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#1371309
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Blueffalump, thank you for joining the discussion and I appreciate your comments about the other 9000 edits. I don’t blame you for finding this thread unwieldy and jumping just straight into the workprint.

I also appreciate your feedback about the final shot, not having been enamored with it previously while it was being developed and having apparent impartiality to it regardless of whether it was studio or fan made.

I’ve gotten much more positive feedback about it than negative, and have come to love it myself, too. I never liked the original shot, less so even after learning that Rey was composited in from a shot on Pasaana. She looks thin, unnatural. I do enjoy the combination of Poe, Finn, and Chewie on the Falcon as Rey heads to Tatooine and then the main gang jets out. I don’t think our goal at any point was to show that Rey wasn’t planning to stay on Tatooine per se, but it does help make that clear. My favorite aspect is the musical alteration, rather than reusing TFA’s ending sore and the Force theme for the third time in a row.

Bottom line is that I’m not about to undo this change, though your visceral, honest feedback is helpful in vetting it.

And that’s… a pretty creepy icon. Hope you stick around!

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#1371239
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Well, Anjohan, I’ll welcome your thoughts once you see the whole thing! Thanks for posting.

And, smpearce1981, your post is entirely reasonable and correct. The TIE thing doesn’t bother me per se, but it was an opportunity to make a change that steered clear of what feels like an incongruity. Otherwise we’d never make changes like this and always defer to and accept official explanations.

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#1371039
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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A hallmark of Star Wars is a constantly changing sense of continuity. There’s nothing smooth about it. The EU are nanobots trying to heal somebody constantly being injured in all manner of ways. You can appreciate the effort and do some of it in your own head, but the ST renewed the franchise’s commitment to never planning ahead and constantly retconning everything.

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#1370808
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I don’t know Harry Potter, but I guess so.

I just looked into the “”official”” explanation for Snoke, and I guess he is supposed to be his own separate, real person. Removing the vat of pickled Snokes helps make this interpretation more plausible than the theatrical. And I guess Snoke knew they were a dyad but never told Palpatine.

So, eh, I’m fine with leaving this aspect alone other than removing the Snoke vat. Make of it what you will.

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#1370802
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I don’t really want to change this about the original. My understanding from TROS is that Snoke was a meat puppet, possibly literally housing Palpatine’s spirit before he went into a clone body sometime between TLJ and TROS. One thing about this that gives me pause is that Snoke seemed to recognize that Rey and Ben are linked. But I guess them being a dyad is some weird technicality aside from this.

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#1370651
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I don’t remember whose recordings each was, but as it stands here’s what I’ve implemented:

As Chewie runs off on Pasaana, two KoR say, “Solo’s Wookiee,” and “I get his teeth.” The latter turns his head and it feels like it always was that way.

On Kijimi, the KoR step into frame and the apparent leader says, “Palpatine wants the girl alive. Kill the rest.”

On Exegol, as the KoR step out from around the corner to confront Ben, two say, “Well look who finally made it,” and “Traitor!” The latter is an obvious mirror to Kylo in TFA, highlighting his transformation.

Later, when he pulls the lightsaber out of his ass, a KoR says, “What? How?” And then they all get chopped up, with a few vocalizations that have always been there.

I don’t think these are intrusive, and are 4 out of 6 possible moments for KoR dialogue. (Excluded are “may our bond never again be shattered” during the helmet reforging, and “You betray us for a scavenger” between the other two Exegol lines.)

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#1370486
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I played with them just a little tonight. I don’t think it’d be great to add a line during the mask reforging scene because it distracts from Kylo after his vision.

I like the pasaana lines, and Kijimi’s. I’ve only messed with the first of the three Exegol lines so far but I think they work. I may choose to skip the second of the three. Not sure yet!