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Post: #129952
Topic: Worst changes to OT in '97 and '04
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129952/action/topic#129952
Time: 11-Aug-2005 11:41 AM

About Biggs, it's pretty logical they decided to cut him out near completion, the line "oh Biggs is right, I'm never gonna get out of here" never has made any sense. You don't know who he is at that point.

Post: #128595
Topic: Info Wanted: DVB PAL 1997 Cinematic Release Trilogy Anamorphic?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/128595/action/topic#128595
Time: 7-Aug-2005 9:18 PM

We also have that here in Holland: it's recorded off of Canal+ somewhere.

EDIT: And if that's so it can't be anamorphic, right?

Post: #127629
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127629/action/topic#127629
Time: 4-Aug-2005 1:22 PM

It will be dual-layer. About the other thing, I don't know but guess not.

Post: #127576
Topic: Dr. M's Reinventing The Wheel Edition (PAL to NTSC+) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127576/action/topic#127576
Time: 4-Aug-2005 8:12 AM

Interesting subject this pitch shifting/time stetching stuff. But since Morh3r's video and Arnie.d's audio are both LD sourced, they shouldn't have the minute speed variations VHS has: which caused the out-of-sync problems Moth3r had, caused him a lot of work deleting those 40 ms segments, and still isn't perfect. So I think if you match Moth3r's video with Arnie.d's audio at the beginning and the end of each disc-flip it should match perfectly. I wouldn't wait until Citizen is done, by then it won't be necessary anymore to make a PAL>NTSC conversion, cause he's doing one himself. And I'm with you on the saturation, just because they used to be undersaturated doesn't mean you have to keep it that way. Movies are supposed to be colorful.

Post: #127563
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127563/action/topic#127563
Time: 4-Aug-2005 5:13 AM

Originally posted by: segaflip
I plan on uploading this to a.b.starwars once I am done helping seed at myspleen.

Alright! It has astound me the last couple of weeks nobody took the effort to up it on a.b.starwars, what the hell is taking so long?

Post: #127284
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127284/action/topic#127284
Time: 2-Aug-2005 10:01 PM

Stop working on the artwork and start seeding that bad boy! It is tuesday already...

Damn right!

And something else: Tommy Emmanuel ROCKS!

Post: #126570
Topic: Info Wanted: who no UK PAL LaserDisc Version for a DVD transfer?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/126570/action/topic#126570
Time: 30-Jul-2005 12:31 PM

Assuming VHS sound was hissy crappy do-do was also my mistake. That only appears to be the case with the linear track, the hi-fi track is very good. Just listen to it and you'll find there's no audible difference with the other transfers.

EDIT: Of course the LD audio is better, just not as much as one would expect.

Post: #125897
Topic: .: Moth3r's PAL DVD project :.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125897/action/topic#125897
Time: 27-Jul-2005 10:20 PM

Glad you enjoyed the disc. NTSC as a format is not significantly inferior to PAL, just in this case it's a different laserdisc source that seems to be better. Make an NTSC DVD from the PAL laserdiscs and you should still get better results than a transfer from the D.C. disc.

In terms of percentage the resolution difference is the same in every NTSC/PAL comparison, so PAL will always be an equal amount better looking than NTSC. Right?

VHS video is much worse than DVD, however audio from hi-fi VHS (not the linear track - that does suffer from hiss) has an excellent signal-to-noise ratio.

I didn't know there was a difference in sound-quality between the hi-fi and linear track, have you any idea what causes that? About VHS video being that bad, it totally depends on your VCR. I did some transfers with footage recorded and played back for the conversion with my B&O VCR, and the results astound me. It's crisp, I'm telling you!

ESB has already been uploaded to a.b.sw.

OK, meant reposted...

Post: #125695
Topic: .: Moth3r's PAL DVD project :.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125695/action/topic#125695
Time: 27-Jul-2005 1:24 PM

