That crawl is absolutely wonderful.
Wow. Agreed! It makes me regret having just published revised prequel edits featuring new crawls that can’t touch what you just posted!
Dubbing in new dialogue and lip syncing Leia might turn out to be pie in the sky, and it isn’t crucial to the edit if we don’t end up cobbling anything together.
And, Ridley, that looks great! I’m already able to render my own crawls, using JackPumpkinHead’s Blender template that mimics Adywan’s crawls. I just had to tweak the timing. BUT, if you wanted to render a version of yours, it couldn’t hurt for me to compare them and decide if either of them edges the other out. It’s up to you, though.
Sure, I can render a clip! I takes a while, so it might be better to save it for later in case you decide to change the text again. But I might render it anyway, I’ll link it here if I do.
I think technically my version looks a bit closer to the original one (after all, they used After Effects for the TFA crawl). I closely matched things such as the blur on the text in the distance.
http://i.imgur.com/3KBqQuu.png
I changed the font of the title to match the crawls of VI and I-III but I might change it back to the original again (IV, V, VII) as they will probably keep that one going forward.
Haha, gorgeous. Yes, I would love to have you render out yours, even after tinkering with mine for so long. When someone with power tools offers to help, put down your hand tools. I would, however, request using the same font for the title as the theatrical version of TFA.
However, I think that it would help the narrative if it is shown that the Resistance is actually trying to warn the Republic and hopes to get their help. That would be possible by inserting the deleted scene in a similar fashion to what NeverarGreat proposed and possibly by using a suggestion I made before that has someone asking if the Republic will send help during the briefing scene. If the proper audio could be found, we could use the cut shot of Leia right before 3PO’s line about the Republic fleet to have her answer that question with “No.” or “No, they won’t.” Then we’d only need to get a shot where we could have someone ask “Will the Republic send help?”. I’d place the added lines right before Poe says: “We’ll go in there…”
That’s… a very not bad idea. Good call with the cut shot of Leia. I’ll hunt around for dialogue for Leia, if people would like to send clips of themselves yelling out, “Will the Republic send the fleet to help?” Or something like that.
My conception of this was that the Resistance doesn’t know who or what is being targeted. They just found out about another planet-destroying weapon, and rush to launch a pre-emptive strike. We know they’re targeting “The Republic,” but the Resistance doesn’t appear to know what they are going to do. (This is something I infer based on the structure of the edit, but it’s not necessary for the audience to infer it the same way as I have.) If we are able to use the deleted scene where Leia sends her envoy to the Senate, it would help sell the idea that they don’t know it’s that system that will be destroyed. I don’t think construing the Resistance as believing they are the target would work well onscreen. Targeting the Resistance after destroying Hosnian Prime might work in theory, but I don’t know how we’d do that.
I could trim the trench run slightly, removing lines, “I need some help, here, I need some help,” and, “Comin’ in,” along with an establishing shot of a stationary gun.
And, Ridley, that looks great! I’m already able to render my own crawls, using JackPumpkinHead’s Blender template that mimics Adywan’s crawls. I just had to tweak the timing. BUT, if you wanted to render a version of yours, it couldn’t hurt for me to compare them and decide if either of them edges the other out. It’s up to you, though.
The final version, V4.2 was released recently. Please ensure you are working on that version, as older ones have been let go.
If you need further help, PM me please.
If we go with this change of NeverarGreat’s, it will make it more important for the crawl to allude to a weapon in some way. Here’s a proposed re-re-re-re-re-re-re-revision to include a short mention.
Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the fallen Empire, plotting its return to power.
Failing to convince the New Republic to combat this emerging threat, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert RESISTANCE while the First Order completes its devastating new weapon.
Desperate for her brother’s help, Leia has sent her most trusted pilot on a daring mission to Jakku, where a clue has been discovered to Luke’s whereabouts…
Looking (and sounding) pretty good. 😃
Head canon: He was a different guy named Wedge, and he decided to abandon the rebellion between the briefing and the launch of the attack.
Posted where?
I agree about not using Hosnian Prime as the location of SKB.
In theory, it would be a good thing to have Poe say something in that moment to the effect of, "Finn here worked on their base!"
As with any of these ideas, unfortunately, it comes down to deciding whether it can be done convincingly. We’ll have to see, but could you post a link to the most recent version you got?
On the contrary. After V1, I was sitting around hoping for other people to improve upon it.
Now there’s an idea to toss around. I may not get the chance until the weekend but I’ll see how that does pacing-wise for sure.
This scene might just be best served with simple omission.
Something like that sounds good in theory.
It’s probably more jarring than it’s worth to have Poe mention “a weapon” like that. Might be better to just let us infer it as the movie goes on.
