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#309404
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Help Needed & Feedback Wanted: STAR WARS - Symphony for a Saga
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309404/action/topic#309404
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it widened and cleared up the sound...creating a fake 5.1 downmix that emulates an actual one.

I know it doesn't sound like much, but for someone like me who... when listening to music, and being a violist, I want to feel as if I'm there... within the orchestra... playing along... or at least... there... feeling the emotion... the electric feel of the room..

and anything that helps create that sense of reality, I love... and this I believe helps that.
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#309290
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Tusken Raiders on mars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309290/action/topic#309290
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I don't want to jump to any conclusions though.

If you look at the shadows, you can tell that the sun must be almost straight up... or slightly further away from the camera...

If you look at the shadows on the "person," they exactly match how, a person at that time of day, would have shadows. One in the armpit. One along the leg, showing that the "gloved hand" is actually above it, and one under the butt, showing that it's blocking out sun.

So even if it is a rock, it is in the shape we are seeing.

the only strange thing seems to be the scale... but you'd have to see the full scale image to see how miniscule it is. It's almost behind the rover really... but if you follow the ridge in the main picture, you can see that if these were people, they would be at the bottom of a steep ridge which then slopes up slightly into the rocky out cropping they seem to be hiding behind.

I say they because if you look in the pic I posted, there looks to be 3.

One poking its head up between rocks like a Jawa on the left, the one walking in the middle, and one that's leaning over an outcroping just right of it... in a stance that almost is similar to someone with a gun... with something protruding back over the ledge... which is casting a shadow correctly btw... and seems to be the same color as the "glove" of the one walking...


yeaa......

I need to stop analyzing this and go to bed lol
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#308997
Topic
Info: When does fullscreen show more than widescreen?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308997/action/topic#308997
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Jurassic Park, surprisingly, is like this as well. You can really tell as they enter the rotunda for the first time. We used the Widescreen for a long time for a reconstruction we're doing, but then saw that the full screen showed more of the ceiling and of the dome and windows, which were in question at the time, and so we used that.

HOWEVER, sequences that used CG didn't have that extra. To save on time and space, they simply imported the widescreen image into the computer for the CG sequences... so sequences with animals in them, you get a cropped wide screen. Images without animals, you would get more of the top and bottom of the image.

Which, I'd imagine, is probably the case with some of the other movies mentioned as well.
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#308655
Topic
Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308655/action/topic#308655
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I'm so excited by this lol! I didn't know any of this and I vaguely remember watching it years ago... and come to think of it... we taped it too I think... I could check but it sounds like you guys have found most everything...

I thought I was the only one who knew about this movie! I show it to all my friends at christmas and they look at me like they're crazy...

My sister in law saw it and was like "you must be your brothers brother because only you all would have seen that!"


I Got it on DVD when I found it and it has these HILARIOUS outtakes... lol... I love it...

I've actually been tempted to rip the songs from this and create an album of it because I've never seen one before... and I like the songs...

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#308552
Topic
Star Wars Prequels/Original Trilogy: The Complete Scores (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308552/action/topic#308552
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hehe... Glad you like it.I did my best to limit the echo.

As far as the source cues, they were written by Joseph Williams. Lapti Nek was written by him, Yub Nub, The source cues from Episode II, the two variants of the Dex's Diner music... and I think that's it... although I'm not sure who did the source for the Opera house in Episode III. My guess is Joseph Williams, John Williams son.

Who, btw, is the singing voice for the adult Simba in The Lion King strangely enough... even though Mathew Brodrick is quite the accomplished singer lol...
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#308499
Topic
Star Wars Prequels/Original Trilogy: The Complete Scores (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308499/action/topic#308499
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Originally posted by: elvisjones
Blaming McCallum and Burtt for these things is a little unfair to both of them - Things get changed in movies ALL THE TIME even when McCallum and Burtt AREN'T working on them -.....
Anyhow, 'nuff of my rambling...go listen to some star wars music - hahaha


It was kinda a joke... but at the same time... from what we do know, the biggest problems with everything in the Prequels and the SE were ideas from these two. so there you go.

And you didn't say anything we don't already know. I don't mean to be rude but it's true. We all understand that.

But at the same time, there is a trade off. If you edit something to the point that it's no longer recognizeable after you've had someone redo something 4 times, you'd get pissed off too.