Yesterday I was doing some extensive studying on the transfers I've got (Isomix, Farsight, EditDroid, TR47 and Dr. Gonzo). And after doing that saw the Moth3r-ANH download was finished. So popped that one in, and it blew me right off of my chair! I really didn't expect NTSC to be that inferior to PAL. Especially when you've been watching the other ones for over an hour the difference is amazing. Although it already was past twelve in the evening I just had to fetch a bag of chips, pop open a beer and watch it entirely. I have quite some experience in VHS>DVD transfers, and have found that with a good VCR the image can be near DVD quality, VERY near. But the thing always giving away the source is the considerable amount of hiss in the sound. Therefore I expected the VHS sound to have ruined this otherwise awesome transfer, until I watched it. I always crank the volume up quite a bit when I'm watching a movie, but I didn't notice any difference with the other transfers. When you really start comparing I have no doubt you'll find the LD sound is better, but when you just watch it you really don't notice it. I did notice an occasional line drop-out and the two color shifts, at first I thought "huh, how could he have missed those?" but I just read the entire thread and found out you had, but didn't fix them (why?).
The only remark I have is the noisyness. Very noticeable on the walls in the Tantive sequence and the first couple of Tatooine scenes. One of the reasons Dr. Gonzo had been my favorite up until now, is the smoothness (not softness!). Of course Dr. Gonzo is also pretty soft besides being smooth, but there is one transfer which is smooth AND sharp: EditDroid. But then, it also has a lot of moire (often referred to as dotcrawl) and some filter really ruined some of the Tatooine scenes. Can this be a result of the smoothening? This is a very important question to my opinion: if you could smoothen it up keeping the sharpness (EditDroid-style) but keep the moire out, there's a fair chance it will look as good, or even better than X0.
Conclusion: Best transfer so far, first one to nuke Dr. Gonzo. I expect it to be better than Cowclops v2, has anyone done a comparison (I haven't got it yet)?

P.S. Can't wait to see ESB uploaded on a.b.starwars or MySpleen

Post: #125508
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125508/action/topic#125508
Time: 26-Jul-2005 9:42 AM

What I recall from reading the thread:

Did you use the chapter markers from the original lasrerdiscs in the end?

No, about half of them.

Any easter eggs we should know about on these discs?

No.

Is there an option for English subtitles (other than the alien subtitles)?

No.

Can you tell us about what was used for the Bonus Materials disc(s)?

DE and faces content.

Post: #125261
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125261/action/topic#125261
Time: 24-Jul-2005 8:58 PM

Great work Zion, adding these screenshots, been looking forward to that. But it's also true they only give an impression to a certain level: Dr. Gonzo isn't very promising in the shots, but still is the best so far to my opinion (not counting Moth3r and Cowclops v2, 'cause I haven't seen those yet).
Doctor M, I'm not quite with you on the absence of compression artifacts on the Cowclops v1. They definitely are there, I can't say for sure what caused them: DV-capture or MPEG-conversion, but there is no doubt of their presence. I must say the visibility of them depends a lot on your DVD-player, on the ones giving the sharpest image the compression artifacts are more pronounced, combined with a big screen even more. On the less expensive ones coupled to a smaller screen you might not notice them.
I compared the following sets: Dr. Gonzo, Cowclops v1, Isomix, EditDroid and Farsight, and on my high-end 32" widescreen TV with a DVD-player giving sharp image Farsight is also the worst looking transfer of all. Way too bright, beyond the possibility of adjusting to the right level: information has been lost in the bright area's (all that's left is white). On top of that it's the most unsharp of all, aswell as the most blocky one: limited vertical source resolution most clearly visible. I'm also surprised you found the viewing experience good, my eyes hurt 'cause of the brightness after watching it. No offence, just my opinion on the issue.

P.S. 88keyz, great initiative posting those clips.

Post: #123410
Topic: Most Powerful Quote in all the Star Wars films.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123410/action/topic#123410
Time: 16-Jul-2005 3:05 AM

"He is as clumsy as he is stupid."

100% Vader-type dialogue, marvelous.

Post: #123340
Topic: Why such hate on the OT DVD set?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123340/action/topic#123340
Time: 15-Jul-2005 2:31 PM

Well, first I'd like to say to the person who started this thread: the original-trilogy forum isn't the best of places to start about changes being good. When you do that it's either to provoke or to get pooped on deliberately. But about the things you suggest to be changed, they are ridiculous. Adding CGI material to a movie from the seventies?! Come on, there's no way you will get that to fit/blend in, just put one of those official DVD's on and you'll see what I mean. All added CGI is very badly done, no realism whatsoever, it's just destracting.
You really shouldn't tamper with something that's earned such a wide appreciation, after 20 years it has grown on to people, human nature. And there is no reason to change anything in the first place: the OT has proven itself the way it is. My opinion is, if you really MUST change anything, just fix some flaws and leave it at that.

Post: #123228
Topic: STAR WARS: the alt.binaries.starwars thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123228/action/topic#123228
Time: 15-Jul-2005 8:51 AM

They're still on MySpleen I think. But one thing that isn't on MySpleen, and I'd VERY MUCH like to see posted on a.b.starwars, is the new Cowclops set...

Post: #121833
Topic: Things you never noticed before in the films
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/121833/action/topic#121833
Time: 8-Jul-2005 2:48 PM

Has everyone seen the reviews at dvdanswers.com? They're pretty good, I hadn't even noticed all of the things mentioned there. But the thing I'm really curious about: the changes made UNTIL '97. Do we have an authority on that?

