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#322788
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I didn't repeat any clips...

 

lol... that's how it is in the film :-p

 

ALthough in a way, it paints an interesting picture of their relationship... especially if you look at it in comparison to how he acts to Palpatine in ROTJ... a slave... a child...

 

The he could destroy us line only "SOUNDS" different becuase for some reason, there must have been two recordings of him doing the lines. One has an adjustment made to make it fit the sound of the old original recording of the dialogue... and the some of it sounds very raw ... and new... if I really wanted to waste the time, I'd make it all sound uniform in quality... but it can be done heh...

 

I also toyed with warbling the hologram a bit more... if you really watch it, it's harder to get a focus on it. It's only slight, but I felt it hightened it a lot better. Before, because the image was so frozen, it looks awkward. Now I think itlook s more "natural." As natural as a hologram can be...

I also tweaked the color mix to make it closer to what Ady is doing.

Its just my thoughts on the way to edit this without copying one of the other versions or someone elses edit...

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#322670
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Don't worry Ady... you've got the support of at least quite a few of us here...

 

And I DID realize it was a temp mix hehe... I just figured I'd say it NOW becuase it's not something most people are aware of. I'll trying to dig up all the information ont he score I can and compile it and where to find things so you can have an idea of where the best sources would be... (I would simply say use my edit but its up to you... I can always remix new things for you for this as well heh).

 

We all do appreciate you keeping us up to date and informed. I was curious though ady, have you tried looking up how much the processor would be on newegg.com ...I custom built my computer with parts through that website... it's a good place to go... quite a lot cheoper tahn usual sites and runs quite a few promos every once in a while too.

 

OH AND ADY! I meant to ask...

 

Did you mix "Probe Droid" in at the right spot for me?! lol :-p

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#322626
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I added that now... as well as double checking that I did indeed add the part about thelight on the falcon wiggling when 3P0 and Chewie hit it.

 

I'm watching the video now Ady... REALLY nice sounding so far (although it's in PAL!! grrr) lol

 

 

no no no no no no no...

I see that you used the SE to replace the music for the Main Title. You shouldn't do that. The SE is mixed incorrectly.

About half the score when they went to put it on the SE still had the Tomlinson original mixes intact...BUT... the otherhalf had to be remixed... it was remixed in a singular afternoon... Because of this, every track that was remixed is critically flawed.

The Sound Field is narrowed, and the HORNS are flipped... meaning things Like "Main Title" have horns flipped, tracks like "Hyperspace" have the strings too narrow... and the "Imperial March" lacks a lot of its depth and widness...

I'm soo glad you're cleaning up the music, but you can't use the SE... in all honesty... please don't.

 

If you'd like, I'll post a list of tracks you can use from the SE and tracks you cannot us as well as possible better sources or I can even send you some of mine... mix them especially for you seeing as this is a film and not an ablum, they should be mixed slightly different.

 

I think what you're doing sounds amazing though... it really does and I'm very pleased with the outcome. I'm not use to watching the film in PAL... it feels like it going along so much faster this way... although the music pitch shift makes me shiver lol :-p

And the film LOOKS very crisp. You say it's a low bitrate but it does look amazing. Are you useing an HD broadcast? I wasn't aware one had been done.

It looks great. I see you got rid of the pupetters arm in the attack... and left footprints in the snow...as well as adding a bit of motion blur to the taun taun.. nice... and the taun taun's subtle acting... that definately helps out a lot. It gives it just enough variety that it doesn't seem too stagnant.

All in all, a    VERY nice example of why we love you hehe

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ROTJ: Fan-O-Matic! 3 new clips!
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I commented on your youtube edit... lol...I'd recognize that music editing anywhere... You got it from my edit :-p

 

I'm glad you used the Lapti Nek music... it's kinda cool... it's like coming in half way through the song or something... very nice.

 

As for starting the film out that way... I don't know what to think... it all happens so fast... I mean... every other film has about a minute of nothing to open the film... just ships... ships landing... ships flying... but its interesting if not a bit... uncomfortable I guess the word is...

 

Not bad though... a very cool idea and nice to see if fleshed out.

