Grand Admiral Thrawn

Here is a potential version:

Emperor Palpatine:
“The Princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plan, but her foolish act will be in vain. Come to me on Exegol, General Pryde.”

General Pryde:
“As I served you in the old wars, I serve you now.”

Emperor Palpatine:
“The Final Order begins. She will come; her friends will follow.”
“The grandson of Vader was weak. The girl must take my throne now. Let her approach.”

General Pryde:
“Yes, my Lord.”

Great changes for V4! Exciting stuff 😃

I still feel we need one line from Palpatine though to help smooth over his change in target. I know it makes sense to us, but I feel a first time viewer would be slightly confused without the clarification.

How’s this?

“Long have I waited… for an heir to the Sith. The grandson of Vader was weak, but you are worthy, Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule here. It is in your blood, our blood.”

Jar Jar Bricks said:

• Maybe (big maybe) an AI Palpatine line in place of “For my grandchild to come home! I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here.”

How’s this?

(off-screen) “Long have I waited… I never wanted you dead, but now I need you here."

(Cut to Palpatine on-screen)

(back to off-screen) “I can feel your growing darkness (on-screen again) Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule, here. It is in your blood, our blood.”

Does this better help to establish that Palps wanted her dead, but now that he senses the darkness in her he’ll use her as his target instead?

As for the “She will come, her friends will follow.” comment, Palps knows they will bring the fight to home, so him telling Pryde to come to Exegol can be interpreted as him wanting to prepare his defenses.

I don’t know… thoughts?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

• Jannah AI voice to make it clear her company views Finn as their inspiration for rebelling

Finn: I never knew there were more.

Jannah: Deserters? All of us here were stormtroopers. We mutinied at the battle of Ansett Island. We followed what you did. They told us to fire on civilians. We wouldn’t do it. We laid our weapons down.

Finn: All of you?

Jannah: The whole company. One by one… I don’t even know how it happened. It wasn’t a decision, really, it was like…

Finn: An instinct. Feeling.

Jannah: A feeling.

Changing Jannah’s line a bit can give the implication that they weren’t all in the same squad nor deserted at the same time, but they each did what Finn did individually and have been building up their own First Order Refugee Camp with deserters.

If Disney really wanted to revive Star Wars, they should focus on popular side characters and stories (that are fresh and don’t require much prior knowledge):

Make MOVIES of (not shows)

• A Bounty Hunter Trilogy set during the time of the OT.
• “Jedi Origins: Yoda”, potentially turn it into a series
• “Brothers in Arms”, live action Clone Wars movie series focusing on a squad of troops, cameos from other Jedi
• “Mystery of the Sith”, Palpatine origins

Ya get the point LOL

As for the animated side of the house, and I have been saying this for YEARS!

• “Legacy of the Jedi”, a The Clone Wars 3d-style animated show focusing on Luke post-ROTJ with the main OT characters as supporting characters. The final season could include some flash-forwards to help better smooth over the sequel trilogy (like TCW did for the prequels)
• Make it a long running show if possible (7-8 full-length seasons), and straight up adapt stories/arcs from EU/Legends
• Give the OT characters some cameos if possible, but hire different voice actors so they don’t have to worry about de-aging voices

Vladius said:

Put it another way - imagine this show didn’t have the Star Wars name on it or even just that you haven’t seen an episode of any of the animated shows. Imagine you didn’t know who prequel Anakin was or that Hayden Christensen coming back was some major event. Would you still like it? Why?

Fair point. I think the biggest problem for some people more or less… is that the show cannot stand on it’s own. There is too much prior knowledge needed and key events and motivations are not explained within the show itself. But, it is a sequel after all!

But it does have those characters… so your argument isn’t really valid. The slower story is a welcome change. Not everything needs to be a rush to finish line.

rocknroll41 said:

Filoni is already on record saying that he sees the animated content as just fairy tale recounts, and that live action is “what actually happened.”

Besides, how does your logic explain why Ahsoka’s head tails were longer in Rebels? Or why she’s not wearing her tube-top outfit during the live-action recreations of the battles of Teth and Ryloth?

