I think the DVD's colors look better than th BluRay's during the first few scenes of AOTC. I like the white overcast look. The BluRay seems to have a bluer sky, particularly on the establishing shot of the Senate building. I wouldn't mind emphasizing the cloudy look there.
I agree. I cobbled together a GOUT-synced custom sound mix for ANH with the '97 mix as the default, for exactly that reason.
Looks great! I especially like the shot of Anakin and Padme on the balcony. The warmer, film look will make a big difference.
"In short, they are going very well. Blah-blah has fallen, and [your mother] has moved [her] troops to [Naboo/Somewhere else]."
"You have allowed [your mother] to twist your mind..." and other such nonsense.
emanswfan said:
I was scared there for a second before looking at the thread, that the terminator came back. Goodness, he was a ridiculous fellow.
JEDIT: still find it hilarious to see "I'll be back!!" grayed out.
Now I'm picturing the Terminator hunting down fan editors, or attempting to. He might break into a film museum, head to the 2001: A Space Odyssey display, and incinerate the Hal9000 display.
DominicCobb said:
darklordoftech said:
Hal 9000 said:
There would be fan edits a-plenty
But obtaining fan edits is illegal and requires lots of technical knowledge.
Neither of these things are true.
None of those things are true. However, I'd love to take a shot at a hybrid SE, if both sources are ~"compatible."
I hope I'm not too late, but I wonder if Obi-Wan ever responds to anyone with, "Because of your mother?"
Harmy and his project deserve all the positive attention they are receiving.
Releasing a hybrid SE would be silly. There would be fan edits a-plenty for that sort of thing.
I'm curious to see what color the "far, far away" title card will be.
My best guess, in-universe, is that although such things would be possible and easily doable, mass media isn't a strong force for cultural reasons. It just gets lost amidst a galaxy of voices.
I wouldn't mind clues from future books that help mend these oddities, like Darth Plagueis, weaved into a compelling story.
And that's exactly it. I can find fun in finding in-universe explanations for oddities in stories, especially in Tolkien's world. It's strange to juxtapose ignorance and lack of media with FaceTime chats across half a galaxy's diameter.
Has shockwaves when he farts.
The following thoughts are asked from a fully assimilated, 'saga' perspective. I appreciate the convoluted history of the story, the improvised nature of which largely causes these questions. But I am thinking about these things in light of all material up to the present.
The prequels and Clone Wars series establishes Anakin Skywalker as a relatively well-known war hero. The novelization of Episode III makes it sound like Anakin and Obi-Wan are two of the most famous Jedi around. Yoda is seemingly the prime member of the Jedi Council. The holonet seems to function like the internet does for us.
The Empire suppressed information and spread propaganda, but a whole galaxy can't just forget what was so well known after 19 years. Vader's identity is not public knowledge, and I believe the official story is that Anakin was killed defending the Jedi temple.
Fast forward. Luke Skywalker is told that his father was a navigator on a spice freighter. Obi-Wan seems to bring Luke up to speed by giving him more or less the 'official' version of the story. Anakin was famous, so I wonder if Luke ever heard of him elsewhere. If so, would he have had the realization offscreen that his father was THAT Anakin Skywalker? If not, how did that information become to thoroughly suppressed? Obi-Wan was willing to let Luke know the seeming 'official' version of Anakin's story, but Owen dreamt up something much more mundane.
The deleted scene with Red Leader, Biggs, and Luke that was partially reinstated for the SE references Luke's father. It seems like others in the galaxy know who Luke's father is by merely knowing his surname and Jedi status. Is the lack of knowledge that his father was a Jedi sufficient reason for Luke to be taken in by Owen's lies? Again, does this mean that he must have realized later, "Golly, my father was THE Anakin Skywalker?!"
Related to that, why does Luke not know what Yoda looks like? Is it because he simply did not have time to research it between hearing about him and leaving for Dagobah? Surely Luke would have done a galactic Google search about the Jedi and have seen (even propaganda-spun) information about some of the most famous Jedi.
I'd like to see these issues addressed in the upcoming Heir to the Jedi novel. I've always found it confusing about who in Star Wars knows what. This issue was really driven home in the pre-prequel EU, because the prequel story had not been told yet so there was nothing for authors to have the characters know. Since the post-ROTJ EU was written in broadly chronological order, the time at which the prequel films were released coincided in-universe with discoveries of old information that had been lost. Now that the EU has been "rebooted," as it were, I'd like to see novels tackle this issue more directly.
You can say that again.
Double post
JediZombie said:
Not it's not. It's the same as calling both Iron Man and Thor films Marvel movies because they take place in the same universe.
And what's the problem in that?
I'd also like to hear some opinions about the two possible methods I outlined above. Which do people prefer: the 70mm with some things added to it, or the '97 SE mix de-crappified? Either one is a viable possibility for a potential hybrid version.
I'd love the 1997 mix synced to the GOUT, with bits that don't match what's on screen fixed. I even put a rudimentary version of this together by merely cobbling together a few sources.
I grew up with the '97 SE on VHS, so there are plenty of things from the sound mix that don't sound right when I watch the full-on OUT. The Falcon's computer sounds, and little bits like that.
Version 2 is in the process of distribution. The DVD5 version is being seeded on the 'spleen, and being uploaded to a file locker. The 720p and 1080p versions will follow as they finish encoding, which takes about a week each.
That's an ewok if I ever saw one.
Sorry, I had a late night and early morning! But I think this looks more than adequate. It's a fairly static shot and the frame blending wouldn't be noticed unless carefully searched for. Mission accomplished, and thanks so much!
Sounds like its coming along well. I think it'll be a great edit for flashback order viewing.
Editing Leia's line in ROTJ certainly would be easier, but I guess it depends on your philosophical approach. lol
I checked out the workprint last night. I did not sit down and watch the entire thing, but just skimmed through to get an idea of what you were doing.
During the TPM prologue, the flashbacks work well but have a few oddities. For one, it really seems to me that Qui-Gon and Shmi are married and that Anakin is their child. This isn't called into question until she asks, "Can you help him?" and he takes Anakin with him. I'm not sure if anything concise can be put in to help this.
The flashbacks don't come off as totally seamless, but I think any viewer would understand what you're doing. I think it works, even if it isn't convincing as having originally been that way. I wish there was a good way to introduce some dialogue into the opening duel. Even just something short with Obi-Wan's name mentioned.
So Obi-Wan doesn't visit Kamino at all. Are the clones ever revealed to be clones of Jango? Is there a line of dialogue that explains this? Again, I didn't actually watch the whole thing. That's my only (small) concern about losing the Kamino stuff.
The romance plot seems to work pretty dang well, and having the primary goal of compressing the story makes this relatively easy.
The aim of this project is to have a three-in-one prequel film suitable for watching in flashback/machete order with the OT, right? Those two viewing orders, in my mind, really highlight the disparity between Padme's death and Leia's vivid memories of her. You know what I did for my edit to address this, but I just want to point it out a something that I notice about the WP.
How's the running time for you? Do you have a timecode in mind that you wanted to shoot for? Of course, the WP is longer than a normal Star Wars film, which might be okay for you.
hundsdorfex said:
I'm still trying to fix it, but not to worry, it will look good.
It is not nearly as noticeable as with the Death Star/Tarkin clip, so it's no big deal.