 

It was mentioned that the radio dramas can be downloaded somewhere. I know I have Empire somewhere... and I THINK ANH... but I don't think I have ROTJ... that would be a cool thing to have...

 

As far as thoughts... I'll have to get back to you on that... still a bit focused on Ady's ESB edit lol

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#322526
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I personally didn't add that because as stated... it's a swamp... a bog... the ground will do that... plus I figured it would be a lot of work for little pay off... but I'll add it if it'll appease people...

 

I mean, I live in florida. I've walked around swamps and stuff... and thats exactly what its like... you step and almost fall... sometimes the mud on the bottom of the water can look one level. You step and you sing 3 feet... and then get bitten by something... it's... unpleasant...

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#322480
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Wanted: HD Jurassic Park - for an edit...
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Hey all...

 

So I was watching The Lost World on tv last night and I noticed something.

 

I had known that the TV version had the deleted scenes from the DVD mixed in... and I had noticed that the scenes had been cleaned up... and their sound fields perfected as those on the DVD were work prints and not final SFX...

 

But I also noticed changes latter in the film. Due to the placement of commercials, at the end of the Trailer sequence the final part of the music is mixed in earlier so it can go to credits... and so that the shot when it returns from the credits (which normally would have music) lacks it.

 

Also, certain lines are mixed in better and certain SFX are more present... it's amazing what I had NEVER heard in the film before...

 

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I had mentioned before asking if anyone has recorded Jurassic Park from the TV because it was obviously a new transfer. I know that TNT speeds up the film by about 2-4 %, but keeps the original pitch... so the music will warble in and out of tune at times... and scenes will FEEL faster. I dunno if they mixed things differently in that version or not, but it would be AMAZING if someone managed to capture either of these digitally.

 

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#322478
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you pretty much repeated what I said.. lol...

 

Voices are genetic... accents are not. But usually accents are fully developed into a person by that age... unless they're trying consciously to remove it. I had a brittish accent as a child... but I was born in Florida and NO ONE has that accent in my family... I eventually lost most inklings of it... but I still have trouble saying certain words and have a preference to saying words with an english twist. Like, it's not a-dult... it's Ah-dult... I don't say gair-age though lol

 

It's hard to say. You could argue either way... without knowing the history of Boba, I would say that he was close to his father, and that wouldn't want to remove himself from his father by getting rid of his accent. But we could create a whole story line for why he changes it... lol

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#322429
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Let me explain... when I say mixing the voices... I should really say "taking the new recording and making it sound like the old but adding some 'electronic' sound to it.

I havn't mixed the recordings... but now that you mention it, that can work too after some modifications...

 

I guess my point is to maybe show that there is a third... middle ground. It's not like we're redubbing an ENTIRE film... just a few lines.. and ADY had to redo the sound field for ANH anyway lol...

 

Just saying if maybe we can take the new lines... maybe toy with them a bit... get them to sound like the old... or mix them slightly... I think maybe we can find a middle ground... that'll both keep cannon, but also appease the crowd lol

 

I mean, I can see the reasons people want both... but this kidna helps fulfill all reasons...

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#322416
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all of which have been noted in the corrections thread ;-)

 

And no... I mean what I said... he listened too much to McCallum who would say "Is it about Anakin? No. Cut it." Having come from TV, he knew how to stream line... and because of the streamlining, we LOST a ton of material from mostly Episode II... Padme's story... more about their love. Same with III.. .but lets reserve that for another talk as it COMPLETELY ignores the reason I said it.

 

"Too many cooks in a kitchen" is a better way to put it.

 

I'm still toying with making the new Boba voice more like the old one... pretty much pitch shifting and stretching and doing a bit of changing inflection too lol... it's coming out alright seeing as I just am playing with it and am just toying with it. In essence it's proving that it can be done.

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#322400
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Guys, about the changes list... no need to double and triple post. No offence, but I do have a life... so It may take me a day to catch up, but do realize I will add it.

 

 

 

I think this should also be said:

 

We have to realize that the bottom line of this edit is that it is Adywan's edit. He will do what he feels is right... and SHOULD ONLY do what he feels is right. I honeslty have always felt that the PT suffered because Lucas didn't do what he wanted. He let others guide him too much... people he trusted and shoudln't have.