Filoni made a point to have Ahsoka’s outfit change from gray to white in live action. We now have 2 different outfits for Ahsoka in her show, and the NEW white one matches the end of Rebels, not the old gray one. Why go through that outfit change if it wasn’t in context to how Ahsoka appears at the end of Rebels? Ahsoka also has a spear at the end of Rebels as well. Where did she get this? The differences in Ahsoka’s appearance is too much to just assume it is the same scene we saw at the end of Rebels.

As for how Ahsoka physically looks, of course live action is going to look slightly different when it comes to head tails from a practical effect standpoint. As for the tube-top… Disney probably doesn’t want a child in that outfit running around in live action.

Hal 9000 said:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CiZMcU9NaKbyv2mMzegL1bgnkSqFlHRN/view?usp=share_link

Love it!

One more attempt though:

(off-screen) “Long have I waited, the last Skywalker failed my test."

(Cut to Palpatine on-screen)

(back to off-screen) “But now you have come, (on-screen again) Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule, here. It is in your blood, our blood.”

After today’s episode though… I am 100% confident Sabine will return without Ezra, finding out he escaped on his own. Sabine goes back to Lothal confused and upset, and Ahsoka and her part ways. There will be a time jump and Ahsoka will arrive again when she has a lead on Ezra.

These are NOT the same scene.

#AhoskaTheWhite
Different clothes and her staff. Filoni isn’t that dumb to mess up his own canon.

EDIT: Plus with Filoni being funny about when this scene takes place… I could see it being the closing scene of S1, setting the stage (with more context) for S2 or his movie.

Even simpler but made clearer…

Emperor Palpatine: “Long have I waited, for the strongest to rule, Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule here. It is in your blood. Our blood.”

I think this could work. Restore the line about her coming home, as Palps could have been hopeful that his bloodline was stronger than the Skywalker’s.

Emperor Palpatine: “Long have I waited, for my grandchild to come home! I never wanted you dead. I only wanted the strongest to rule, Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule here. It is in your blood. Our blood.”

Ooooo. I like that idea.

Fair enough! I was initially thinking of a way we could help clear up Palpatine changing his target from Kylo to Rey. But then that spawned a whole other idea down the rabbit hole.

Maybe if possible, still try to add a small line in the scene with Palp and Pryde to better clarify that he doesn’t want Rey dead now?

Palp: “…disrupted my plan… come to me on Exegol, General Pryde.”

Pryde: “As I served you in the old wars. I serve you now.”

Palp: “Spare the girl. The Final Order begins. She will come. Her friends will follow.”

Pryde: “Yes, my lord.”

Apologies for the incoming long post, but I was brainstorming and here are some ideas to help better sell Palpatine’s new plan in Ascendant. I think a lot of the original Palpatine lines can be restored and some others can be adjusted very slightly (if the AI voice is possible for Palps). I know this may be a little radical for V4 of this edit, but I think it could warrant a discussion given the new AI breakthroughs and the initial struggle of clearing up Palps plan for this edit:

RESTORE:

• Palpatine: “I have died before. The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be, unnatural.”

CHANGE:

• Palpatine: “The might of the Final Order will soon be ready. It will be yours if you do as I ask. Bring me the girl, end the Jedi and become what your grandfather Vader could not. Together, you will rule all the galaxy as the new emperors. But beware. She is not who you think she is.”

CHANGE:

• Kylo Ren: “Palpatine wants you dead.”
• Rey: “Serving another master?”

CHANGE (or potentially REMOVE SCENE):

• Palpatine: “Where is the girl? Perhaps you have betrayed me. Do not make me turn my fleet against you.”
• Kylo Ren: I know where she’s going. She’ll never be a Jedi.
• Palpatine: “Make sure of it. Bring her to me.”

CHANGE:

• Kylo Ren: “You know why the Emperor’s always wanted you dead.”
• Rey: “No.”
• Kylo Ren: “I’ll come tell you.”

CHANGE:

• "Rey: “Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill(take)a child? Tell me.”

RESTORE:

• Palpatine: “Long have I waited, for my grandchild to come home! I never wanted you dead. I wanted you here, Empress Palpatine.”

RESTORE:

• Palpatine: "Your hatred, your anger. You want to kill me. That is what I want. Kill me… and my spirit will pass into you. As all the Sith live in me… you will be Empress… we will be one.

