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That’s interesting. I’ll have to check that out!

I don’t think Obi-Wan’s line is improved by removing Anakin’s. Sorry; I don’t see myself doing that. Thanks, though, for suggesting it.

I don’t understand; what was changed there?

I suppose being introduced to the oppressed kids at that point in the movie along with what would become a sentiment of “I wish I could do something about this place but we have our mission” would make the film’s epilogue more inspiring.
Finn and Rose can’t do everything everywhere there’s trouble, but YOU can. Eh?

I will mull this over, and maybe by the time I get my revisions of 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 out the door I can make a quick stop at TLJ again. But probably not until after 9 is out, in case anything about it has influence over editing TLJ.

I wonder what meaning people would have made out of TLJ:L V2 if it were what they had seen in the theater. I imagine people would respond to people who would say Finn’s arc doesn’t make sense by pointing out how Rose and DJ represent two paths he could go down.

In the first Canto Bight scene he hears from Rose that the First Order raped and executed her family or whatever, but he already knew they were bad. Then he learns about third party war profiteering, which DJ teaches him again later anyway. Then, he learns that the wealthy locals are oppressive and maybe wishes he could do something about it, but doesn’t directly.

And… I guess his arc seems to be about the same with or without that scene. All the later sequence does is give some wealthy people an insurance payout.

I know it’s impossible to really do, but I wonder what the argument and thoughts would have been if this is what the movie was.

What would you have done if you could have? I’ve got some stuff to do fan editing wise with the other movies, so my attention wouldn’t come around to TLJ for a while in any event, but I’m open to ideas about this.
At present this seems like something people in the alternate universe would have said, “These deleted sequences would have really fleshed out the character of Finn but they aren’t very good and would have messed up the pacing.”

Truth be told, while I want any of my edits to be watchable as films, I… I don’t really care about Finn. He just doesn’t seem believable for what he’s set up to be, I guess.

Just thinking out loud, but I guess one could reinstate the first Canto Bight sequence as it was and still remove the fathier sequence. We would see the Cinderella kids, and later we would just assume the broom boy always had a rebel alliance ring. It might actually give Finn more of a motivation to see evil and not really be able to do anything about it directly, y’know?

Either way, I’m glad you enjoyed the edit for the most part. Are there any edits at present that you’ve found you enjoy as a more solid film overall?

nightstalkerpoet said:

Replace the cries of agony from the Droid sucked through the pod turbine with droid dying sounds for consistency.

😦

Just kidding. Wow, thanks for the kind words. I’m glad this one finally seems to feel like a viable thing to have projected to our hypothetical unsuspecting time travel audience. You’re list simultaneously feels like potential improvements without feeling like I should regret anything. Sounds perfect for you going forward and making changes of your own.

More as a curiosity than something I’d actually want to see/hear, I wonder what sort of things could be done to the OT’s dialogue to better mesh with the prequels.

A few things come to mind:

• Changing Obi-Wan’s line to “[I] wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn’t allow it.”

• “…[a] Jedi Master who instructed me.”

I wonder what other subtle tweaks one could implement. Don’t worry, I’m not thinking of doing anything like this for this project!

To me, anything other than things called “Star Wars Episode _” will always be EU.

Thanks for saying that, and I feel relieved to have a second set of eyes across the entire film to spot any glitches. (And there were a few before I encoded everything a second time! There’s always something.)

I’m okay with the apples critique, and it’s fair. Honestly, that was me throwing a bone to my 9 year old self who liked it. And, I suppose, a bone to my two very young boys when they’re old enough.

Myspleen is rejecting my uploads with a cryptic error message. I’ve seen it before but all I have left is to just try again later. COD V6 is available in the other usual places, though.

No, no problem there at all! 😃

I didn’t want to emphasize it here, but yes, once I get them into myspleen, I’ll put them there, too.

OP has now been updated to reflect the new changes, and I will update the IFDB listing when I can, hopefully tonight. The Google Drive is now current for COD, and you can see the folders’ modified dates. Next will be Myspleen, and then clearing room to be able to crack into TAS.

V6 exists, and is on its way up into the Google Drive. It should be appearing later on the 'Spleen, too.

PM sent. And yes, we don’t endanger ourselves by posting direct links.

I recall hearing that Ben Burtt was planning to use the Vader sound at the end of episode two, but decided against it when the musical score at the end seems to jar with it. I think it fits at the end of episode one, though, because we just finish out Anakin’s theme at the end.

I apologize if some of my posts have been terse lately. Most of the time, the reality is that I only have one free hand to punch keys with. I appreciate the fervent discussion very much, because it makes for the best possible, most informed final product. I am also tossing around the droid factory in my head, but have no intention at all to reinstate the garage scene.

^ lol @ a quick transition to being executed.
Honestly, even the L8wrtr version of the scene has some awkward audio, with the music hopping back and forth. It’ll probably come down to whether I can pull off something better, and so I’ll try once I’ve cleared room to get Ep2 ready once pushing any one in-progress edit out the door (4, 5, 1, or 3!)

While I could add the droid analysis deleted scene, it’d be another low resolution scene, and it doesn’t really add anything. I like that we’ll be getting back Obi-Wan’s dismissive line about droids, which sort of helps explain him not remembering R2 or 3PO in ANH.

Oh, and the kids transition audio is the part where originally their kiss was interrupted. The following establishing shot has a single sort of high note to set a tone of intrigue, and I think having the full love theme fade over it would be jarring. At least what feels slightly off is original to the movie, but I know it’s not quite perfect. I like to think it speaks to the kiss being ominous.

Anakin’s confession is the heart of that scene; it seems pointless to me to reinstate part of it and leave that out.

I’m no fan of the droid factory sequence, but I can see the continuity drive for it at least. And I’m NOT committed to it as of yet. I still think it works reasonably well to suppose Anakin and Padme go all in for diplomacy after finding the only door they could.

Guys, I did an AOTC edit in 2004, and so I have a long history of kicking the droid factory to the curb. Perhaps I best honor the textual lineage of this and all prequel edits by doing so now.

Or maybe I should go to bed and consider more than 5 hour sleep lucky.

I meant that I may use it, but that were it not an option to keep the droids out of it, I would not have reinstated it and allowed it to be a little fan-edity in order to keep the nonsense cleanly out.

I spoke about that in my commentary, and that’s why I don’t care for it.

And I’m not sure it’s advisable to adjust that one single line since we don’t have any of the others to use.
Shrugs

Oh, thank you for posting the clip of the droid factory scene; that’s very helpful.

I think that would help sell this as a polished finished product, only because without it there is something missing that you would expect a film to have to address the apparent meekness with which Anakin walks into death. I think the scene is unnecessary, save for the sheer fact that I don’t have any usable footage which could serve in that capacity.

I am redownloading L8wrtr’s edit, because if I remember correctly he has the droids remain on the ship and Anakin save Padme by using the force. (He uses a shot originally depicting Anakin pulling something off racks to knock two Geonosians off a platform or something.) I don’t remember how well it worked, but I hope to take a look soon.
I appreciate the honesty; while I believe Lucas could have made it work just fine to have the Dooku scene rather than the action setpiece, being able to cobble something totally convincing through fan editing is not a guarantee. Let me see what L8wrtr came up with, and field it. I would, however, be willing to go against having it be completely convincing if it means keeping the nonsense with the droids away.