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#1260166
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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released)
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Well, I’d love to get started on either ANH or ROTJ soon, since after a few months I won’t be able to do much at a time, but I need a primary source for color correction.
I’m still hoping to get ahold of Adywan’s color corrected ANH, and I actually don’t know of any similar thing for ROTJ aside from the one Adywan is currently working on. Time is very much of the essence, or it’ll have to wait until sometime after IX, if at all. I guess we’ll have to see.

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#1259923
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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released)
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ZaneFlare92 said:

My small suggestion is adding thruster efx to the tie fighter chasing Luke. “I can’t shake him !” IDK why no one at Industrial Light and Magic or Lucas let that go by. The Original shot had the thruster light showed on the back of the tie. Does that sound like a plausible idea to be done ?

If someone would care to supply this change, I certainly wouldn’t mind using it. Can’t say I ever noticed that one. You learn something new every day, even about Star Wars.

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#1259815
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Kerr's 'Lord Of The Rings' Fan Edits, Extended Editions by Hal9000/Sharkey (Released)
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Right. Kerr’s unreleased edits are the ‘theatrical editions’ to these customized ‘extended editions.’ I put these together over a year ago and had been waiting for Kerr to release the edits. Since that may not happen for a while yet we decided to let these out in the meantime since they’ve been ready.

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#1259805
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Kerr's 'Lord Of The Rings' Fan Edits, Extended Editions by Hal9000/Sharkey (Released)
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Hal9000, or “Sharkey,” here.

(At the time of this writing, December 2018, Kerr has yet to release his LOTR fan edits. He has, however, allowed me to publish these ‘Extended Editions’ rather than wait for his definitive versions to be released. You aren’t missing anything; his regular edits have not yet been released and may not for some time. But since I’ve been sitting on these fully finished tweaked versions, they are being released now as “stewards” of his proper edits more in the vein of the theatrical editions.

I apologize that I do not have changelogs for Kerr’s forthcoming edits themselves, and only for my modifications of them. Perhaps when Kerr reads this he can provide these for inclusion. I will NOT be adding these to IFDB, since that will be up to Kerr to do when he is ready. These are merely alternative cuts of his project.)


This is a modified version of Kerr’s fan edits of the Lord of the Rings film trilogy, somewhat analogous to the ‘Extended Editions’ of the original films. I have taken Kerr’s edits, and folded back into them bits and pieces of the films, mostly from the Extended Editions. Thus, I consider this an extended version of his edit, rather than something new.

Kerr’s edits feature two audio tracks, the primary of which contains numerous musical alterations. I have used the second audio track by default, and only included a handful of his musical alterations where I felt they made sense and felt “right” to me. In the cutlist below, I list musical alterations Kerr made that I used for this extended version, rather than the other way around.

As part of the process, I painstakingly “remastered” the video source, plugging in the original BluRay footage in all but a handful of shots and scenes. This was done to ensure the maximum possible picture quality and avoiding a very slight generational loss. As such, the color timing throughout is not necessarily as Kerr intended. Some shots are left un-remastered, being either sourced from the theatrical cuts (and therefore not at my disposal) or featuring significant color differences that warranted being left as they were. All Elvish subtitles have been redone, save for those that occur over footage only contained in the theatrical cut, made to match Kerr’s formatting.

It’s been wonderful collaborating on this over the course of some 6 or 7 years, and I feel Kerr has pulled off an incredible set of edits, far greater than I could have hoped for if left to my own devices.


Changes from Kerr’s original edit:

Fellowship of the Ring:

  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to add Gondor theme during Last Alliance battle
  • Reinstated EE death of Isildur
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to add EE background music for Gandalf’s introduction
  • Reinstated EE Frodo’s dialogue about Strider with Merry
  • Reinstated EE Boromir’s dream speech and Gandalf’s black speed at Council of Elrond
  • New disc break with Intermission title card and preliminary ‘Fellowship’ theme from earlier in the film
  • Reinstated EE Gilraen’s memorial
  • Reinstated EE Legoas specifying the nature of Gandalf’s demise, and Galadriel consoling Gimli
  • Reinstated EE Sam’s verse about Gandalf’s fireworks
  • Reinstated original audio of Galadriel’s “In place of a dark lord…” speech
  • Reinstated EE gifts of Galadriel scene in full
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to use Gondor theme for the Argonath scene
  • Reinstated EE Boromir and Aragorn’s debate scene at night by the River
  • Reinstated EE Aragorn’s line, “They will look to his coming from the white tower, but he will not return.”

The Two Towers:

  • Reinstated EE Frodo and Sam using the Elven rope
  • Reinstated EE Gollum debating whether to help Frodo and Sam
  • Reinstated EE Uruks giving Merry Orc-draught
  • Reinstated EE countrymen swearing fealty to Saruman
  • Reinstated EE Frodo and Gollum’s conversation in the Dead Marshes
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to use different music for the “Wraiths on Wings” scene
  • Reinstated EE Gandalf’s line about how he “is” Saruman, in a way
  • Reinstated EE Éowyn’s dirge for Theodred
  • Reinstated EE Faramir’s speech regarding the fallen soldier
  • New disc break with Intermission title card and triumphant Rohan theme from earlier in the film
  • Reinstated EE Éowyn learning about Aragorn over stew
  • Reinstated EE Faramir’s vision of coming across Boromir’s funeral boat
  • Reinstated EE Treebeard’s full line, including, “…tree, root, and twig”

Return of the King:

