Yeah, that idea wouldn’t play out well at all IMHO. I’d prefer Luke dramatically tossing the saber somewhat off to the side ala “Never… I’ll never turn to the dark side” over the deadpan beat we have in the movie. I think it’s important that he toss the saber, though. Given no recourse, it has to stay as is. I didn’t hate the moment, at least not the first viewing.
I re-watch TFA restructured so often, that I am getting really excited for the finished product for this film. I left a spot for it in the box set I am making. Hal, your edits are simply the best.
That’s wonderful! If I had much of a physical media collection I’d have to put something like that together for myself as well. Very fulfilling to see something so concrete come out of all this stuff.
I was fortunate enough to be able to sit down and vet everything I’ve done so far. I am currently rendering out a “golden master” to be used for sync for Mala. I don’t think anything is different from the prior workprint that would affect sync, though I could be wrong. Better to render a fresh encode just in case. Poppasketti was kind enough to remove a few more white specks from deleted scene footage, and I made several small audio tweaks and other things like that. Only thing left is to apply DrDre’s LUT, which I still haven’t found a good solution for. Might be possible to render out my entire project to ProRes, and apply it using FCPX. That’ll be a headache for another time.
There will always be, just like with the prequels, cool new ideas introduced as time goes on. However, my goal here is just to make a somewhat conservative edit to get the film into a more palatable state, which to my mind required a more radical approach than with TFA. In that spirit, I hope not to do a V2 in the future. You never know, though. But, unlike with TFA:R V1, I’m actually happy with this one and feel I’ve accomplished (enough of) what I set out to do.
Yes, that’s the order.
I think that’s all correct, Mala, thank you!
I did try removing the “we’re taking heavy losses,” but it seemed just a little ‘off’ merging the two sequences before and after. The music and composition is based on having a brief cutaway. It doesn’t bother me at all, and it’s not worth cutting if it introduces even a slight jarr. shrugs 😦
Thank you for posting an update for us! I feel good knowing the relevant people have your work to hold their feet to the fire. This is the most encouraging SW-related news I’ve heard in some time.
Having done a copycat job of darthrush’s ladder kick removal, I think I’m about ready to render out a ‘sync-locked’ version for Mala to work with.
Does anyone have anything else to toss out here?
From Reddit:
I thought this video was relevant to the goals of this edit: https://youtu.be/GYN2Lp9oHMk
Good watch. Would have sold me on the ‘Luke has a Moment’ + ‘Finn and Poe’ deleted scene combo if I weren’t already. 😃
I’m also very much looking forward to it. Out of all the changes listed, the only thing I’d suggest doing differently is to let the “reveal” of Kylo Ren’s parentage occurs when Han meets Leia and says, “Leia, I saw our son.”
It keeps the drama present in the original just in time for it to come into play, holding out mystery up to that point, and makes for a cooler moment of revelation.
Could you post a clip or description of your first Snoke scene? It might be super short if you are removing both the Starkiller planning AND the Solo reveal.
I doubt the deleted scene trend anything to do with fan editing. Probably more that bonus material had become deemphasized the the big ticket item isn’t a super dvd bundle anymore.
I can think of two ignitions of the saber in that environment: the one which kills Snoke, and the super quick one Kylo used to kill the last guard.
The first I recall as being at least not obviously wrong, and the second being artistic license done deliberately for understandable reasons. I’ll have to check again and make sure, though, about the first.
You can easily crop it out, or apply a widescreen matte overtop.
No, for reasons stated earlier in the thread. The Caretaker raiding scene has uncompleted effects, as many of the deleted scenes unfortunately do. Besides, as much as I enjoy the scene, I agree with RJ’s reasoning for cutting it; Luke and Rey are about to come around to the same page when suddenly things explode. Reinstating that scene loses that aspect. To me it is more elegant and helpful to the movie overall to cut the Caretakers altogether.
The ending scene with the kids stays, as it is way too abrupt to end after the Falcon. Star Wars films always have a scene free of (English) dialogue to close things out. It is thematically very relevant, given the spark of hope always being talked about.
See “Labyrinth Of Evil,” my fan edit of Episode III. Thread is in this forum, perhaps a page or two deep at this point.
Here’s a clip from what ended up the final version, without sound. Sir Ridley did the color correction and inserted a little Easter egg. Pay special attention to her neck:
https://vimeo.com/258836776
I dubbed the medical droid to now deliver the news, “She has sustained severe injuries. I cannot say how long she might last. We are preparing to deliver the babies…”
This particular edit was driven by marrying two ideas:
These two ideas dovetail well! If you’re still planning to execute this idea yourself in a complete edit, I would suggest watching my edit, perhaps with my audio commentary enabled. If you need help finding a copy, PM me. But, your Boleyn idea was stellar.
I’m certainly intrigued to see what you produce!
I obviously made use of your Boleyn idea, taking after Q2. I regret not being able to use finished versions of your Qui-Gon score for his mention in ROTS and blended rendition of the Imperial March with ANH’s Imperial theme as Anakin marches on the Jedi Temple.
Fair enough. 😃
Thanks for posting a clip. Probably not today, but I’ll see if I can follow suit.
Very interesting analysis by Film Crit Hulk, talking a bit about the PT (mostly Ep3) and Ep7.
I agree with this completely.
I think the straight cut has a punch to it that a wipe would not. Plus, a wipe would eat up frames from both shots, making it more abrupt when you would expect a wipe when something is not so abrupt.
Doesn’t hurt to toss out ideas, though!
Is it really worthwhile if it only removes one kick? I can’t do any editing this morning, but I can give it another look with that in mind.
Darthrush is right that there’s not a forthcoming good way to have Hux react, though that would be ideal. I do think that if the scene were as it is in his clip theatrically, no one would have batted an eye.
And yes, I am planning on leaving the crawl alone. I don’t have any big ideas for how to improve it, so changing it would only be for the sake of changing it.
I’m glad you mentioned it, though. Worth considering, even if the gains of cutting it are greater.
Also, in order to reinstate the shot of Finn’s speeder’s guns from melting, I would have to reinstate the majority of the part of the sequence which was cut. Therefore, the lack of gun melting is going to have to be part of the package, weighed as such.
I’m not able to do better with this idea than Darthrush, so consider his clip my candidate clip as well:
Per the suggestion of many to revisit my removal of Snoke throwing Hux around after the Resistance escapes, here is a new clip which restores one more line of dialogue before we cut back to the Resistance.
I must say that I really like how this flows after getting used to it. I tried including one more shot of Hux at the end but it just didn’t fit.
I’ll have to sit down and see which works better.
In other news I can’t get the musical transitions to sound good to my ears while working on removing Paige kicking the ladder more than three times. It’s such a little thing, and I don’t really mind it, so I’m afraid this’ll be one to leave as it in the end.
Because I don’t mind spoilers for this one. It’ll probably be a while before I’ll see it since money is tight.
lol, what the HELL is Darth Maul doing in a young Han Solo movie? I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I imagine that it is absurd as it sounds.