And Williams composing music is not really like an actor. An actor is trying to portray something the director wants. The Composer is brought in to bring a different take on what the Director wants but still capture the essence of the Directors ideas.

It's also different in that it takes a lot more time, effort, and money to do what Williams does than it takes for Haydn to say he's the most powerful Jedi ever...
I believe in Editing... Some of the best sequences in film are edits of cues... the final chase sequence of ET with the kids on the Bikes...

ET being introduced to Elliots Toys is TRACKED music... it's NOT the original cue... but it works perfectly.


So I believe in the power of editing... but what they're doing is suicide ....:-p


But yes... lets not get into this as that's NOT what this thread is about... there are many other threads for you to voice your concern.


EDIT: Just wanted to let you all know that there is a surprise coming within the next week. Another score edit I've finished.
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#308457
Topic
Star Wars Prologue - Epic Prequel Edit (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308457/action/topic#308457
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I would love to hear/see some of this...

You say your using the raw soundtracks... I was curious if you'd see/hear my complete score edits.

Episode I is the complete score. You'd be free to do as you pleased with that. Episdoe II unforatunately is mostly just the album with DVD rip, so it wouldn't be clean enough to use...

Episode III's complete score edit has a lot more clean material to use as well..

I also offer my edits to Episode III up as an example of what could be done to remove a lot of extranious parts and to preserve continuity...

you can view them here along with edits of sequences like The Arena with how it would be with the music and such...

www.youtube.com/BrachioInGen

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#308451
Topic
Star Wars Prequels/Original Trilogy: The Complete Scores (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308451/action/topic#308451
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Originally posted by: gallandro
Okay, I'll bite!

Great work! GoodMusician you have done a tremendous service to the Star Wars and JW fan communities. This is an awesome collection of some of Williams best music from the Saga, including some bits of music I never even knew saw the light of day. Minimal intrusion by dialog or sfx.

I can't recommend this set enough. It is THE definitive collection of music from AOTC (at least until Lucasfilm and Sony get off their butts).

One negative thing though, this collection has only reinforced my intense dislike of Ben Burtt's "creative" input in the Prequels. He really seemed to have some issue with Williams' music and was constantly trying to undermine its importance in the trilogy vs. the sound effects. All you have to do is watch the "Making Of" documentary on Revenge of the Sith DVD. Burtt lobbies to bury the music during the climactic lightsaber fight between Anakin and Kenobi with louder and louder sound effects... utter genius Ben... THE pivitol moment of the entire Star Wars Saga lost in a cacophony of twisting metal and lava flow... pure unadulterated genius.


Yancy



That's not a negative!

I kinda intended it actually... the whole "Arena Source" ...I'll tell you all a little secret. I purposely didn't just put source in it. I included more than just the percussion. If you listen, I included all the crowd noises just to show how much work he put into The Arena compared to Williams.

Burtt used the same 4-5 crowd reactions, and simply pitched them up or down, or changed the speed. Some of them sound like a crowd of chipmunks!

Thanks for that Ben Burtt. I don't know what I'd do without you...


I actually made a joke with someone that the two biggest mistakes of the prequels and the special editions were Ben Burtt and Rick McCallum.

Rick saying into Lucas' ear "Is it about Anakin?! THEN CUT IT!" so that we don't see Padme in Episode III except when she dies... the very reason he becomes Vader and we barely see her...

Then you have Ben Burtt who edits the crap out of everything and speaks crazy ideas towards lucas and somehow still manages to improperly mix DVD's.

aka: the rear channels being flipped in the SE of ANH, Rebel Fanfare being removed from ANH.. I mean dialed out to the point where you can barely hear it (aka: not present but the SFX ARE!), suggesting no music for the arena, helping to edit the final battle of Episode I, asking the music be quieter in Episode III, trying to "compose" sfx/percussion for "On the Conveyor Belt" to replace Williams, always using an Elephant noise in everything he does... the list goes on and on!

So ... I decided that

"Hencefourth... they shall be known as...

Jar Jar Burtt

and

Emperor McPalpatine


Glad you guys like the set and so highly recommend it hehe... I'm anxious to hear further reviews... just becuase I know you guys appreciate it... there are other forums where reviews consist of really harsh words ...and Its why I sometimes feel my efforts go under appreciated...

