Grand Admiral Thrawn

NFBisms said:

Honestly though, I do want to apologize for how condescending I’m being. I think because I’ve had a lot of these conversations throughout different threads or on the server, I get tired of re-litigating and catching things up to where a different one (on the same topic) is. But forums just move slower and more sparsely and ultimately it is two different communities, regardless of overlap.

That’s really no one’s fault and honestly unfair of me.

At the end of the day we all want the same thing anyways, fun Star Wars stories that resonate, just need the Disney Overlords to evaluate their endgame a little better before they make and release something.

Yeah, it’s wild when you consider that The Acolyte had a massive $180 million budget (compared to the other Star Wars Disney+ shows that sit around a $90-110 million budget) and still ended up being the least-watched Star Wars show on Disney+. With that kind of investment, they were obviously banking on it being a hit, but the numbers just do not justify keeping it around it seems.

It’s like Lucasfilm is just throwing money at these projects without a clear plan, then acting surprised when they don’t work out. What’s really missing here is someone spearheading the ship creatively. Without a clear leadership role to define the vision and direction, we’ll just keep seeing more of the same: big budgets, weak execution, and a string of missed opportunities.

Lucasfilm has an untapped goldmine in The Old Republic era, a chance to right some of the wrongs of the ST with a The Clone Wars-style animated show featuring the OT characters on adventures post-ROTJ, as well as a bunch of different bounty hunter and Jedi characters that they could make content for. Why they don’t just write and develop more stories around these characters just blows my mind…

NFBisms said:

I absolutely believe it’s worth exploring why something does or doesn’t work, don’t get me wrong. That’s kind of my whole obsession, yk? I don’t post walls of text working through my thoughts on something on a forum because I fundamentally misunderstand that. I apologize for being a bit glib, but my frustrations are actually that I don’t think people are being good enough at it. /respectfully

If your obsession is figuring out why things work or don’t, then it’s a little ironic to dismiss my points as arbitrary. You say people aren’t good enough at this, but then you brush off anyone trying to have the conversation. Maybe the problem isn’t that people are missing the mark, it’s that you’re more interested in tearing down discussions than actually having them. Respectfully.

NFBisms said:

ok define dragging, rushing, coherent, compelling, etc

I realize this is annoying but I truly think whatever thesis you can make from this kind of thing falls apart under any kind of scrutiny. I’m not saying things can’t be evaluated or that I even disagree about the Acolyte, but trying to speak on some kind of objective corporate tip, from your own purely personal engagement with the content’s quality is arbitrary. Your opinion is not invalid, you’re just not going to discover an insight worth saying out loud.

“Make good things, not bad things!”

I get it… terms like “dragging” or “compelling” are subjective, but they’re still useful in discussing media. My point isn’t to create an objective corporate strategy but to highlight that when content fails to resonate, it’s worth exploring why. Yes, it might boil down to “Make good things, not bad things” but understanding what makes something “good” is crucial for creating successful content, especially for a company like Disney.

Double post

You’re right, terms like “good,” “well-paced” and “competent” are subjective.

But that doesn’t mean they can’t be evaluated.

“Well-paced” usually refers to a story that keeps the audience engaged without dragging or rushing, and “competent” writing means the plot and characters are coherent and compelling. These aren’t arbitrary standards; they’re widely recognized in storytelling. And when Disney’s content doesn’t meet these standards, it can affect viewership and revenue. So, while subjective, these qualities still have real-world implications for the business.

The real issue here, and the main issue with Disney as a whole it seems, they will never just come out and said it was a poorly written show that was badly paced and shouldn’t have been greenlight to begin with.

Disney also does not convey that message to their writers/staff, who then go on social media and blast certain sections of the fandom as racist and sexist for not liking their story. If Disney keeps failing to fix the problem at home and firing these people that cannot write a decent and well-paced story and replacing them with competent people, then we’ll just keep getting a new The Acolyte each year.

Yes, there are racists and sexists in every fandom, but, some people might not have liked your work for other reasons… mainly, it not being that well written or it doesn’t clearly convey the message it is trying to tell.

What is the reason for making this content? And if it isn’t a compelling one, then back to the beginning and start again.

