For the first line, I think if we can have him sounding more like he is asking a question it might sound even better.
Any chance you would put Yoda’s exile into Dagobah into the Padme Dies version? Revenge of the Sith: Rebalanced found a nice spot for it with interrupting the flow of the ending.
I had to go find where he put it… from his changelist:
I understand if Hal doesn’t want to add this as it can be assumed Yoda goes there.
Plus the ending structure of: Mother -> Father -> Daughter -> Son is too good to mess with.
Here is the comparison, so I’m guessing it would be the spy line unless we want him to say something else:
Original
Trooper: What’s your operating number?
C-3P0: “Speaking gibberish”
Trooper: That’s not even a language!
Ascendant V2
Trooper: Who are you?!
C-3P0: I am a highly-trained Resistance spy!
Trooper: Then why are you… what?!
No, that’s outside what the goal of the alternate version is. And if that’s what you’d like to see, L8wrtr’s version would come pretty close. (That’s why I held out on doing an alternate version to begin with, because his is already a well done edit that concludes that way. But this alternate version will execute what LOE does best except properly accommodating the theatrical ending.)
Sounds good! LoE is still my go to for the alternative version. Plus with your prequels, Yoda isn’t a gymnist doing flips so it makes sense! I just know it’s a crowd pleaser but I understand it’s exclusion.
Since this is an alternate version… what are the thoughts on adding back Yoda and Palpatine’s duel?
@adywan SomethingStarWarsRelated just found a program you might want to use for your original trilogy edit. used in the right way it’s a game changer not just for Star Wars but for a lot of old movies shows cartoons etc. it’s wild https://youtu.be/K3VBE5hMVu0
Wow! That’s amazing stuff. I wonder how that could help with Vader’s lines in ANH to making him sound more like the other OT films. If Ady’s up for it I could definitely see the “Mix of both” being used to help with some of the on-set lines that are rather lacking in crispness.
Also… even more symbolism with the Shuttle is that it is Palpatine’s ride so instead of the shot having Vader’s and Luke’s ships, it literally symbolizes Rey’s choice of Skywalker or Palpatine…
The Shuttle does make more thematic sense too! Because the last time a Shuttle left Death Star II it was carrying Luke and a redeemed Anakin. Now it departs with a redeemed Ben. Plus I love the ROTJ call back as well. I get the symbolism of Vader’s TIE, but man that Shuttle VFX was nice.
Double post… oops!
As far as lengthening the granddaughter line or reveal, I think that’d be a nice way to finish Kylo’s thesis about proving to Rey who she is. I like it.
Rey: Why would he want to kill a child?
Kylo: Because he saw what you would become. Don’t you see it? It’s always been there. Rey, you have his power.
(cuts to Rey)
Kylo: You… are his granddaughter.
(cuts back to Kylo)
Kylo: My mother was the daughter of Vader. Your father was the son of the Emperor.
My thought was replacing, “You are a Palpatine” with “You are his Granddaughter” during the shot of Rey.
And then the original spot of that line would be used to help mesh better with her darkness in TFA and TLJ, with Kylo implying the darkness in her was genetic.
Speaking of Kylo Ren lines… let’s maybe take another stab at Rey’s lineage reveal?
Because he saw what you would become. You don’t just have power; you have his power.
You’re his granddaughter.It’s always been there.
You are a Palpatine.
You are his granddaughter.My mother was the daughter of Vader. Your father was
the sona clone of the Emperor.
What’s the purpose of referring to the cannons when this edit removes the fact they are “planet destroying”?
Sounds and looks great! Only thing I would MAYBE tweak is “… his contingency plan.” so the line finishes before it cuts back to Poe. Then again that could just be someone who has watched that scene way too many times so the cut is obvious lol
More emotional: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19o0WNkiH2MfCDdtII5MV0U0xc3i9NHBO/view?usp=sharing
Bingo 😉
Thanks Jar Jar! I wonder how they’ll fit in with the video. This AI stuff is amazing… and this is coming from someone that works in the technology industry. Truly mind-blowing stuff.
Edit: Are you able to make him sound even angrier or pissed off? Poe needs to have his “head in his cockpit” and be fuming.
The only spot/spots I could see it working would be from (1:51:47 - 1:51:52), so that gives us 4 secs for a quick Poe line.
Poe: “We need to make them pay!”
Pilot: “We just lost Red 1.”
Pilot 2: “We’re overwhelmed. What do we do it isn’t working?”
Pilot 3: “Black Leader, there’s a brand new hole in that Oscillator. Looks like our friends got in.”
Poe: “Red 4, Red 6, cover us… everybody else hit the target hard give it everything you got.”
Or, we could trim Pilot 3’s line since the camera cuts to the Oscillator midway through his line:
Pilot 3: “Black Leader, there’s a brand new hole in that Oscillator.”
Poe: “Let’s make them pay! Red 4, Red 6, cover us… everybody else hit the target hard give it everything you got.”
I was just driving into work and had an idea pop in my head for V2, if it makes sense and if @JarJarBricks is up for making it…
To help with making Poe’s characterization more consistent across TFA and TLJ and with the characters intentions towards the end of the film, could we try to add an angry AI line (with X-Wing comm effect) for Poe to say after Starkiller Base destroys the New Republic and he starts another attack run?
Something along the lines of:
This will also help to explain why they are still attacking the base, because in Hal’s Restructured the base was recharging and targeting the Resistance, and in this edit that was removed.
When the Resistance arrives on Takodana, it still seems obvious to me that there is a cut in the music to accommodate for the removed Poe scenes as the X-Wings approach Maz’s castle.
There were also a few other spots, can’t remember specifically at the moment, where it seemed like the audio didn’t blend together well. I would assume those are spots from reshuffled scenes. I’ll see if I can find a list of transitions/cuts that might need some further tweaking for V2 and see if there is any edits I could make/suggest with the audio to help make it seem more… seamless.
Didn’t expect to see my name in the special thanks! What an honor Nev 😃
Downloading now. Great work on this!
I pulled that sound effect from TROS because in my world TROS doesn’t exist 😉
I’d like to think that too, but Hal did way too good of a job putting together Ascendant to cast it aside 😄
One other suggestion as I’m currently watching the workprint, just cause it’s already in The Rise of Skywalker… remove Rey’s added “CHEWIE!” line when he detonates the explosives. Daisy really should have gotten another line reading/shouting for that one.
Plus, it makes it a little awkward having two Chewbacca death fake-outs in the Sequel Trilogy with Rey yelling the exact same thing 😄
I’m watching the workprint and noticed an odd audio issue from (1:11:48-1:11:53) when the Resistance arrives on Takodana. The music jumps and you can tell there has been a cut. Any chance it could be made a little more seamless if possible?
Amazing!