I agree with Kexikus.
Hee hee
I love the new mockup about using the deleted scene. I agree about the wipes, and having Snap’s line begin before we cut to him and Leia would be best. I hope this gets spruced up enough to really work well. The good thing is that it would just be a bonus, and nothing really hinges on it for the edit to work.
I agree I’m overthinking the crawl at this point. 😃 I will leave the first paragraph at, “plotting its return to power.”
I will be keeping reference to Luke as Leia’s brother, as a germane reminder to the viewer, but in a more subtle way than the theatrical TFA’s crawl.
Mala, Dominic, try to get along in this thread. Since Disney took over, we’ve all felt the need to be militant about our opinions. We’re probably all still used to being of one radicalized mind about the OUT, and find ourselves in a brave new world full of ambiguity. Let’s try and drop the Dr. Strangelove paranoia.
And I am pretty happy with this being the crawl’s final form:
Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen in secret from the ashes of the fallen Empire, plotting its return to power.
Failing to convince the New Republic to combat this emerging threat, General Leia Organa gathers allies from the farthest reaches of the galaxy to form a covert RESISTANCE.
Desperate for her brother’s help, Leia has sent her most trusted pilot on a daring mission to Jakku, where a clue has been discovered to Luke’s whereabouts…
NeverarGreat, and others, I apologize because I edited my post right afterward to revise it yet again.
JEDIT: There’s just something satisfying about seeing the capitalized word “Imperial” in those yellow letters, I gotta say as I am looking at the pre-render version in Blender.
Here’s another attempt:
Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen in secret from the ashes of the fallen Empire, plotting a return to Imperial rule.
Failing to convince the New Republic to combat this emerging threat, General Leia Organa gathers allies from the farthest reaches of the galaxy to form a covert RESISTANCE.
Desperate for her brother’s help, Leia has sent her most trusted pilot on a daring mission to Jakku, where a clue has been discovered to Luke’s whereabouts…
I could perhaps resolve the problem of correct grammar implying that the FO once held power with this:
“Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen in secret from the remnants of the fallen Empire, plotting their return to power.”
It is too much of a stretch to describe “ashes” as plotting “their” return to power, but perhaps “remnants” would work.
I swapped adjectives around to avoid using ‘secret’ twice.
The theatrical described Poe as daring, implying it’s why he was selected for the mission.
I could call the Resistance “brave,” as in the theatrical, and Poe’s mission “covert.” But, I like “covert RESISTANCE.”
If I go with the most recent revision of the crawl I posted, I will need to change the second sentence from, “plotting their return to power,” to, “plotting its return to power.”
‘The First Order’ is a singular subject, and another verb in the sentence already treats it as such (“has risen”).
So, the first paragraph would read: Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen in secret from the ashes of the fallen Empire, plotting its return to power."
The SKB sequence is complete, as far as I’m concerned, so it’s ready for final render 😃
On another note, the final shot of the film has bothered me since my first viewing, since it weaves and bobs drunkenly.
What do you think? I know it’s not strictly related to the edit. 😃
That’s definitely going in TFA:Restructured. WITHOUT setting up a slippery slope, I’m gonna make an exception.
We decided on using the star destroyer, not the shuttle. But I believe Ridley is working on it.
Neverargreat is working on the sequence going from the end of the duel to arriving back at the Resistance base.
And I’m working on the crawl. And I think that’s pretty much all that remains. 😄
I’ll be releasing a balls to the wall version encoded at maximum settings with uncompressed audio output.
Since you mention it and that they are now 1000% finished, would you also do the same with your PT ? (by the way the new crawls really look nice; new texts are also an improvement, it’s subtle yet better; good call about the colors that aren’t the same, I don’t remember if it was the case for the theatrical versions).
Due to the shortened runtime, little compression was used in the first place on them. Ep1 has noise (grain) added, and Ep2 is based on a noisy HDTV capture. Episodes 2 and 3’s audio mix is based primarily on DVD audio, and all use deleted scenes.
All in all, it wouldn’t make sense to output a version higher than what will fit onto a BD25.
The sounds seem perfectly baked into the mix, and do not stand out as being added. However, at times it sounds like the sound effect is looped back to its beginning partway through, rapidfire. I wonder if the first ‘instance’ of the sound that gets interrupted could fade out for half a second or something, letting it trail off rather than immediately being cut off. Like a toy that makes a sound, but if you hit it again it abruptly starts over.
Other than that at a few points (heard most at 1:26).
It’s quite possible, though, that I’m imagining this and the original effects you are using are already like that. I offer it just in case it’s at all helpful.
