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Absolutely epic, can’t wait, mostly for ROTS.

StarkillerAG said:

Uh, these edits were released 15 years ago already. I don’t even know if there are any working links anymore.

Oh wow, ok I’m stupid lol. This was the most recent thread at the time. I apologize.

I like some of your ideas here. I’m interested in seeing your version of Vader’s no. I’m not sure why you’re removing Palpatine saying he’s weak though. He’s not actually (as shown when he immediately uses force lightning after Mace’s hand is chopped off), it’s his way of manipulating Anakin into helping him. Him appearing helpless is key in Anakin’s decision to stop Mace, as it’s against the Jedi way to kill an unarmed man. Mace’s hypocrisy to the code that has emotionally enslaved Anakin for years is the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

Besides the 5 listed on the first post do you know of any other changes from the SD version?

Knight of Kalee said:

As a concept, I’m totally on board with it 😄
I think Palpatine’s lines are still a tad too low (though easy to understand 😃 ). The rotoscoping for the medical droid is nice but to me it looks a bit clear it’s a slowed down shot.

The audio is good for me. The one transition that felt a bit strange was from Padmé’s gasping to Palpatine’s weird breath thing, perhaps because of there’s a sudden increase in volume at that point.

Other than that, this was surprisingly solid! Nice job!

PD: Here’s a cleaner version of that same Vader scream, it’s the french dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGkPvfpjVY

Yeah, I’m going to fix the problem with Palpatine’s lines. Thanks regarding the rotoscoping, I spent hours on it so I’m glad to see it’s not gone unrecognized. It does bother me that it’s clearly slowed down but I’m not sure what I’d do about that, it’s literally the only usable shot of the 21B in existence (unless I want it facing backwards away from the camera).

Hmmmm, I’m not really sure what I’d do about the increase in volume, as it goes from playing one sound effect to three. Maybe I could try some more fades or turning down the volume on one.

Thanks, I’ve been kinda stressing about trying to perfect it, as unrealistic of a goal it might be I don’t want it to stick out like a sore thumb. I really hope I can make something fluent that a lot of people like.

I was actually aware of that. The problem is though is that the original version of the French dub doesn’t sound like Vader, it just sounds like a regular dude. The edit I linked earlier they did something to make it sound like Vader which I really like, I just don’t know how to replicate it.

The Russian dub sounds pretty good, so I may use that. It sounds more like a scream of anguish then a no, which I like. I’d rather have that or a Vader-ified French one in which the NOOOOO sounds more painful and natural as in my opinion, it’s not so much the line as it is the delivery.

Knight of Kalee said:

Is there any chance you could change Vader’s ‘NO!’ with a foreign dub?

Hmmmmm, which one would you recommend? I tried using this one which I really liked but I couldn’t separate it from the baby cries.

https://youtu.be/8Krtzj0SX-Q?t=205

Other then that, what do you think of the scene? Do you think it’s ready to be in the film?

Second draft of ROTS new Padme death/Vader birth. Improved the rotoscoping on the 21B droid, made Palps louder and added some more sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czaaVtZFSFA

May I have the links to the darthrush and Spence final edit’s of Return of the Jedi please, if anyone can help me with that?

First draft of Padme’s new death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCHuthekU04

Feedback is very much appreciated (though I have already noticed that Palpatine’s line are a little too quiet, so I have remedied that in my editing program; so no need to comment on it).

WitchDR said:

Sweet! Yeah I just read thorough your SW 6 film edit and am excited to see where that goes as well. Always nice to see edits of ANH include the Scene 38 recreation. Also really intrigued to see how the Jar Jar dub is pulled off in full movie length.

Definitely want to see you get the SW one done, since I’m a bigger SW fan lol. But cant wait to see what you can pull off with this project, since I feel the Heisei series as a lot of potential to be something really great, if tweaked a bit.

You said you did an edit of 54? Can I get a PM of that? Would love to check it out!

Epic, I’m glad you agree with me about Scene 38. I love how it does Darth Vader justice. The new Vader comics show him to be incredibly powerful and the best lightsaber duelist ever, and the films should be consistent with that IMO. And my Phantom Menace edit is already done, so it technically already has been pulled off.

Do you have any suggestions for either the Star Wars or Heisei edits? You seem very hyped for them and I always love to hear suggestions and feedback. If you have something in mind I’d like to address it.