Now I’d love a fanedit of this that takes it down to a 2 hour mystery/thriller and removes all of the “we are getting a second season” assumptions.

stwd4nder2 said:

There’s a web-dl of the Extended Cut in HD, I found it on PTP but I’m sure it’s available elsewhere.

I sent you a PM. Have been searching for a while and have found it nowhere.

Hells yeah. Let me know if you need any assistance getting the OBS stuff. I work in IT so I’m good at troubleshooting LOL. Seems like we are close to getting the HD rip. Crazy!

Good luck! Keep me posted! We’ll get this in HD somehow.

If you can! Happy to help. Let me know what you find out. It doesn’t seem like it is letting me buy it through MA so idk

I think you may need to buy on iTunes, link to MA. Then download and record with OBS.

The Extended Edition is available on MoviesAnywhere as an extra:
https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/fantastic-four-2005

I’m in the US.

It seems we may be able to download it locally and then record from the stream using MA.

Okay so I installed iTunes and am browsing the store. It does not seem like the HD Extended Edition is listed in the extras anymore.

I’ve never used OBS and am not familiar with ripping it from the stream. I’d need some kind of guide to help and I could share it here unless someone else wants to give it a shot.

How can we get it off iTunes? I can help cover the cost.

Is it still available to purchase as an extra on iTunes though?

I have been dying to find this. Any help I can offer to get a good HD copy, I’m down.

Hal 9000 said:

Any issues with this, then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iPEnLrJGv9CEmWqcX_TkibyyBWnlPgP0/view?usp=drive_link

This is literally perfect. Only took five versions, but to quote Mando… this is the way.

DZ-330 said:

Just thinking…

• Redo Poe’s Illum line
• Maybe cleanup/redo Finn’s: “It’s the First Order, they’ve found us line.”
• An angry line for Poe about making the First Order pay after the destruction of the Hosnian System (helping to explain why they are continuing the assault)
• Potential line for Lor San Tekka (or Kylo) clarifying that it isn’t a map that Luke left to find him, but a map that leads to an ancient Jedi Temple where Luke may be, clearing up the confusion on why Luke would leave a map if he didn’t want to be found.
• Maybe some kind of line before Rey leaves to find Luke about starting an evacuation soon because the First Order is coming to D’Qar to counterattack.
• Any Leia exposition lines that could be on comms during the Starkiller X-Wing battle?
• A Maz Kanata line about having to leave soon to go settle a union dispute (TLJ connection)
• Over the loudspeaker at the Resistance base in the background “Rose Tico, please report to maintenance.”

Bumping this…

I actually love that idea!

Wary to condone any action
that could lead to war,
the Senate has secretly
commissioned the pilots
of a brave RESISTANCE
to find the last Jedi and
restore the light of hope
to the darkening stars…

You know me and my tweaks haha. I like where you are going with this, might I suggest…

Seeking to defuse this
emerging threat, daring
Senators have secretly
commissioned the pilots
of a brave RESISTANCE
to find the last Jedi and
restore the light of hope
to the darkening stars…

The reason for the tweak…

• Make it sound more present tense
• Make it so the leaders do not seem afraid and are actually competent
• Make it so that it is not the Senate but only a select few that are supporting the Resistance in hopes to de-escalate the conflict.

Just downloaded and I’m not noticing any changes. Guess that is a good thing? haha

Hey Hal, do you have any specifics you could share of what was added back in?

I don’t know why people are so obsessed with Scene 38.

It’s not that well done, it doesn’t fit the aesthetic of the original film, and it’s just so obvious that it isn’t the same set or actors for that matter.

The whole “we are going to make something that can seamlessly be entered in” is easily the biggest fail of that project. It is a fun supplemental thing, but to this day I do not understand the obsession with shoehorning it into every fanedit.

Ady’s version of the duel has been just fine. The movie came out in 1977. You have to accept the slower-paced duel the same as Yub-Nub. It was never a “problem” until the fast-paced prequel duels were a thing…

EDIT: Forgot to include, but the link above appears not to include any clips of Scene 38, but it does seem like it is respecting the source material much better when they were editing it. It feels really similar to Ady’s existing duel though.