Grand Admiral Thrawn

Well, if we are revisiting it yet again, does this read better?

Luke:
“She was quick to learn in our training, but Leia was wary of the shadow that had turned our father. She felt she could better serve the galaxy through diplomacy, as our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again, by someone who would finish her journey.”

On the plus side, there is a big gap between sentences in the film. If you think of the scene without the flashback Luke and Rey are just awkwardly staring at Leia’s saber without speaking for a good 30 seconds. Maybe this fixes that LOL 😄

But overall, I love how we have it now and don’t think this is necessary dialogue to include.

I feel adding more to the line is overkill and not needed. Don’t need to turn Luke into Basil Exposition after all!

I think the whole Leia sending Ben away to train with Luke was explained enough as is in TFA and TLJ. Leia wasn’t a Jedi, Luke was. Leia sends Ben to get force help from a Jedi.

JEDIT: Plus, it makes Leia look like an even shittier mom knowing the darkness her son is struggling with and pawning him off on someone else.

RogueLeader said:

I honestly shut Star Wars edits mostly out of my mind when this stuff first started popping up because the possibilities were just too overwhelming.

For the sake of sanity… I think it would be wise for faneditors with pre-existing edits to ONLY revisit ideas that were like 98% completed towards what they wanted it to be, to help give it that extra 2% to complete their vision. And for any new edits, to only rely on AI voices to help implement a greater change elsewhere.

Otherwise, it’ll just be a crapshow where half a movie will be AI dialogue and it will lose the DNA that made it unique.

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you, it will.

Ahh gotcha. Sorry bout that!

Wasn’t the line: “But Leia felt…” ?

NeverarGreat said:

Done!

Wizard

RogueLeader said:

First:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qNb_f7AwetG9cXlU6aFv3A3gIrOu6TbK/view?usp=drivesdk

Second:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iprhwpzpLeXs0St1Duk91IN9v4cWOm3a/view?usp=drivesdk

Option 2 sounds a little bit fuller/better to me on my headphones. Option 1 seems to have a slight AM radio-like effect to it.

NeverarGreat said:

A mockup of the Force Healing illustration:

That looks incredible! I do wonder if there can be some “>” arrows added on the line to better illustrate the person with his hand on the other is actually sending energy over, not draining it.

I think the family line works for Leia.

• Leia tells her she is family.

• Palpatine tells her she is family.

Rey has to decide if she chooses light or dark.

Palpatine’s line in the movie:
“They don’t have long. No one is coming to help them. And you are the one who led them here. Strike me down. Take the throne. Reign over the new Empire, and the fleet will be yours. Only you have the power to save them. Refuse, and your new family… dies.”

Hal 9000 said:

The longer line about diplomacy is not 100% seamless when baked in and having another real Hamill line right afterward, but sounds very good.

@JarJar, could a few different takes of the longer line help to alleviate this?

Worth cleaning up Rey’s new line when she fights Palpatine at the end?

Palpatine: “A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me!”
Rey: “I… I’m a Jedi.”

Hal:
“V3 is done. I only have a few small updates to my other edits and I am retiring from fanedits for now.”

@RogueLeader:
Innovates the AI line readings using a new method

Hal:

Interesting! That’s awesome.

Also, not sure if I missed the explanation, but how were y’all able to substantially improve the quailty of the AI voices pretty much overnight from V3 being released?

I think there is enough room to include

“I learned from the ancient texts. Force energy from me to him.”

Burbin said:

I personally think mentioning both the texts AND Leia in such a tight space feels too forced, and like, wouldn’t the texts themselves show her how? It’s a neat idea to have Leia be involved, but she’s already very involved in Ben’s redemption as it is, she sacrifices herself to reach out to him, and with the added shot of the medal it’s also implied she had a hand in Ben’s “memory” of Han. I think is fine if the Force Heal is left as a personal moment between Rey and Kylo/Ben, and it gives the ancient knowledge Rey decided to preserve a moment to shine in this film.

+1

And with the new flashback dialogue that leaves the amount of time Leia trained with Luke up in the air, I think it is better for this just to be a character moment for Rey showing that she is taking the initiative to learn as a Jedi on her own as well.

Rey: “Wait. Don’t shoot it. I’m going to try something from the Jedi texts.”

Not sure if this would read better or not… but as opposed to Rey already knowing it, she is trying it for the first time here.

Emperor Palpatine: At last. Snoke trained you well.

Kylo Ren: I killed Snoke. I’ll kill you.

Emperor Palpatine: My boy. I made trained Snoke.

Since Ascendant removes the notion of Snoke literally being created by Palpatine, maybe we give Snoke back some agency as a character in the ST?

If that does work out well too, we could better clean up his motivations about wanting to take over Rey since Kylo turned back to the light. I am thinking during the “The Princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plan” scene.

Time to revive the “more than a clone, less than a man” line?

DominicCobb said:

Seems like maybe keeping the length of her training completely in the dark is maybe the cleanest solution.

Fair enough! I think we can consider this V4 change complete, unless Hal has any other input?

Hal 9000 said:

That’s a beaut’. It’s like Mark Hamill were still with us today.

In my “lack of sleep” daze I just had to quickly Google if something happened to Mark. He is still alive no worries 😄

Burbin said:

"Our mother watched helplessly as the democracy she fought so hard to maintain crumbled before her eyes, so Leia decided to follow in her footsteps and watched helplessly as the democracy she fought so hard to maintain crumbled before her eyes. She surrendered her saber to me and left me to deal with Ben Solo’s darkness alone.

Lesson three. Now that she’s gone, Leia is romanticized, deified. But if you strip away the myth and look at her deeds, the legacy of Leia is failure. Hypocrisy, hubris. A thousand generations live in you now, but this is your fight, and honestly you’re better off on your own."

Isn’t that the same thing Luke did, rebuilt a Jedi Order in the same way as before and watched it crumble?

@Burbin, think you need to understand there is no saving the writing for the OT characters in the ST.

DZ-330 said:

“I started to train her, and she was a quick learner."

Leia kicks Luke’s ass

"But Leia felt she could better serve the galaxy through diplomacy, as our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by someone who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”

@JarJar, can you try this one? The new one isn’t bad, but I think that initial line misses that Leia only trained briefly.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I actually really liked having “Leia was a quick learner” right after she beats Luke in combat. Putting it before would spoil who wins their spar kinda. But it’s a minor thing, really.

I think it gives a little twist, cause she grabs the lightsaber with the force and you’re like “oh she did learn the force quick” and then she completely owns Luke to his shock. That’s kinda funny to me 😂

And the “quick learner” part of the line would be over the part where she picks up the saber with the force. chef’s kiss