Yes, my edit of 54 is called “This is Tokyo”. It combines the original Japanese version with the American version. There’s a thread here about it. I’ll PM you the link, as well as the link for the Star Wars edits.

WitchDR said:

Any update on this? The Heisei series is my all time favorite, and this full on fanedit sounds incredible. Cutting the first two movies together especially, since I also find the first one to be a drag to watch through on a marathon.

I’m glad to see that you think it sounds great. It’s always nice to see that some are excited for a project, it greatly improves my morale to actually see to it that it gets done.

Admittedly I haven’t been working on this much as I’ve been focusing more on other projects (my dinosaur documentary project and my Star Wars edits), but once I’m done with my Revenge of the Sith edit then I’ll start working on this.

I have been starting to doubt whether I’ll actually be able to effectively combine Return of Godzilla and Biollante, as it will mess with continuity quite a bit. Maybe instead of combining them in a way that makes it seem like they’re happening at the same time (as I originally thought), I’ll edit it so a heavily cut-down 84 acts as like a prologue at the beginning (there is something like that in the actual opening of Biollante but this one would be more expansive), still taking place 5 years before. Godzilla would still look different but not really much I can do about that.

I may also offer two options: one edit of 84 and Biollante combined into one film and another option in which they are still separate movies. I will trim down 84 to pick up the pace (and probably even add the American scenes of Raymond Burr like I did with my 54 edit, because Steve Martin is awesome), and have a separate Biollante fan-edit that still makes a lot of the changes I was going to for that movie:

-Cut the scene where Gondo talks about the prime minister not believing the psychic children. There’s literally an institute designated for psychic children and the prime minister doesn’t even believe they exist?
-Cut the scene where Kirishima and Azuka talk about making the bacteria at night time. This scene really doesn’t give us any new information and I feel like the first half of this movie takes too long to get started.
-Cut the part where Miki draws Rose Biollante. It ruins any suspense and surprise of seeing Biollante for the first time.
-Cut all of the scenes that split the battle between Godzilla and the Super X II, removing that terrible shot of Godzilla’s head rising from the water, removing excess fat, and not stopping the momentum of the film.
-The scene where Doctor Shiragami talks to the news woman and when he, Miki, and Azuka realize Erika is no longer in Biollante is moved after the battle with Godzilla and the Super X II.
-After Miki says “Biollante was calling out to Godzilla!” it cuts to the shot of Godzilla walking to Lake Ashi at night with added sound effects, as the music playing during the clip is continued from the scene that I cut below.
-As a result, the scene of the military getting into position before the first fight is removed.
-Cut the two times Godzilla completely misses Biollante by a long shot with his atomic breath near the end of the fight. Like seriously, it’s as if he intentionally missed! What’s the point?
-Cut the scene with the helicopters after the first fight.
-Cut the entire subplot of “We sent everything to Isle Bay and Godzilla actually appeared in Osaka!” as it just convoluted the film. It doesn’t even need to exist for the plot to make sense, and it takes focus away from the much more interesting subplot of Miki trying to change Godzilla’s direction with her telepathy.
-Cut the part where Azuka makes the soldiers leave the platform. It’s probably the most illogical thing in this movie. Why would you get rid of your own protection and transport? And you really think that you’re more qualified to be in such a dangerous situation then trained soldiers?!

This way people who like 84 a lot won’t be left out. I do think it has it’s good parts, but the pace needs to be picked up.

Knight of Kalee said:

I don’t think that’s necessary, the scene needs to stay a personal exchange between Anakin and Luke, adding more characters would break the mood of the moment. Unless you make it extremely subtle and short, like a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it shadow.

Sorry for not replying sooner, but yeah, I agree, I won’t include this and I’ll leave it the way it is.

I’m pretty much done with the first draft of Padme’s edited death, but does anybody know of a time when Yoda says “the living force”? I’m trying to construct a line from him that goes “Losing the living force, she is. The work of the Sith, this must be.” by using words from different clips of Yoda speaking.

Just curious, is this issue where Vader’s helmet is messed up going to be fixed?

Working on new Padme death for ROTS. Here’s the 21B droid telling Palpatine that something’s up. Had to roto in a small clip from ESB and extend it the best I could, since the close-up lasts like less then 2 seconds.

I was going to try rotoscoping in Palpatine when he does his low growls during the knighting of Vader as a way of representing him doing the “taking life to give life” ritual, but it’s hard to get it to look right with all the hair and it does screw a bit with the continuity (as he’s wearing his red chancellor robes instead of black Sidious robes), so I’m thinking I’ll just insert a VO using Clone Wars dialogue.

