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ZkinandBonez said:

So I just got a Youtube ad for HBO Nordic about showing the OT and PT films and I noticed that the colours on the OT clips looked quite normal. I haven’t actually watched the official blu-ray version, but aren’t ANH pretty weird-looking colour-wise? In the Despecialized Edition comparison video ANH has a purple hue to it. The same clip of Leia talking to Vader on the Tantive IV that was used for the comparison was in this promo/trailer and it looked quite normal. There was a shot at the end showing the DS explosion with the Praxis effect, so they were obviously SE clips (not that I expected anything else). So has there been an “improved” release of the SE OT recently or am I just imagining things?

That comparison video makes the BluRays look worse than they actually are, and I can’t remember the technical mistake that made it that way. Unfortunate.

DrDre said:

TV’s Frink said:

DrDre said:

Does it not diminish the OT, if the ST continues to recycle some of the OT’s best moments

Only if you allow it to, my friend, only if you allow it to. 😉

I suppose you’re right. As the famous Inspector Clouseau said to his former boss Dreyfus:

“Out with the bad, in with the good!”

Pervert.

Nice! Thanks for creating and sharing these. 😃

To be fair, that was just for purposes of helping him get into character.

I’m having a hard time finding characters I would actively be opposed to dying in XI. If they want to kill off any and everyone, I say go for it, new and old alike.

As Luke fades away, add Star Trek transporter effect. Is there any footage available of Mark Hamill in a Star Trek setting?

Also, could Kylo Ren yell, “No… NOOOooOooooOO” as he kills Snoke?

FWIW, here’s my current intended cutlist for an edit of THE LAST JEDI. Of course, any of these may or may not be feasible once I actually have the ripped film to address in a NLE.

• Reign in the SNL opening with Poe and Hux.

• Remove or trim BB8’s wack-a-mole repairs (as part of broader effort to remove ‘Droids’ stuff, just like in AOTC and ROTS)

• Only because I’d already be editing the film at this point and not because this is in any way called for, try to have the first scene with Luke appear overcast as TFA was. Whatever filter used to achieve this could be gradually faded out over the course of the sequence.

• Somehow remove Maz’s Battlefront Skype call, if at all possible.

• Possibly replace ignition sound of Anakin’s lightsaber. (I do not recall whether this is needed, and a close re-listen to TFA showed me that they appear to have blended the original ignition sound with a new sound, which I can accept. If that’s the case in TLJ, that’ll work. If not, I plan to replace the ignition sound with that from TFA. I do, however, recall the quick red-guard headshot sound effect as being a non-ignition sound effect, which I will leave alone because I understand why its like that.)

• Keep the scene with Chewie about to eat a porg, though remove the final porg giving him the sad eyes.

• If deleted scenes make this possible, give Rey her promised third lesson from Luke.

• Undecided on removing the entire horse chase. If so, simply have Finn and Rose follow DJ out of the cell and we will revisit them later already in hyperspace. If the horse chase stays, perhaps cut away from DJ after he asks BB8, “Did you do this?” in order to remove more ‘Droids’ stuff. If the horse chase stays, either remove the final scene with broom boy, or else just remove the closeup with the ring.

• Remove BB8 commandeering an AT-ST, and ensuing jog toward an escape shuttle.

• Remove Poe’s “big ass door.” Hopefully that shot is static, so a simple crossfade or similar trickery will make it work, saying “Let’s just hope that door holds out,” or whatever the exact line is.

• Similarly, remove Finn’s unnecessary line about the battering ram being “old Death Star tech.” (Let’s never reference the Death Star in another ‘saga’ film ever again.)

• I’ll ask anyone here who is willing, to stabilize the crate Luke sits down on while talking with Leia. The filmmakers bothered to not have him physically interact with the ground, or make walking foley sounds, so this seems like a small but positive change to make. (You just gotta do stuff like this while you’ve got everything cracked open.)

• Remove the porg smacking against the Falcon window.

• Possibly remove the dice from the end. I guess it’s there to make you think Luke is physically present, then Leia leaves them behind, and then they disappear? I don’t know. It was one last thing to not understand in the movie. (Just kidding; the Jedi texts make a split second cameo after this point. Speaking of them, I won’t remove them because I’m sure they’ll play a role in XI, and people will ask how Rey has them just like people ask where 3PO’s red arm went in VIII.)

