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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Sounds like the new line works to me then hahaha 😉
Sounds like the new line works to me then hahaha 😉
She takes it back up by being Rey’s master. But Leia being her master is having Rey run the same obstacle course she used to, having her read the books Luke found, and having her try to reach out to past Jedi through the force.
Leia is not much of a master of the force or a teacher for that matter…
I think Luke’s “There’s something my sister would want you to have” fixes that though. Leia failed, but her faith is in Rey to make things right and continue the path she should have but chose not to.
That is the problem with the sequels as a whole. Terrible writing. But at least this line of thinking with her in politics makes some sense.
Luke fails as a Jedi
Han fails as a leader
Leia fails as a politician
Exactly my thought, and why I think he should say “Rey” first.
Luke: “Rey, final lesson, some things are stronger than blood.”
While that would work better in terms of sentence structure, I believe the goal here was to replicate his style of introducing lessons from TLJ.
“Lesson one. The Force is not a power you have…”
“Lesson two. Now that they’re extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified…”
In that context, I think the line might read better as:
Luke: “Rey, lesson three. Some things are stronger than blood.”
Luke: “Because you’re a Palpatine?”
Start next line when it cuts to Rey’s expression
Luke: “Here is my final lesson Rey, some things are stronger than blood.”
It’s honestly kinda scary how realistic this sounds when put together:
Wow! AI is amazing but scary at the same time. 👍
Would it be possible to snip the “and its people” part? I’m mostly thinking about constraints in terms of available space for the new lines.
Like this?
Luke: “I started to train her, but she was reluctant to follow the Jedi Path. Leia felt she could better serve the galaxy through diplomacy, like our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
If we were to go for the politics explanation route, then I at the very least agree that it being “the last night of her training” needs to be replaced with something else. Make it clear that she didn’t train for that long with him.
This is why I had suggested this instead:
Luke: “I started to train her, but Leia was reluctant to follow the Jedi Path. She knew she could better serve the galaxy and its people through diplomacy, like our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
The reason I don’t like mentioning Ben in that scene is because if Leia sensed trouble in Ben’s future… then why would she send him away with Luke and not be more interested in what was going on with Ben and making sure that vision didn’t come true.
Leia looks concerned in the flashback, that could be seen more as a “Why am I doing this?” look instead of a “I’m concerned about my son.” look.
The “both sabers” line is not in V3 guys, FYI 😉
Here is the current lines:
Luke: “There’s something my sister would want you to have.”
Rey: “Leia’s saber.”
Luke: “It was the last night of her training. Leia told me that she had sensed the end of her Jedi Path. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
Rey: “I can’t get there. I don’t have the wayfinder. I destroyed Ren’s ship.”
Luke Skywalker: “You have everything you need.”
- “Rose, let me save you this time.” instead of the vaguely patronizing “Rose, please” during the final battle when he wants them to leave without him
The Last Jedi: Rekindled viewers sigh…
Finn: “Rose, this is where I belong.”
This would be a nice callback to the “where we belong” scenes in TLJ.
How about: “…bring about greater change through diplomacy, like our mother once did, than the jedi path”?
I love the idea of Luke referring to their mother. Padme gets no love in the sequels! 😦
Luke: “I started to train her, but Leia was reluctant to follow the Jedi Path. She knew she could better serve the galaxy and its people through diplomacy, like our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
https://youtu.be/REXY9RKk87M?si=UKCP_Fs0CaClCXxN
Plus, it gives an explanation for how the hell he suddenly knows how to Force heal. Luke could have parted that wisdom to him. Definitely doesn’t need to be in this edit whatsoever, but I might consider it for my own personal copy.
Good idea but I don’t know if I’d like tying Anakin in. Luke fell into the whole “fear of attachment thing” as well and I don’t see him wanting to validate Anakin’s “save the people I love from dying” mentality, as that came from a dark place on Anakin’s side.
Maybe something simpler like:
Luke: “Ben, you can still save her. Remember our training.”
I would think that it’s worth it to revisit the idea of having Luke saying “Lesson three” or “Final lesson” during the Ach-To conversation seeing as it’s more plausable now.
Luke: “Rey, some things are stronger than blood. Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi. Your destiny, and my final lesson. If you don’t face Palpatine, it will mean the end of the Jedi, and the war will be lost.”
Replace “Jedi Rocks” with this and add Jar Jar to Jabba’s Palace as one of the slave dancers.
The only place I can think of is when Ben picks up Rey’s body: he quickly jerks his head and looks around the area as if he heard somebody speaking. Luke could say something to him there. Not sure what exactly.
That is what I was thinking as well, Luke could say something like “Ben, it’s not to late for her”, but that’s not needed at all and may detract from the scene.
Since we can make Luke say whatever we want… we could just change the whole dialogue for the scene entirely if it is seamless enough…
Luke: “There’s something my sister would want you to have.”
Rey: “Leia’s saber.”
Luke: “I started to train her, but Leia was reluctant to follow the Jedi Path. She knew she could better serve the galaxy and its people through diplomacy. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
JEDIT: Plus by doing it in this kind of way, it gets rid of the whole “Leia sensed” thing that seems to cloud up her reasoning for why she quit the Jedi Path
Could have Luke talk to Ben before or on Exegol, kind of patch things up before they are buddy-buddy force ghosts after wanting to kill each other in TLJ. Not sure where though, just spitballing.
We also didn’t want it to make it seem like Rey is destined for darkness. So a “dark calling” is also off the table. I landed on what I did because it implies a struggle but something that she can overcome.
Makes sense! That Luke voice is stellar, wonder if there are any other gaps that can be filled with it.
Luke talks to Kylo? Have “See ya around kid” from TLJ actually foreshadow TROS 😉
Jar Jar! Sounds great! Very funny we posted the Luke stuff at practically the same time LOL. As for the “Leia knew it too.” replacement, how about something like:
Luke: "Because you’re a Palpatine? I wanted to help you; I told Leia.
Rey: “She didn’t tell me. She still trained me.”
Luke: “Because she saw your spirit, your heart. Rey, some things are stronger than blood.”
This implies that Luke (and Leia) only knew after Luke had transcended into the force. Personally, I like the way it is now in V3, but if Hal did decide to add it back in, I think this could work.
If we are able to get a better Luke voice… might I suggest:
Luke: “There’s something my sister would want you to have.”
Rey: “Leia’s saber.”
Luke: “It was the last night of her training. Leia felt she could help the galaxy more in a different way. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her Jedi Path. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
Rey: “I can’t get there. I don’t have the wayfinder. I destroyed Ren’s ship.”
Luke Skywalker: “You have everything you need.”
Hal, I haven’t touched an OG version of the prequels in YEARS. Thank you for your hard work in crafting edits worthy of the name Star Wars. 😃
I have the DVD burned as an ISO file, but when I try to do an upscale burn to an MKV it always stops at the 50 minute mark.
I’d love to find a way to get an HD copy of this though. Loved the EE of this movie.