 

That ahving been said, Lets try to compromize here shall we?

 

Here are some options:

 

1) Trying to mix the voices.

2) Trying to replicate the sound of the original with the new version.

3) Keeing the new voice

4) Reinstating the original.

 

Now lets talk a bit about what would define this guys voice. We barely hear the Jango speak with helmet on in AOTC. That having been said, look at how much the helmet changed Leia's voice in Jedi (Bosch). It changed it from Carrie Fisher to literally the lady who did ET's voice lol...

 

Meaning that we could STILL have the original voice and say "it's modified becuase of the helmet."

 

Also, voices, I hate to correct whoever said this...ARE genetic. Seeing as vocal chords are created by our genes, and those truly are what affect our sound, in a way it IS genetic. On top of that, it can also be influenced by our upbringing. Accents aren't genetic lol.

 

But, seeing as Boba grew up around Jango at least till what looks to be the age of 9.. its safe to say he'd have a similar accent AND similar sound.

 

That is, of course, if you're taking the prequels into mind. I personalyl hope that Adywan will go back and Redo the Prequels after these edits... so I kinda consider them to be all together.

 

Now... the way they got Boba in the OT to sound is some voice modifications... if I'm able to play with the voices... would you all be willing to listen and concede which way might be a good idea?

 

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Tie fighters... the colors... who would believe this?

 

I personally think the military, light blue/grey to be the color. Not deep blue like Vader's Starship, and not white like the originals.

I'm sorry to say this ady, but maybe you should have made the ties this same color in your ANH edit? ... but... with that already behind you... I would say that any blue to the fighters should be very light... So the fighters still have the blue, but aren't as light as they are in ANH.

Dark blue is simply out of the question... and having them all different colors... I just think that it's a little bit nearsighted as the empire is MEANT to be a personification of...well... robots. Non sentience. A Factory look and feel. Not organic or human. That being said, the colors of the fighters SHOULD remain constant.

 

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Lets talk a little about film first, shall we?

 

Paint in film is a particularly funny thing. In Jurassic Park, you'd be hard pressed to find a screen cap of a raptor that looks anything buy brown:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/BrachioInGen/velociraptor.jpg

but let me assure you now... every animatronic raptor was fully painted like this

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/BrachioInGen/Raptor2.jpg

 

That's the thing about film... the way something is painted and how we see it IRL... is NOT...almost ever... how it appears in the film.

 

That's why movie sets always seem a bit off... it's becuase they are painted slightly off so that the filter... the lighting...whatever it may be... will show off the CORRECT color.

 

Now, these fighters are painted blue... which seems like an absurd thing to do when you're blue screening them, especially when Grey would totally work..

 

But they are painted this way for a reason... so that once blue screened... they stillstick out and have a light blue/grey look..

 

I for one think that as long as they are the ALL are the same color and are not ANH color, or close to Vaders ship, then that is the perfect color... Your color is fine by me Ady

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#322251
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I came along in the 90's as a star wars fan (was born late 80's) so when the SE's came out, that's what I'm use to... although I will admit, I enjoyed watching the ORIGINALS on VHS... I loved Return of the Jedi ... lol... didn't EVER watch Empire...and A New Hope was a good stand alone film. heh

 

I liked the cover art for ROTJ heh...

Where I'm going with this is I was use to the micromachine Tie fighter, which was about that color as well. If I had to say a paint color, I'd say "Gunship Grey with a bit of white added to lighten it." I once was painting a model of the USS Voyager, and that was the grey I used... and it's that sort of blueish grey... it can look both colors depending on the lighting...

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#322220
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Gosh... I'm gone a few days and you all have... DELUSIONS of grandeur! lol

 

Anywho... Let me say this...

 

As... auditorially sound as I am... right now my JOB is selling sunglasses (and might I add I do that QUITE WELL)... so Let me talk a minute about the type of tintings available, usages, and reasons.

 

Most lenses these days come with UV protection. UV protection IS NOT...let me say this again... IS NOT TINTED. In fact, UV proction is completely clear. So technically, you can have clear lenses.. and STILL be UV protected.

That having been said, there are several different types of lenses, coatins, colors...all have different suggested usages.