Unfortunately, I don’t really have any forthcoming ideas for real creativity aside from just removing things. I’m sure ideas will float up to our collective consciousness in time.

Isitchristmas.com

When I hear people saying that TLJ sets up future Star Wars films to go off in bold, new directions… I remember that there’s only one film left.
I mean, obviously they’ll make Episodes X, XI, and XII eventually. But by that point they could have been different in these ways anyway.

Anakin Starkiller said:

End with “Shut that door.” It’s Mark Hamill saying it after all. Of course, do that only after showing the infamous conclusion of that scene from TLJ.

Well. Certainly glad for that side investigation.

DominicCobb said:

it’s the second time we heard that track in the film (trying to reduce this kind of repetitive tracking), and second because this is the birth of Vader - let’s hear his march.

I love that I don’t know this, but when does the track appear earlier in ROTS?

As the Starkiller base hologram is shown at the rebel is briefing, we hear Luke from offscreen saying, “It’s so much bigger.” Characters look around in awkward silence for a moment.

xxtelecine 7xx said:

My point is episode 2 and 3 were shot in 4K digital. So it was released in 4K in the theaters at the time. If the theater did not support 4K projection digital it was converted 35mm film. So yes we have 1080p now for home video, but they can release a 4K version.

That’s simply not true.

I think I would’ve preferred it if he had not gotten back upright. I’d more easily have believed he was dying of exhaustion. He could still see the sunset/sunrise.

Eh, ‘recharged’ matches lip sync a little better and is less of a deviation from the theatrical. I do like that line better were his mouth out of frame.

Incredible. Thank you for giving us a peak behind the curtain.

Pair this thread with the ‘dumb ideas’ thread that doesn’t exist.

Thanks, Ridley. We’ll see what happens before that point. I have a feeling it’ll be what we need.

We sure better get a generous helping of Luke.
He could just be making Dad jokes the whole time and I’d love it.

TLJ is a film of high highs and low lows, uneven and frustrating. Even the highs are meant to be challenging to accept, so we end up with a mixture of intentionally difficult to accept and clunky stuff which is hard to accept.

“We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close!”

Well said. Some of what RJ dismisses from TFA wasn’t that great, but it doesn’t feel right to just toss them.

It’s just like the ‘tell a story’ game. A little more awkward now that it’s a three-turn, two-player game.

Player 1: “Once upon a time there was a man named Frank with a dog he loved to take hunting in his big red pickup truck.”

Player 2: “Until one day when he decided he didn’t like any of those things anymore and tried to climb a mountain with a cat he met along the way, and the dog died.”

How does Player 1 finish things out? “Frank then went back to his truck and the cat joined him at his house and… they split a can of tuna while watching a sunset.”?

I very much agree with DrDre about Snoke. It seems the best way to follow his character up after TFA while ‘subverting’ it as TLJ just loves to do would be to make him into a poser as Kylo was set up to be. That’d have been perfect. The FO was distinct from the Empire because they were a shitty derivative of them, much like in real life. Let Snoke fit in with that, especially since all we’d seen was a hologram.
Let the FO be a threat due to their radicalized fringe extremism rather than taking over the whole galaxy over the course of a week or so.
I’m sure RJ had good intentions while writing the story and script, but the finished film in isolation would imply to me that he was just not interested in carrying on the themes and setups the previous film gave him to work with.

And any fan edits that use their deleted scenes wouldn’t be either, since those are sourced from DVD.
TPM could be given a 4K treatment since it was shot on 35mm.

The scene I’m most hoping to remove from the film is Maz’s video game cutscene. It raises unhelpful questions, it’s extremely cartoony (or video gamey), and contributes to the uneven tone of the movie.
I’m not sure how it’d be done, due to the plot direction it contains. But that was the worst scene in the film.

The whole time I am involved in fan editing this movie, whether I end up doing an edit myself or just contributing here, I’m going to hear Kylo Ren berating me.
“You’re still HOLDING ON.”

A better recording of the second voice would be ideal, so I suppose we will see what the interim brings before he’d be able to record under better conditions. 😃