Grand Admiral Thrawn

Well put @Burbin 👏

Hopefully this can be realized in this cut of the film.

Fair enough. Plus we know Kylo didn’t see the whole truth. Headcanon is that he made that up to help twist the knife some.

Master Lawdog said:

Because during the flashback where Luke was training her, the twins were still young, and it is very likely that Ben had not been born at that point. By having Leia end her Jedi training to focus on being a mother, it would make sense to lay down her lessons from Luke. It also makes it seem Ben chose to die rather than it being destined to be.

What if…

Luke: “It was the last night of her training. Leia told me that she had sensed the death of her son at the end of her Jedi path. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day… it would be picked up again… by someone who would finish her journey. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”

Leia quits being a Jedi, because as it has been explained numerous times, she never wanted to be one. Leia wanted to focus on politics and then dumped her son on Luke later on to train. What if we just make that line about Leia realizing that, being a Jedi is not for her, and someone else would eventually take her spot. In my opinion, it makes her taking on Rey as a trainee even stronger as she believes Rey would be her successor as a Jedi. Just food for thought!

Can someone help explain to me why “Leia told me she had sensed the birth of her son” is an improvement? To me, having someone close to you die is more of a reason to cease and desist than having a child being born. Can a mom not be a Jedi too?

Not trying to be rude, I’m just curious how this line change is viewed as an improvement?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Poppa’s edit actually doesn’t remove it, I’m pretty sure. I had to go in and remove it myself. Was pretty easy to do it seamlessly, though.

Would @Poppa consider a V3.1 with any potential changes needed in TLJ to make TROS a more coherent-ish story?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Ah, what a mess.

This should have been the main tagline for the film haha

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I remember having this same conversation a while back. The problem with making her parents bad people is that the Palpy/Rey scene at the end relies on the whole “she will take her revenge!” spiel. He’s trying to get her to hate him. But if Palpatine is responsible for the killing of her parents, and they were bad people, then really Rey should be thanking Palps for neutralizing those scum bags. Not exactly the greatest strategy. And don’t even get me started on the fact that it makes no sense that they wouldn’t reveal her location to Ochi if they were bad.

Don’t get me wrong, it would have been better for them to be bad, but unfortunately the movie we have been given relies on them being good. Doing the opposite would involve removing way too much content and make the Rey/Palpatine scene kinda confusing.

I see your point. But I do think the revenge she could be taking would be because she was alone for all those years because of Palpatine. Rey being “no one” and on her own and not having a family her whole life was because of Palpatine and her deadbeat parents. Palpatine wanted her to feel alone and resent him and strike him down in anger so he could take over her. He even taunts her about having the power to save her friends. He even tries to tempt her to go bad to “protect” her new family. I could see it working that way but it may be tough to make that easily apparent in the film.

Hal 9000 said:

I think I’d prefer the default version of this project not to venture down the path of making her parents back into shitheads, but I see your point.

I’d argue it makes Rey’s character better in the film and trilogy. Because her new family actually loves and accepts her and wants her around. And the whole, “my parents abandoned me” view from TLJ is maintained and helps with contradictions. I think it should be considered for a Rey Palpatine cut.

Anchorhead said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

@DrVibble Regarding your review. At one point you mention drama about Lucasfilm and Kennedy. You better not be referring to those false “civil war” rumors from Doomcock…

Word that less like a threat. Consider this a warning.

Would love for the mods to just prevent him from posting in this thread because all he does is troll everyone all day long and provide suggestions outside the scope of this edit.

It could work as a replacement for the removed lines “I never wanted you dead…”

Please tell me his line is: “Mistress Rey, he’s too powerful… what are you going to do?” 😂😂😂

Release a new special edition of The Phantom Menace, downgrading all the other effects but updating Jar Jar to the best of current gen graphics

TestingOutTheTest said:

My suggestions generally improve Terrio’s dialogue in the opening scene with Kylo and Palps so it’d be less clunky.

That is fully YOUR opinion, and using that as an argument for a change won’t get you there in any fanedit. Actually explaining how the change betters fits or improves the character arcs will make your suggestions better received.