Post: #121510
Topic: I saw Empire at the AFI Silver theatre on Saturday!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/121510/action/topic#121510
Time: 6-Jul-2005 11:52 PM

Quote
Originally posted by: Seiji
Hope you're not in the crowd when I go and see a comedy.

With the exception of comedies of course

but when you take the late show, as I usually do, there isn't any problem with annoying people making sounds. Saw all the SE's back in '97 that way, it was awesome! One of the first times I ever saw them, I was only twelve back then

Post: #121317
Topic: .: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/121317/action/topic#121317
Time: 6-Jul-2005 5:50 PM

Well, Tellan, how are you doing? Still making progress? I'd like to see the screens, but none of the links work.

Post: #121310
Topic: The "Dr. Gonzo" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/121310/action/topic#121310
Time: 6-Jul-2005 5:02 PM

Originally posted by: Krycek87
NI HAO, Basically the TR47 is if you have a Home Theater set up, (Way I watched them) since the sound is fantastic via Neo DTS 6.1 Matrix since it retains the original PCM audio from the laserdiscs. The Dr. Gonzo is good if you want the "Actual" preservation of the Laserdisc. That being it has all the original Laserdisc marks, commentaries (not all that great), sadly the sound and the picture are not the best if viewed on widescreen tv via DVI or composite, but on standard tvs its great. The sound could be better, my only true grudge with the set.
The TR47 set is great with picture quality and sound. No menus, (I have the original set, not the remix). The picture is great when viewed from composite and standard.
Hope this helps, and w00t! This was my first post!

Ehh.. sorry to say, but it's just the other way around. TR47 still is the sharpest version with the best sound, but since it is not anamorphic and Dr. Gonzo's is, on a widescreen TV Dr. Gonzo will look ten times better than TR47. And though the Dr. Gonzo sound is AC3 and the TR47 is PCM, the quality difference is barely noticeable. If you have a 4:3 TV screen TR47 is the best choice, if you have a widescreen TV go for Dr. Gonzo or Farsight (which is also anamorphic).

Post: #121243
Topic: I saw Empire at the AFI Silver theatre on Saturday!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/121243/action/topic#121243
Time: 6-Jul-2005 9:27 AM

Seeing them on a big screen rocks, but I always hate it when people are laughing, or for that matter, making any sound at all. SHUT UP! I'm watching a movie here!

Post: #121235
Topic: Am I the only one who thinks the CGI effects look fake?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/121235/action/topic#121235
Time: 6-Jul-2005 8:53 AM

The only movie I know of having CGI a 100% beneficial to the movie and not fake, badly done or annoying at any point, is Jurassic Park. Still there are movies being released with CGI inferior to that one. A couple of months ago I saw "Red Planet" and that one probably has the worst CGI I've ever seen. And "I, Robot" could have been done a lot better aswell I think.

Post: #119671
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119671/action/topic#119671
Time: 29-Jun-2005 8:36 PM

This is interesting, I'm going to do some tests to see how noticeable downscaling anamorphic is on a 4:3 TV. But nonetheless, a question you could ask yourself is which screen format (16:9 or 4:3) is most suitable for displaying 2.35:1 footage.

Post: #119618
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119618/action/topic#119618
Time: 29-Jun-2005 4:52 PM

Hmm... but isn't it right that anamorphic just contains more information in the vertical dimention. How can that look less good then an image containing less information (on a regular TV-screen). It seems logical that it would look at least as good. I bought this TV just a month ago btw, before that I also had a 21" regular TV, but I've never experienced anamorpic DVD's looking different from non-anamorphics. It seems to me you just don't notice it being anamorphic on a regular TV, but do notice it on a bigger screen. Or am I missing something here?

Post: #119590
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119590/action/topic#119590
Time: 29-Jun-2005 3:35 PM

Hi y'all, a new member here, from the Netherlands (yes that little country where they invented the laserdisc, the CD and the DVD). About anamorphic/non-anamorphic, I have a 32" Philips widescreen TV, and first saw Isomix, TR47 and EditDroid. I must say at the time I was pretty satisfied with them, but then I saw Dr. Gonzo's and it totally blasted them away in picture quality, despite it being a bit unsharp. The reason why: Dr. Gonzo's is anamorphic. The way I see it there can be no debate about which is better, non-anamorphic always is inferior to anamorphic. I was really amazed by the X0 stills I've seen, when they're done I doubt you'd see much - if any - difference between them and the official DVD's. You guys are magicians.