Vader’s plan in the OT was never to kill Luke, but to turn him to the dark side for Palpatine, another TROS logic fail. But, I think if these few changes are able to be implemented it would definitely help clear up Palpatine’s plan and allow for some content to be restored.

Palp’s plan:

• Have Kylo bring Rey to him and turn her, so the Sith will be reborn with his bloodline. If Rey and Kylo don’t turn and try to kill him (which he assumes will be the end result), he will pass his spirit into one of them, preferably Kylo as he is already on the dark side. After Leia botches that option, he takes over turning Rey himself. Once Palps discovers the dyad and realizes he can use the two of them to restore himself, that is the final plan.

Kylo:

• Has more of a reason to side and work with Palpatine early on, he wants Rey to turn and join him to rule together (TLJ carry over), but he plans to defeat Palpatine with Rey together to remove him from the picture entirely (now that he is not aware of the spirit transfer). Palpatine is annoyed when Leia turns him back to the light. But is confident Rey will come to him anyways on her own so she can kill him and do the spirit transfer.

Rey’s struggle:

• Struggle with being a Jedi or join Ben in the dark side to rule… aka, a continuation from her arc from TLJ of “taking his hand and being together”. Rey decides to be a Jedi and makes the decision to kill the Emperor, but is shocked to find out that is what he wants, as Rey would never have the assumption that he wanted her dead, just that he was trying to get her for “reasons”.

I like the line, but the reading seems a little too high-pitched and doesn’t really match his cadence in the rest of the film.

Hal 9000 said:

Also, here’s the ancient text line in context. Sounds pretty good! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1au_fzjCMYIkOholtONUhSEokGnu2hqJX/view?usp=share_link

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I would nix “She still trained me.”

I’d agree, doesn’t really make sense in that context, does it? At that rate, the beginning of Luke’s next sentence needs to go too. I think it is a good concept, but we should just leave as is.

JEDIT: As much as the final lesson would be nice to include, I think the scene is more personal without it. And Luke’s 3 lessons were why the Jedi needed to end. He went back on that, no need for a lesson three or final lesson. And who knows, Luke may show up in the Rey movie as a force ghost to depart more wisdom, so it likely won’t be the final lesson in canon.

Luke: “What are you most afraid of?”

Rey: “Myself.”

Luke: “Because you’re a Palpatine? Leia struggled with her bloodline too.”

Rey: “She didn’t tell me.”

Luke: “Rey, final lesson, some things are stronger than blood…”

What if it isn’t the “dark” that Leia struggled with, but her bloodline and relation to Vader (which is canon I may add)? I think it makes Luke’s final lesson hit a LOT harder too.

Well, if we are revisiting it yet again, does this read better?

Luke:
“She was quick to learn in our training, but Leia was wary of the shadow that had turned our father. She felt she could better serve the galaxy through diplomacy, as our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again, by someone who would finish her journey.”

On the plus side, there is a big gap between sentences in the film. If you think of the scene without the flashback Luke and Rey are just awkwardly staring at Leia’s saber without speaking for a good 30 seconds. Maybe this fixes that LOL 😄

But overall, I love how we have it now and don’t think this is necessary dialogue to include.

I feel adding more to the line is overkill and not needed. Don’t need to turn Luke into Basil Exposition after all!

I think the whole Leia sending Ben away to train with Luke was explained enough as is in TFA and TLJ. Leia wasn’t a Jedi, Luke was. Leia sends Ben to get force help from a Jedi.

JEDIT: Plus, it makes Leia look like an even shittier mom knowing the darkness her son is struggling with and pawning him off on someone else.

RogueLeader said:

I honestly shut Star Wars edits mostly out of my mind when this stuff first started popping up because the possibilities were just too overwhelming.

For the sake of sanity… I think it would be wise for faneditors with pre-existing edits to ONLY revisit ideas that were like 98% completed towards what they wanted it to be, to help give it that extra 2% to complete their vision. And for any new edits, to only rely on AI voices to help implement a greater change elsewhere.

Otherwise, it’ll just be a crapshow where half a movie will be AI dialogue and it will lose the DNA that made it unique.

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you, it will.

Ahh gotcha. Sorry bout that!

Wasn’t the line: “But Leia felt…” ?