I did, and I didn’t begin fading in until after your sequence! But it doesn’t matter, because now that I look at the output, it does add a very slight degredation of the video and noise. Oh well, no color correction for that scene. It was just a “may as well” thing. It’ll be in NeverarGreat’s edit, though.
Thanks for that cutlist. I was going to write one up this morning anyway, so that’ll help. I’m not going to crop Chewie out of the shot with Leia, though. I’m doing something slightly different with the ‘late afternoon’ grade of the Maz’s Castle battle sequence… Since the color corrected versions overlays perfectly with the original, I am going to fade in the effect very gradually until it’s just slightly less pronounced than when it originally appeared to be sunset. Sort of a middle ground, and subtle.
I’m pleased to report that I am exporting a test file of the entire film, to send to Mala to get subtitles going. I can still tweak audio and put in foley, but I think we’re good in terms of sync. We could spend another year easily on further tweaking things, but I really like where we have ended up here in the eleventh hour.
Crawl from Ridley: really a beautiful job. It lines up perfectly, and there are no problems. We went over the wording a while back, and I like what we arrived at.
Maz’s castle sequence: Wonderful, just what we were waiting for. Finn’s new line sounds pretty damn seamless.
Snoke scene: This sequence has come a long way in a short time, and I think Ridley has got it about as good as we’re going to be able to get it. I’m not ruling out a V3 if compelling new resources become available, but I am happy with what’s here. For all it’s weirdness, I do “buy” this version as a legitimate scene, which is valuable in the fan edit economy. (And that superfast, awesome FX work… Jeez Louise.)
Ridley has been able to make the slowed down shots look unrecognizably seamless. If you haven’t downloaded them to check, trust me.
About the opening theme. I agree with DominicCobb on this one, as I said, for the reasons he outlined. I actually like that, aside from AOTC and ROTS, each film’s opening has its own characteristics. To hear it come on and be able to tell, “Ah, that’s ____'s opening theme,” makes me happy. But, I have zero problems with anyone making a second audio track.
On my to do list for tomorrow is to add X-wing and Resistance base foley to the Starkiller firing sequence. But, you guys, other than that and any problems the test export may reveal, I think we’ve got the edit locked in for V2.
FWIW, I agree with DominicCobb on this subjective question. Given the aim of the project, I’ll err on leaving it alone, but welcome anyone to make any alterations to it they want in crafting edits from it.
Yes, and thank you very much for doing so! ChainsawAsh, and anyone else, please do absolutely anything you want with any of this stuff, including the edit as a whole. Don’t even ask! 😃
Regarding the alternate music; it’s the sort of thing I really would prefer not to do. Not sure how to put it into words, but it’s the same instinct that drives me to reword the TFA:R crawl to closely follow the original, and the reason why I intentionally varied the crawls in my prequel edits (color, glow, and angle).
I do want to let each movie feel distinct. I like watching ESB’s crawl and instantly recognizing that crawl for what it is, with it’s idiosyncrasies. Some people really like that the PT used the same recording for each crawl and want to use that one for TFA as well. Me, on the other hand, I wanted to find alternate recordings of the opening theme to use for Episodes II and III, though this didn’t pan out.
It’s all rather moot, though, as the existing audio provided doesn’t sync with the theatrical. Presumably Adywan crafted it for his universal crawl template. If anyone wants to build an edit from TFA:R V2, that alternate opening score will be available for them.
Just checking in briefly from work! You’ll have to imagine wild praise from me for the time being, because all I have time to chime in about right now is about the slowed down shots. Once the Starkiller begins to fire, most if not all of the shots between that point and the Hosnian system coming into frame are from elsewhere in the film and have been slowed down. And yes, all of these are present in the ‘big test’ video. However, I cannot enable downloading of the video without paying Vimeo, and I can’t upload the clip another way unless I’m at home. 😕
Regarding the slowed down shots, I do not have a way to make those better than what’s there now, but if anyone is able to do so, feel free and pass them along.
