi-Wan chide Panaka in Episode I for sweating.) JasonN's edits had several interesting ideas, a few of which I used in mine. OnlyOneKenobi provided help unlooked for by designing beautiful clothing for these edits, so I didn't have to exhibit the crap posters I threw together to be able to list them on FE.org. If I were to create a subtitle track that played over my edits and flashed a fan editor's name onscreen whenever I borrowed an idea for something, there'd be very little of the film without subtitles. 

It's been a learning experience from beginning to end, and your enjoyment of them is what it's all about. That, and being able to sit through these awful movies myself. Hopefully Episode VII won't require breaking out the 'contingency' versions, though I'm ready for that possibility. Even though they contain a few references to the prophecy, it's still much more vague and could allow for the interpretation that it actually referred to Luke. 

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#696631
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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The idea with the Sidious reveal was to have the lights flicker out when he starts to use the force lightning, then come back on to reveal a monster face when it dissipates. Kerr was the first to use the idea, and L8wrtr used it too. It's not perfect, but it helps do away with a lot of crummy dialogue during that scene. More importantly, it gets rid of the idea that he was injured by his own force lightning. He says this later, but this version makes it clear he's lying. Episode III should have featured a gradually aging Palpatine, like Episode II did. This solution, I feel, is better than what we got in ROTS.

The Darth Vader "Nooo" scene had to stay in this edit. Given what I was doing with Padme and changing who knows what about whom, this scene sets things straight. It establishes that Vader believes Padme is dead, that Palpatine lies to Vader about her, etc. I did try to use the "Nooo" from the 2011 edition of Return Of The Jedi, but I couldn't make it work. The music was too powerful in the clip, and there's reverb of the existing "nooo" in most channels. I never really minded that moment too much, though it is cliche and un-Vader-like. What are ya gonna do? If this edit didn't alter Padme's fate, I'd probably do what L8wrtr did and have the scene fade to black after Vader answers, "Yes, Master."

EDIT: The best way to get the edit at this point is myspleen. PM me for an invite; I still have a few left. Or you can try the fanedit.info site for a .dlc file. 

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#696355
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Star Wars Episode I: Cloak Of Deception (Released)
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DoomBot said:

Can't wait to watch these, i just now got them!

Any chance of releasing PCM audio or (lossless) of your work for all 3? Then I can mux them with your BD version.

Do you also have higher res movie posters for them?

 The only audio source used for Episodes II and III were the retail DVDs, because I encountered mysterious issues when using the BR audio. Besides, I would have wanted to undo some of the 2011 audio alterations anyway. Episode I was mainly BR audio, because I did not encounter said issues, though I used the Laserdisc audio in a few places to undo 2011 audio alterations. For all three films, the audio for the deleted scenes came from the DVDs. As such, the 448kbps AC3 audio track used in all released versions of these fan edits is the only sensible thing to export IMO.

FanEdit.org user OnlyOneKenobi is responsible for the great cover artwork. I've included everything I have from him along with these edits, and have not withheld anything. Only he would be able to export anything in higher res. 

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#696224
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Star Wars Episode II: The Approaching Storm (Released)
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ExNihilo said:

I actually cared about the love between Padme and Anakin, which was no easy feat my friend. None of the other edits came close. Thank you!

I only picked up on a few things:

1- the opening crawl seemed off as far as timing and fade out. Usually they fade into the distance but they were visible on screen and then suddenly gone when it panned down. 

2- some of the scenes (the deleted ones that were added back in mostly) were of pretty poor quality some of the time, especially the first Senate scene and on Geonosis. The Naboo ones seemed fine, though. Was this because I watched the DVD5 version instead of the 720 or 1080? 

In any case, I really enjoyed it, which is really saying something considering the source material. Thanks again and I'm looking forward to Ep III tonight.

 The two issues that you listed have been addressed and will be reflected in an upcoming fixed version. It's not really a 2.0, but just to fix a few glitches that DominicCobb pointed out, and the crawl issue you listed that I noticed too. I don't know why the crawl didn't have a crossfade applied; I went over everything a zillion times before exporting. But it's fixed. 

The deleted scenes (the opening one with Padme in the Senate, and the confrontation on Geonosis with Dooku) suffer from frame rate issues. So they should look smoother and better in that regard, though the resolution and look of them will be the same. In other words, a screengrab of the fixed version would look the same. I'm also going to increase the amount of film grain slightly, to help better mask the drop in quality when using a deleted scene. 

I am glad you enjoyed it; I think Episode II is "most improved" over the original version. It was based in part on Slumberland's brilliant edit, at least in terms of the romance plot.