 

True Black- Used for people who ahve eye surgery. Old people wear them too. Not to be worn while driving or while at night (sometimes old people WILL need to wear things at night becuase of the brightness of car headlights (especially now with those really bright ones). Incidentally, the tint of the X-Wings looks like this...

Ray Ban Green Lens - I put this next as its truly darker than most other lenses. The green will cancel out a lot of the light but also won't disable you.

Black lens - Use to not change contrast or highten anything. Simply for cutting down on brightness.

Brown/Bronze lenses are suggested in twilight. They heighten greens and light, while still taking the edge of brightness. They have HIGH contrast.

Rose - Used for people who need contrast, but must have a darker lens thank clear or yellow. This cuts down on a lot of light, but still not being too much light. Gives a lot of contrast to light/dark and used especially in golfing.

Pink - Cuts down on light. A variant of the Rose/Yellow but is brighter like the yellow.

Yellow- Yellow lenses work in a way to truly bring out contrast between light/dark, and also to give greater depth detail to changes in the road ahead such as hight, grass, pebbles...etc. They are most commonly used in sking or biking or running. Any time where small imprections in the road can be disastrous. Used most notably in snow. The tint of the Speeder pilots eye protection is like this.

Clear - Used for night time or for motorcyclists who don't want any tinting. It does, as stated, offer UV protection (and protection in general as Motorcyclists don't have windshileds so it will protect the eyes from bugs--especially if they're the Oakley lenses which are all impact tested and do not shatter).

 

A mirrored finish will also help cut down on light by reflecting non-essential light back out.

 

Polorization is also something that is truly recomended in conditions like that of Hoths. It would cut down on glare from the snow and would help give a crisp image. I dunno if you all played with glass in science that was like this. If you took two, and layered them, the image would be the same, maybe slightly darker... but when turned, the image went black...

 

Maybe the cockpit for the XWings is polarized and maybe it could simply be coming out too dark in the film... how possible is it to lighten just the windows in the external shots?

 

I don't think they polorize anything that big though... nothing with that much curve as if you turn your head, it'll cancel itself out and the screen'll go black if lined up a certain way.

 

So if I may suggest, if ANYTHING...the colior would be a ROSE... not a DEEP red... but like a rose... If not that... black. Maybe a mirroed finish as well. Possibly even a Brown color as that is more of an All Purpose Color and these are All Purpose craft.

 

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That informercial out of the way... lol

 

I like the idea of changing a bit of the explosion of the power genearator. I'm sure you could find some way to incorporate another explosion. What might also be cool would be to have a sort of Ring come out (similar to the death star explosion) but maybe you could also noate it with a sfx...

I say this because I remember once as a child seeing/hearing a transformer explode across the canal from my house. It was an impressive sight... and when it did boom, I remember clearly it giving off a bluish ring which in the middle of the night, with dark, cloudy/rainy night, was hightened by the clouds. So maybe even a faint light with a low rumble with an electric zap could be cool... at least more "real"

 

And let me kinda quantify what I mean by ring... the myth busters came to UF and played a video they called "Explosion Porn" and in it, they show a shot from this episode... Its near the middle:

 

Near the Middle

Kinda what I think... maybe if you can get this in good quality, you can color correct it and use IT as the explosion?? heh

It's not so much a RING...as it's kinda like an area of air disturbance which creates a slight occular effect of warping the image being seen.

 

It would go Explosion (fire). the ground would almsot instantly, rushing out, have vibrations that would kick up snow.

Then the image would go blurry going out... and then Smoke/Snow would RUSH up...replacing all the fire.

 

As far as adding any more AT-AT's...what you had int eh video I think was the perfect amoung Ady... AT-St's would be the only thing I'd say if you could add, do.

 

When I mentioned Geonosis, I simply meant in that sort of look.

 

The battle on Hoth is , yes, a diversion, but don't forget, the Emperor is displeased with Vader... they've lost the Death Star. Any chance they have to wipe out and crush the rebellion, they WILL take...