I totally agree that such dialogue would be great to have there, but I don’t think the existing material to work with yield something worthy of inclusion. Such is fan editing. 😕
It’s quite possible I won’t be able to check in here at all tomorrow, so please proceed without me on the Snoke scene if you can; I don’t want to hold it up and trust the group we have going implicitly.
For tonight, my goal is to give the Hosnian sequence the additional TLC you guys have called for today.
I would love to sit here and provide praise and feedback about what poured in throughout the day, but suffice it to say for now that it seems the future of the Snoke scene ought to be in fishmanlee and Sir_Ridley talking to each other, using the scene order from Ridley and the music from fish. Really great output from you both.
V2 is going to really be something grand, the fulfillment of my thought upon completing V1: "I wish someone would come along and take this idea/material and make it better."
I will take another look at the Hosnian Prime destruction audio based on provided feedback, though may not be able to until Thursday. Again, I am hoping to be able to begin exporting sometime Friday, if there’s much hope to have it on people’s hard drives in time for pre-TLJ showings. I hope you all have reserved seating in the theater!
Here’s the best I can come up with based on what we have so far:
https://vimeo.com/245941596
password: chunk
Yeah, no kidding.
And I think for the Leia scene, it’s “Tell them I insist the Republic take action against the First Order,” and “Not all the senators think I’m insane.”
I’ll await the corrected crawl, and look forward to what I’m certain will be a wonderful Snoke scene. I’ll upload my best attempt based on what I’ve got at this point in a few minutes before dashing off to work for the day.
And here’s the crawl, Mala!
https://vimeo.com/245925551
password: subs
Ridley, that crawl is gorgeous.
Great! Here’s the deleted scene, for now:
https://vimeo.com/245915123
password: subs
You guys are giving me a lot to work on this morning! I won’t be able to edit further until Thursday morning, at which point I will need to begin exporting in order to have this out ahead of TLJ.
Ridley said the Maz’s Castle sequence is about to be uploaded, and I think at this point we are scrambling for the Snoke scene. That’s all that now remains!
I mean this sincerely and in a good way: this project is a collaboration through and through, and I will reflect whatever consensus is reached about this Snoke scene, be it an existing approach or something new.
Mala, if I am able to provide you a shit-video-quality version sometime Friday, do you think it’d be a quick job to sync subs for this in time? (Those could come later if need be.)
JEDIT: phat fingers
I agree about the Snoke music, but understand the reasons against it. shrugs
For my money:
https://vimeo.com/245846172
password: old
Incredible; very exciting. Thanks again, Ridley.
FanTASTIC! That’s unbelievably flawless work. It’s almost a shame, since anyone who would break apart this edit to look for seams would never imagine the deleted scene was not originally supplied in full 5.1.
Here’s a slightly altered version. What the scene really needs is for the last shot to last two seconds longer. I have to run at the moment, but I imagine trying to reverse the shot at the end would be tacky.
https://vimeo.com/245554058
password: jaw
Here’s an attempt using DominicCobb’s suggestion for the music:
https://vimeo.com/245523581
password: pickle
Thanks! I’ve really enjoyed how much of a collaboration this project has been, working toward a tightly focused idea. I’ve just been the MC.
Yes, that’s everything I have on my list that I still need. I’d also like to get this out ahead of TLJ. Ideally, it’d be the final version, but it’d be foolish to say that until seeing what TLJ provides us. (I know my life will be radically different after my wife and I have our first child in February.)
I’d say for the Snoke scene, the only thing we’d need is to have the first shot, made to look like Hux is standing there rather than Ren. (If possible; I don’t know how you pull off graphical wizardry like this.) I will try out DominicCobb’s idea for the music for this scene either tomorrow or Saturday.
Once all the ingredients are present, I will hustle to get it put together and encoded.
Not at all! But I wouldn’t worry about Ackbar unless we abandon the brief Snoke scene.
Though it wouldn’t be in the edit if I were forced to export what I’ve got right now at gunpoint, here’s what the Ackbar line looks like at this stage:
https://vimeo.com/245133834
password: allahu