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Shadester9 said:

what are your thoughts on redubbing Jar Jar with an alien voice (and subs) to make his dialogue not only bearable but good, like the Anti-Cheese edits?

It could be fun to try, and I’d toyed with doing an alternate version just to try it. But I haven’t, and I would not want to subtitle Jar Jar since he’s a supporting character who follows the core group around as opposed to a villain we see here and there (like Jabba).

The idea was that, because I use the Phantom Editor’s redubbing of Zam to cut short the toxic dart investigation, it’s clear that she is reverting to her true form as she gets her dying words out. If that wasn’t the case, I’d agree and allow it to be the effects of the dart making her disfigured. I do like it when edits do the “I think he is a she” joke.

Thanks! The scene in the dim room with Mace, Yoda, and Obi-Wan is indeed a deleted scene, and thus will look better in V4 using DrDre’s upscale. It does, however, replace a similar scene later that uses some of the same dialogue. I chose this one because it involves Obi-Wan.
I think my edit keeps more of the opening sequence than most, and I didn’t do anything to shorten the saber duel aside from microcuts to take care of things like the platform seeming to crush Obi-Wan’s legs. I’d keep more of the opening if it weren’t for those silly battle droids and their voices. I’d like to have kept the snippet where they fight the destroyer droids and board the elevator, but I can’t remove the high-pitched battle droid chatter and moaning as they get hacked.
The scene where we see the Emperor’s monster face is taken from Kerr’s edit (also used by L8wrtr), with the lights going down as the electricity starts, and coming back on to reveal a different appearance, implying that he was masking his true appearance all along. Sort of hokey, but it really allows for a better portrayal of Anakin’s decision than having Palpatine ham it up to the extreme.

The dialogue for the love pledge scene isn’t an a la carte thing for me because of the music. In V1-V3 I left in some terrible dialogue in the name of preserving the production value. For V4, I gave the scene a fresh attempt, and I think this combination of lines works better than the older configuration while having the music work perfectly.
Removing the creep line would really mean cutting the whole exchange, and I’d like to keep Anakin’s hesitancy about what he’s doing. Maybe look up Richard Cheese’s cover of Creep to take your mind off it. The Approaching Storm, if it had been what was released theatrically, would still not have been known for good dialogue.

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I appreciate the feedback! The group I watched the saga with this year (one film per month leading up to now) was also torn about the Yoda fight scene in Ep2. To me, an edit has to assume that the audience has not already seen the original version of the film, even though this will not be the case 99.9% of the time. Not that you should show her, but I wonder what your wife would have had to say about the romance had you watched the theatrical AOTC.
Sadly, V4 of Episodes II and III will not be out in time for TFA. Even if Schorman posted right now that his source material has been uploaded and is ready to go, there would be no time for me to implement it, export and upload for you all. V3 is just fine, though, so it’s not like you’re gonna see something that’s half-baked. V4 will be the finishing touches is all.

towne32 said:

I agree with the decision to use the family scene.

Also, didn’t you tweak end of the kitchen dialogue recently to make it a little more bearable?

I took Octorox’s advice in silencing the line, “Our relationship is strictly professional.”
I had already removed, “It’s obvious he has feelings for you,” and shortened the mother’s reaction shot.

Thanks very much! The family dinner scene is hardly cinematic gold, but I agree with the fan editors who preceded me in including it for its value in demonstrating some suppressed infatuation on Padme’s part. In AOTC, it seems like Padme can’t stand Anakin until she abruptly falls for him. This deleted scene bridges the early “you’re just that little kid” stuff and their “bonding” on Naboo before Anakin has his nightmare. In AOTC, she seem to loathe having him around, she kisses him and immediately regrets it (probably because he’s such a moron), she has to make up a reason for him to leave her alone (“I’m a senator”), and then transitions into falling in love with him as he confesses to genocide.
However, one thing for us to consider about the family dinner scene is that in my edit of ROTS, we do not see her family at her funeral. So… yeah, there’s that. I’m still inclined to keep it for its use in showing Padme having feelings for Anakin. It also gives a touch of resistance to them, so their romance doesn’t seem 100% linear. (Since I had to remove so much of the “we just can’t be togehter because of x y z.”)

Start playing the edit in your DVD or BR player. Once the certain scenes begin, eject the disc and put in the original. When the sequence is over, put the edit back in.
Pretend they’re LaserDiscs. Everything’s better on a LaserDisc!

But really, dedicate just a few hours to looking into how to edit together video clips. You wouldn’t need anything fancy at all, just splitting a video into clips and then rejoining them.

This trilogy of edits just seems to have a checklist of disliked moments cut out. I wouldn’t expect someone to see this and feel like they just watched a polished film.
I kept Vader’s “NOOO” precisely because it was too jarring to remove while keeping the rest of the scene. Most YouTube work I’ve seen (at least for single film edits; I don’t really care for 3-in-1’s) just cuts things wherever and may or may not smooth over the audio and apply a wipe transition. The Anti-Cheese versions are far from the worst, but the murky world of FE.org has collectively put out much better work, though aren’t as enticing as clicking on a YouTube link.
ImperialFighter, please let us know if you find anything in YouTube that’s well done, though.

It’d be rather easy for you to use even something like QuickTime to cut/paste together a hybrid version from mine and the original.

Jar Jar is cut about as much as average, I think, but Padme still dies.

My old ones from 2007ish did.

Very nice. I’d be interested in hearing any specific reactions or thoughts, even if they don’t pick out any specific differences.
Did you all watch the six films in release order, then?

That’s right. I’m waiting on Schorman’s V2 release of his source material, because I want V4 of my project to be final.

Yes, and they’re a way to artificially make Anakin seem special.

Check your PMs.

I’ll have it out ahead of TFA:SE.

cranyx said:

Harmy do you know of any ETA on when 2.0 will be done? I know it probably won’t be before TFA, but I’m just curious.

Facepalm

Not that I think what you posted is inappropriate, but I’m officially out of this thread. See you all on the other side!

Yeah, that file appears to be missing in action… for some mysterious reason. I’m re-zipping and will re-up the 1080p version, however, the .info guy takes a while to list it. Until then, anyone who sees this can PM me for help.

PM sent. For the record, the files all appear to be up and fine, unless anyone else can report having any issues with getting them.

FanEdit.info is the best place to find them, and includes a FAQ with instructions.

Not too late to read some post-ROTJ EU. Last dance with Mara Jade.

Non-serious idea. Use this scene to have Padme screaming during the Taintive conversation, pleading to have her baby boy back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ZtDr6CqD0