  • Reinstated dialogue between Sméagol and Déagol prior to their fight, and EE longer strangling
  • Reinstated EE dialogue between Merry and Aragorn as Gandalf and Pippin ride from Edoras
  • Reinstated a line or two Kerr cut from Gandalf and Faramir’s conversation about seeing Frodo and Sam in Ithilien
  • Reinstated EE additional dialogue between Pippin and Denethor while offering his service
  • Reinstated EE dialogue from Eomer about the horrors of battle
  • Used different translation for subtitles as Elrond and Aragorn quote Gilraen, and added ellipses to imply they are reciting something known
  • Reinstated EE dialogue from Aragorn to Éowyn as he prepares to leave the Rohirrim
  • Reinstated EE introduction of Grond
  • New disc break with Intermission title card and melancholy Gondor theme from two places earlier in the trilogy
  • Reinstated EE Legolas reciting a verse while heading toward the Paths of the Dead
  • Reinstated EE dialogue from Denethor as he heads to the tombs
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to add music to Gandalf’s confrontation with the Witch-King
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to add snippet when the Rohirrim collide with the Uruk ranks
  • Reinstated Éowyn’s cry as she stabs the Witch-King in the face, that Kerr had removed
  • Reinstated EE orc skirmishes prior to Sam entering the tower of Cirith Ungol
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to add intro and choir for the “For Frodo” scene
  • Used Kerr’s altered audio to add instruments for the “Don’t you let go” scene
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#1259239
Topic
The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released)
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With my V2 of my TLJ:L project and TFA:R V3 being nearly ready to go, I would like to turn my attention to this project, starting with ANH.

Does anyone have a copy of Adywan’s color corrected version of ANH he put out in September? I suspect that will be the best place to start. I don’t know what else I may need until I get started, though I suspect it’ll be a little easier than ROTJ, which I may need some help with the Sarlacc sequence for.

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#1259150
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The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
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V2 is complete, and should be appearing in the usual places within the next several hours. Thanks again to all involved; I couldn’t have done this alone. I’m very happy with the results, especially after giving things another pass after a total of a year has passed since beginning to chew on this film. Thanks to your contributions, I feel that if this were beamed to a theater a year ago on opening night, it would’ve done just fine.
And if you like what you see here but wish more was done, poppasketti’s edit is pretty kickass, too. I like the pairing; we’ve both borrowed from and contributed a fair amount to the other.

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#1258478
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Fang Zei said:

Did I miss this ghost Hayden rumor earlier when I was avoiding this thread for the first thirty or so pages, or is that just pure speculation on your part?

No, just my own speculation. I don’t think it would necessarily be a dig at the OOT or a validation of the 2004 version of ROTJ at all. Sebastian Shaw is long gone, and Hayden is someone who played Anakin. It’d maybe be a little silly to make him up to appear like Shaw, but I’d be okay with just not trying to pass him off as 23.

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#1258442
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released)
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For the record, in my upcoming V2 I identified the cause of that nasty artifacting, so it’s not just from a generational loss.

I used a single color correction setting across the board, and it evidently was very harsh on dark scenes. For V2, I completely left the blacks alone, and only slightly offset the mids and highlights. It’s a bit more yellow than V1, but still a bit less so than the raw BluRay. These settings produce video which seems not to suffer appreciable degradation from the source material. I’m not sure if something was deficient of TLJ’s BluRay. A cynical part of me wonders if it was anemic so as to make the 4K version look better by comparison.

Regardless, it sounds like both edits will be looking as good as possible after sorting this out. Poppa, did you do any color correction at all for yours?

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#1258364
Topic
Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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Without allowing for any repeats…

TPM - Pernilla August as Schmi Skywalker
AOTC - Christopher Lee as Count Dooku
ROTS - Ian McDiarmis as Emperor Sheev ‘Darth Sidious’ Frank Palpatine
ANH - Alec Guiness as Ben Kenobi
ESB - Frank Oz as Yoda
ROTJ - Sebastian Shaw as Anakin Skywalker (because McDiarmid was already picked)
TFA - Harrison Ford as Han Solo
TLJ - Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker (Carrie Fischer honorable mention)

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#1258363
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I’m just hoping the scope of the conclusion will feel like it caps off the entirety of the saga. I’m okay with seeing ghost Hayden yuckin’ it up with Luke in the interest of that. Preferably not attempting to look young, with the long locks. Doesn’t have to be made up to look old necessarily, though.

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#1258281
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The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
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^ Mala, thanks for the reminder about those suggestions. I will continue to keep removed Kylo’s mention that Rey’s parents are dead and buried. It seems like the gist of the ‘revelation’ is that Rey is finally admitting to herself what she already know to be true, in an annoyingly similar way as in Maz’s basement in TFA: her parents abandoned her and are gone for good. It seems not only unnecessary to depict them as dead, but slightly incongruous to the vision in TFA in which they are clearly leaving Jakku after dumping her there. Why would they be buried there? Also, that particular detail is the only thing that Rey would presumably not have already known, and it may be more effective to remain purely in the realm of Rey’s suppressed knowledge. That’s probably how Kylo Ren acquired the information anyway: from their mental battle in TFA.

Here’s a mockup of your ring idea. I’m not sure about it, though. Now, I imagine the question would become either, “How’d that boy get that ring?” or “Is that boy connected to Holdo somehow?” But I would like feedback from others about this one. If these are supposed to be Holdo’s hands, they are dirty and missing at least one ring.

https://vimeo.com/304168187
password: fanedit

DZ-330, no, I am not planning to remove Rose saving Finn. Other than reinstating Finn’s full attack run, it’ll remain as in V1.