 

If I may further explain:

 

HOW I SEE BATTLE OF HOTH-

 

The first change would be to change how many star destroyers are in the blockade as it the "first catch of the day" leave. Both in the establishing shot, and a moment latter out the con window

I hate and LOVE that the music doesn't start as planned, but maybe you could reincorporate just a FEW seconds of the opening of the cue. Don't start it when it was planned to start... but the first binocular shot of the foot hitting the ground could be notated by the brooom BOOm, brooom boom-boom of the opening of the cue... fade it out slightly... let it be a bit mysterious as we see R2 get bonked by snow... then it comes in full force when it does normally.

Resyncing the guy calling in that the walkers could be seen. His line doesn't quite sync to his mouth.

 

The last shot of the speeders leaving, the last speeder to pull out, briefly you can see the support the "car" is on and the wire pulling it.

The next shot shows off the red lights on the lead walker. This may have been meant to kinda highten the reality... make it seem like (being also the closest) that you can not only see it, but somewhat into it... like how on Star Trek Voyager, befor the CG cross over, the model shots had certain windows have actual pictures of the set in them to make it seem more "real."

My only real suggestion in that is even if you have to make it NOT red... if you can find a way to still show movement, that might be a good idea. But if you can incorporate AT-ST's, then that'll be better as that'll really show off movement, and you won't ahve to show movement in the window. Just have it be silvery if you can.

 

The shot of the speeders heading towards the front line has absolutely no rebels firing. You have two good shots of the turrets moving, but NOT firing... maybe you could have them start...

 

As stated before, it woudln't make sense to have the speeders flying straight at the AT-AT's... but if the Turrets are laying down cover fire... maybe it would work better.

 

The guys who say "come on!" and go running... if I'm not mistaken... they have a special gun meant to penetrate the shileding on the walkers... I dunno how you could fix it so that they are the ones blowing up the walker.

 

If you're adding in a turret for the explosion scene, don't forget outside of Pietts AT-AT there is a shot of the generator that lacks it as well.

 

I then wonder, how did the command center get hit? Was it like one of the Star Destroyers bomb it or did an AT-AT fire at it... maybe something earlier during a lot of the explosion shots showing a hint of a large boom in the background. Then imperial troops enter the base. How'd they get there? Perhaps something in the background of a shot alluding to it too.

 

Also, the shot of the troops evacuating, you see a single Speeder fly overhead... perhaps showing a second one as well, or a third damaged one... I say this becuase the shots are so strong, and the music is getting so epic that mass chaos and panic might help heighten that shot too.

 

The jump shot of course.

The falcon's shadow, I THINK should be on the lower part of the mountain range.. .almost out of sight... if I'm judgeing the lighting right...

 

The shot as Luke flys away should probably have some Star Destroyers in it... but their angle should be high if you have shots like that... almost looking DOWN at them. If you look at the planet anyway, it looks like Luke flys "north" really and then leaves the atmosphere... the blockade probably being equatorial... maybe even show some small firing in the background... simliar to what the emperor sees out his window inROTJ in the distance signifying that people are still escaping and dealing with the EMpire and it wasn't a complete escape...

 

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The three star destroyers shields flickering off of eachother.

 

Maybe a longer shot/more tie fighters persuing the Falcon...

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Thats kinda how I see it... I think that it doesn't need much... but if you can do subtle things... I think it'll amp it up a TON...

 

 

 

 

 

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I kinda agree with Darth Stewie...

 

Think of the Emotional High that we ended STAR WARS with...

 

To then, in the next film, be pushed into utter despair in the first 30 minutes I think would be an amazing thing... it would darken the film...

 

Maybe if, like he mentions, have laser bolts just firing everywhere... almost like in the battle of Geonosis....

 

And maybe if you could find a way to incorporate AT-ST's, it would be BRILLIANT to somehow show the sheer speed of THOSE compared to the AT-AT's... yes you have a few AT-AT's... but if you had a bunch plundering about, constantly firing...a nd AT-ST's walking around, firing a metric ton...

 

Even perhaps speeding UP the walkers ever so slightly... if you could speed up the movement, and slow down the step... FAAAST boom (slow)... faaaast (boom) slow.. It could give a bit more dynamic.

 

I think THAT'S what the scene could use is dynmaic.

 

I'd mentioned before that the Rebels have thos ebig guns and turrets but you barely see them fire... perhaps seeing more of that..