Please consider making your own thread for these or post in the Rise of Skywalker Fanedit Ideas thread and stop bloating this one with changes that are backed solely with “because I think it’s better that way” or changes that would be practically impossible to do.

TestingOutTheTest said:

There’s those Tarkin and Leia deepfakes for Rogue One.

@TestingOutMyPatience, these were included in Hal’s edit of Rogue One as someone did them on YouTube and was nice enough to share their work. I’m sure if you made something passable that looked like it could be in the original film, it would probably be considered for this edit. Some of these suggestions would be better received in this thread.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

With the latest Bad Batch episode (light spoiler) it seems like it’s canon that those experimental cloning tubes are filled with green liquid. Are we going to stick with the red or is green a possibility? I seem to remember Poppa making two different versions.

I believe this is the version

What if a line was added?

Palpatine: “The Jedi are dead! I am all the Sith! A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me, you are nothing.”

Rey: “No… I’m a Jedi.”

Or:

Palpatine: “Laughing… I am all the Sith! A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me, you are nothing.”

Rey: “No… I’m a Jedi.”

Neerb said:

Haha, I thought someone must have suggested it earlier. I do think it’s the best option if it’s doable. I guess it was shot down almost immediately when you first brought it up, but I don’t think the demo did the idea justice, so I’m still curious if it’s really possible.

To me, having it that way is the only way the “I am a Jedi” pays off well in Rey’s arc. Hopefully the new demo sways some opinions on how doable it may be.

DZ-330 said:

The only way I can see the dialogue working with Rey saying “No” is as follows:

Palpatine: “I am all the Sith! A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me. You are nothing.”

Rey: “No… I’m a Jedi.”

Bump 😉

Building on what @sherlockpotter had:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Flames of rebellion burn across the galaxy! Inspired by Luke Skywalker’s heroic act, countless worlds have taken a stand in the name of Resistance. As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training.

Hoping to quell this growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has begun silencing any planetary system that supports their enemy.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren, having sensed a new power rising in the shadows, has traveled to Mustafar, determined to destroy any threats to his rule…

TestingOutTheTest said:

I’m giving out suggestions and contributing to the edit.

I can send you a link if you want. So can Hal. That way you can actually watch the edit to help improve the suggestions you’re making. Just PM me and I’ll be glad to share!

TestingOutTheTest said:

Apologies. I didn’t actually watch Ascendant, I just judged based on the movie’s plot and the list of changes.

Then why are you posting in this thread?! This deal keeps getting worse all the time.

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Flames of rebellion burn across the
galaxy. The tyrannical First Order has
retaliated by silencing any planetary
system that supports their enemy.

As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi,
continues her training, General Leia
Organa sends her brave agents across the
stars to unite the disparate worlds in
the name of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren,
determined to destroy any threat to
his power, has traveled to Mustafar,
where an ancient artifact of the SITH
has been discovered…

TestingOutTheTest said:

“Mysterious origins of Snoke”? Come on, his backstory can already be inferred from TFA.

Do you ever stop? If you have nothing of substance to add then get the hell off this thread. Everything in your article is solely opinions and things inferred by you alone. At this point I’d be glad to watch a TotT edit of TROS. Oh wait, that’s the original movie.

I feel like this edit has come to far to rely on what is in the crawl now. If something is better for the sake of the story and character motivations then maybe the crawl could be changed to help those adjustments.

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Flames of rebellion burn across the
galaxy. The tyrannical First Order has
retaliated by silencing any planetary
system that supports their enemy.

As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi,
continues her training, General Leia
Organa sends her brave agents across the
stars to unite the disparate worlds in
the name of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has
traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of
an ancient artifact that could explain the
mysterious origins of his former master…

TestingOutTheTest said:

I feel like Palps’ reveal should remain in the crawl, this time putting a halt to TLJ’s theme of hope in the beginning of the movie.

The whole reason the crawl was changed was to remove the cheapening effect of having a major character return be announced via an opening crawl, and in terms of this edit it does not make sense to have it there.