Thank you all for enjoying my sets for what they are...
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#308379
Topic
Star Wars Prequels/Original Trilogy: The Complete Scores (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308379/action/topic#308379
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STAR WARS EPISODE II: The Complete Score Edit

[3:22:22]

Disc 1 - (1:05:55)

01) Fox Fanfare (ESB Recording) - [0:22]
02) Main Title (TPM Recording) - [1:32]
03) Arrival at Coruscant - [0:19]
04) Ambush on the Landing Platform - [2:16]
05) The Security Council - [2:41]
06) Old Friends - Annie- [1:37]
07) The Nightshift Begins - [0:54]
08) Setting the Trap - [2:51]
09) Chase Through Coruscant - [11:49]
10) Executive Orders and Obi Wans Concern - [1:38]
11) Going into Hiding - [2:46]
12) Departing Coruscant - [1:42]
13) Jedi Archives - [1:21]
14) Yoda and the Younglings - [4:00]
15) Audience on Naboo - [2:26]
16) Arrival at Kamino (Film Alternate) - [1:44]
17) The Army of the Republic (Film Ending) - [0:51]
18) Glass Sculptures - Forbidden Kiss - [2:18]
19) Inspecting the Army - [1:52]
20) The Meadow Picnic - [2:32]
21) Interview with Jango - [2:50]
22) Anakin and Padme - [3:59]
23) Making Contact - Dreams (Film)- [2:45]
24) Tatooine Resolution (Tracked) - [1:36]
25) Jango's Escape - Arrival at Tatooine - [3:46]
26) Meeting Watto - [0:54]
27) Bounty Hunter Pursuit - Arrival at Geonosis - [2:21]

Disc 2 - (1:08:38)

01) The Lars Homestead - Searching for Shmi - Spying on the Separatists - [6:54]
02) Tuskan Camp - Return to the Homestead (Film)- [5:52]
03) Anakin's Confession - [2:38]
04) Shmi's Funeral - To Geonosis - [3:46]
05) A Crisis - [0:58]
06) Dooku's Offer (Tracked) - [1:24]
07) Emergency Powers - [1:52]
08) Arrival at Geonosis (Tracked) - [1:38]
09) The Droids Confer - [0:36]
10) On the Conveyor Belt - [3:05]
11) Captured - [0:39]
12) Love Pledge - [2:39]
13) The Arena - [4:28]
14) Battle for Geonosis I (Tracked) - [2:17]
15) Battle for Geonosis II (Tracked) - [3:32]
16) Battle for Geonosis III (Tracked) - [1:38]
17) Battle for Geonosis IV (Tracked) - [1:55]
18) The Ultimate Weapon (Tracked) - [0:51]
19) Dooku's Escape (Tracked) - [1:28]
20) Going After Dooku (Film Alternate) - [2:20]
21) Confronting Dooku (Original) - [2:14]
22) Yoda Vs Dooku (Original) - [2:28]
23) The Clone Wars - Finale - [5:16]
24) End Credits (Album Intro) - [0:53]
25) Across the Stars (Album) - [5:32]
26) End Credits (Extended Album Alternate) - [1:34


Disc 3 - (1:08:13)

01) Fox Fanfare (1999 Recording) - [0:21]
02) Attack of the Clones- Music Video - [4:34]
03) Across the Stars (Intro) - [0:38]
04) Across the Stars (Musical Journey) - [5:27]
05) Dex's Diner (Available Source) - [1:50]
06) Dex's Diner (Film Version Source) - [1:16]
07) Arrival at Kamino (Album Alternate) - [1:33]
08) Making Contact - Dreams (Album Orchestration) - [2:45]
09) Tusken Camp - Return to the Homestead (Album Orchestration) - [5:52]
10) Arena Source (Ben Burtt) - [2:39]
11) Going After Dooku (Album Alternate) - [2:16]
12) Confronting Dooku (Film Edit) - [1:17]
13) The Jedi Fall (Film Edit) - [1:10]
14) Yoda Vs. Dooku - Finale (Film Edit) - [3:42]
15) The Clone Wars -Finale - End Credits (Suite) - [11:13]
15) The Story of Attack of the Clones - [15:13]
16) Film End Credits Suite - [6:20]


My FTP

Currently Only Episode II is available. Disc 1 and Disc 2 are up. Disc 3 is almost up. I will start uploading all my other edits again in case anyone missed them.