You can see the wrinkles and red shadows around the eyes form too, and he starts to look more grey

Have you considered incorporating the popular fan-theory in Revenge of the Sith that Palpatine drained the living force from Padme and gave it to Vader? I think it’s a great way to show how Palpatine obviously never wanted to actually help Anakin save Padme, and it makes perfect sense: he wants Padme out of the equation.

I know it’s something I would like to do for my ROTS edit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUunFoQBJsE

Adding something like this to my Return of the Jedi edit, yay or nay?

StarkillerAG said:

Sounds like an awesome idea. I always loved dinosaurs and paleontology as a kid, and I watched Walking With Dinosaurs over and over again. But that documentary is a bit outdated now, and I’d love to see an updated version, especially with the impressive team you’ve assembled so far.

Thanks, I totally agree with you. I’ll be posting updates on this thread for anyone who wants to stay in the loop with this project.

Happened to find this on YouTube, it makes me wonder if I could possibly include this in my ANH edit in place of the Jabba scene if I can get it in good quality. I think it might help in my goal of giving Vader his own agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERG32o15J0

Dinosauria: Ascension, Domination, Downfall is an upcoming prehistoric wildlife documentary series I am creating that aims to be the most scientifically accurate, up-to-date and compelling dinosaur documentary to date.

Official Poster by a fantastic paleoartist who goes by Prehistorica on Twitter:

It’s of a Tyrannosaurus couple sharing a nice meal together.

Official Website: https://dinosauriadocumentary.com

Me and my team are striving to create a documentary that does two crucial things we believe are essential to making an exemplary natural history documentary:

1. Accurately showcasing the Mesozoic era (the era often dubbed “the age of the dinosaurs”) and the animals that lived in it in all of their glory, portraying dinosaurs and other giant reptiles like pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, etc. as the real animals they actually were. Our documentary will not portray these beautiful creatures as inept, obsolete monsters that constantly got into violent fights, but as powerful, extremely successful and active animals that practice many behaviors modern animals do today. Our documentary will educate it’s viewers on these animals’ evolution, anatomical features, diet, their ecological relationships with other animals, possible social lives with members of their own kind, how their environment affected the way they lived, how they hunted, fought, reproduced, and much more.
2. Creating riveting stories that engage viewers into the world these animals lived in. We want to produce episodes that not only educate, but excite and captivate our audience with scenarios that invoke sympathy for the animals. Our goal is to make a documentary that will be exhilarating, beautiful, thrilling, and even sometimes sad; a magnificent, awe-inspiring masterpiece not seen since BBC’s award-winning mini-series Walking with Dinosaurs.

Dinosauria will consist of 10 episodes, each one taking place in a different time and location in the Mesozoic. These episodes will be around 30-45 minutes long, and will be produced with a mix of CGI and practical puppets (though mostly the former). Think like Walking with Dinosaurs, but bigger in scope and updated to current scientific rigor.

More info is to come.

Wow, this sounds incredibly ambitious and I am looking forward to it, especially the ROTS scene of Yoda communicating with Qui-Gon and the ROTJ scene with Darth Vader in his meditation chamber trying to reach Luke. I’ve never seen anyone try to restore these scenes. Would it be possible to get a preview of them?

TheAlaskanSandman said:

They both go. Not together though. Its implied that Sidious goes in secret to murder the children and the blame is laid on Anakin. Since its not something Anakin is ordered to do or would likely do. Then when Padame mentions the story told to her by Obi, Anakin dismissing it is because its more lies of the Jedi as far as he is concerned

This is a fantastic idea.

Could I see this edit please?

I just came up with an idea for a small dialogue change in Revenge of the Sith: you know the one line in which Sidious says “To cheat death is a power only one has achieved but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret”? While I absolutely love the delivery, I find it kind of strange because his previous lines say to Anakin he already knows how to do it, and giving away that he doesn’t is really odd. So I’d like to find a way to change the line so it’s “To cheat death is a power only a Sith can achieve”, which leads Anakin to say “I pledge myself, to your teachings.”

Very minor change, but I think it’ll improve the scene. What do you guys think?

Does anyone have a link to Adywan’s color corrected Blu-Ray for A New Hope and/or his 1997 Empire Strikes Back reconstruction?