Hal 9000

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When I hear people saying that TLJ sets up future Star Wars films to go off in bold, new directions… I remember that there’s only one film left.
I mean, obviously they’ll make Episodes X, XI, and XII eventually. But by that point they could have been different in these ways anyway.

Anakin Starkiller said:

End with “Shut that door.” It’s Mark Hamill saying it after all. Of course, do that only after showing the infamous conclusion of that scene from TLJ.

Well. Certainly glad for that side investigation.

DominicCobb said:

it’s the second time we heard that track in the film (trying to reduce this kind of repetitive tracking), and second because this is the birth of Vader - let’s hear his march.

I love that I don’t know this, but when does the track appear earlier in ROTS?

As the Starkiller base hologram is shown at the rebel is briefing, we hear Luke from offscreen saying, “It’s so much bigger.” Characters look around in awkward silence for a moment.

xxtelecine 7xx said:

My point is episode 2 and 3 were shot in 4K digital. So it was released in 4K in the theaters at the time. If the theater did not support 4K projection digital it was converted 35mm film. So yes we have 1080p now for home video, but they can release a 4K version.

That’s simply not true.

I think I would’ve preferred it if he had not gotten back upright. I’d more easily have believed he was dying of exhaustion. He could still see the sunset/sunrise.

Eh, ‘recharged’ matches lip sync a little better and is less of a deviation from the theatrical. I do like that line better were his mouth out of frame.

Incredible. Thank you for giving us a peak behind the curtain.

Pair this thread with the ‘dumb ideas’ thread that doesn’t exist.

Thanks, Ridley. We’ll see what happens before that point. I have a feeling it’ll be what we need.

We sure better get a generous helping of Luke.
He could just be making Dad jokes the whole time and I’d love it.

TLJ is a film of high highs and low lows, uneven and frustrating. Even the highs are meant to be challenging to accept, so we end up with a mixture of intentionally difficult to accept and clunky stuff which is hard to accept.

“We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close!”

Well said. Some of what RJ dismisses from TFA wasn’t that great, but it doesn’t feel right to just toss them.

It’s just like the ‘tell a story’ game. A little more awkward now that it’s a three-turn, two-player game.

Player 1: “Once upon a time there was a man named Frank with a dog he loved to take hunting in his big red pickup truck.”

Player 2: “Until one day when he decided he didn’t like any of those things anymore and tried to climb a mountain with a cat he met along the way, and the dog died.”

How does Player 1 finish things out? “Frank then went back to his truck and the cat joined him at his house and… they split a can of tuna while watching a sunset.”?

I very much agree with DrDre about Snoke. It seems the best way to follow his character up after TFA while ‘subverting’ it as TLJ just loves to do would be to make him into a poser as Kylo was set up to be. That’d have been perfect. The FO was distinct from the Empire because they were a shitty derivative of them, much like in real life. Let Snoke fit in with that, especially since all we’d seen was a hologram.
Let the FO be a threat due to their radicalized fringe extremism rather than taking over the whole galaxy over the course of a week or so.
I’m sure RJ had good intentions while writing the story and script, but the finished film in isolation would imply to me that he was just not interested in carrying on the themes and setups the previous film gave him to work with.

And any fan edits that use their deleted scenes wouldn’t be either, since those are sourced from DVD.
TPM could be given a 4K treatment since it was shot on 35mm.

The scene I’m most hoping to remove from the film is Maz’s video game cutscene. It raises unhelpful questions, it’s extremely cartoony (or video gamey), and contributes to the uneven tone of the movie.
I’m not sure how it’d be done, due to the plot direction it contains. But that was the worst scene in the film.

The whole time I am involved in fan editing this movie, whether I end up doing an edit myself or just contributing here, I’m going to hear Kylo Ren berating me.
“You’re still HOLDING ON.”

A better recording of the second voice would be ideal, so I suppose we will see what the interim brings before he’d be able to record under better conditions. 😃

Fair enough, and that explanation makes sense. I’m not expecting to get my two other submissions until sometime next week. If we haven’t already gotten something in the bag by the time you’d have access to good equipment, perhaps you could record again at that time?

I didn’t have these problems with LABYRINTH OF EVIL because my voice was just coming out of a little robot.

Good to see they let Sam Jackson step outside and stretch his head.

Yeah, I think you’re right. It’s not quite apples to apples, as the second clip already had a slight pitch reduction and reverb applied. I do like the original clip he sent me as well.

AbramPT said:

Just PM’d Hal eight new takes for “weapon fully recharged…” I had to do them super quickly, but hopefully one of them is up to snuff for you guys as Christmas is just around the corner and I won’t really have time to record anything more for a week and a half.

Here’s the best one, according to me, baked into the scene. It seems less fullbodied than the original line, so I wonder if a better recording setup would improve it. It doesn’t sound like it was recorded the same way as the rest of the movie. Good voice, but it sounds hollow when put in place.

https://vimeo.com/248542914
password: voice

And unfortunately, I cannot advise about authoring to disc. Compressor gives me BR streams and I use mkvtoolkit to mux.

Thanks for taking the time to do another set of recordings, as I think that’s going to work well. We may just decide to let the others know not to bother!
I’d suggest delivering the line a few times so I can have a few options.

And V2.1 should be available as a large BR-compliant mkv with PCM audio (I’ll try to use ChainsawAsh’s method to make it work; worst case the lossless audio will be available separately), a 720p mp4, a DVD5, and a less than 1GB version for those who’d need it.

But, later Maz tells Rey “Han told [her]” about how she wants to remain on Jakku. The movie just didn’t want us to watch Han tell Maz what we already know.

^ I won’t be doing that. I think TFA reads perfectly reasonably with that (lack of) revelation in mind. Going by TFA alone, I think the logical conclusion is that she is, at the very least, not related to any of the other important characters. All Han would have told Maz is just that she joined up with them and is wanting to stay on Jakku because of her family.
I do feel that TLJ is deeply incongruous with TFA, but oddly enough the Rey thing isn’t really why.