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Knight of Kalee said:

A couple months ago I was inspired by the “New canon cut” and gave a try to reinserting the council deleted scene, but I cut Yoda’s last line so he can say it later during hologram briefing scene later in the film. Here, he just (reluctantly) nods.
https://youtu.be/9Qrghd3sK7U

Nice! I’ve been inspired a little bit by NFBisms’ new canon cut too, though of course I’m not including all of his changes.

The thing is though, I’m trying to figure out where I’d put this scene, because unlike many of the edits that use it, I’m keeping the original placement of Anakin’s dream and his scene with Padme and then Yoda when he talks about it with them. I not only love both scenes and think they are well-written, but I also think the latter one is especially important as it shows that Anakin does initially go to the Jedi for help, but Yoda doesn’t give him a solution other then “Let Padme die”, which isn’t what Anakin wants. I feel like this is an important step in Anakin’s turn to the Sith, the Jedi refusing him but the Sith offering him a way. I’m also keeping the first dream in it’s original place as it’s important that Anakin receives these dreams over and over, as it increases his stress about it and makes him more and more determined to prevent it from happening. Any suggestions as to where I could place this deleted scene?

EvantheKidDS said:

Also, I wouldn’t have the such time, and dedication. I’m young, lol.

I’m 17 and I’m doing my own, your point?

Btw, the reason Anakin didn’t say anything when Obi-Wan was being chosen to lead the mission against Grievous wasn’t out of pettiness, but because Anakin had no say in council matters because he wasn’t a master. He was only there to be Palpatine’s representative and nothing more. That’s why he was frustrated when he was denied the rank.

I’ve made some tweaks to my AOTC edit to fix up some of the transitions and some additional minor changes. In case this wasn’t picked up on before, it’s now available.

I’ve been working on my ROTS edit. I’ve been considering some other minor dialogue trims, added another deleted scene and of course Padme’s new death is still in the works. I’ve been considering adding the deleted scene in which Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda talk about their suspicions about Palpatine for the same reason others do, to show that the Jedi are onto Palpatine from the beginning, but I haven’t completely decided yet. I’d be interested in hearing input from others.

I happened to stumble upon this video and I’m considering editing this idea into my TPM edit. I like it as it makes the music more unique when it’s reprised in ROTS, and I think it’s very fitting for the scene. What do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8IRRm0qAA

TheAlaskanSandman said:

I have zero plans of cutting Anakins journey. The only cuts to Anakin are small things to do with dialogue and snipping a couple creepy looks at padame. Mitachlorines obviously. Not much in ROTS to do with Anakin is being snipped. This is his story and journey. I won’t be hiding Anakin getting maimed by Obiwan or becoming Vader (Except maybe if i do an alt cut to fit Ady’s rough ideas.- He was going to have all sabers blue, and Anakin’s transformation to Vader.) but thats it. I never had a problem with Anakin being shown to be Vader, as i prefer to watch in the Machete order.

I feel a great disturbance in the force, as if every fiber of my being just felt a great swell of relief due to these words.

I am very impressed by a lot of the changes you are making here. The new visuals look excellent, and I have a lot of respect for you because of that.

One of my only problems though is that I hate how this edit will try to hide that Anakin becomes Vader in Revenge of the Sith. The whole crux of the prequel trilogy is that it explains how Anakin became Vader. It’s the very reason audiences are invested, the reason the movies exist. Sure, there’s also the fall of the Republic and the Jedi and Palpatine’s rise to power, but let’s be honest, everybody was most invested in the birth of Vader. There’s so much forshadowing all over the place. Besides, everybody and their grandma knows the twist, so trying to preserve it is pointless work. It’d be like if in the new Planet of the Apes trilogy they tried to hide the fact that it’s on Earth to preserve the twist at the end of the original film that everybody already knows and is essential to know to understand why those movies are being made and the story they are telling (in that case, to show how the apes took over Earth). Anakin’s transformation into Vader are some of my favorite parts of the whole film, I don’t want that erased. Knowing Anakin is Vader and his backstory adds so many layers to the OT as well that weren’t there before, and I’d hate to see that gone too. It’s ridiculous to legit destroy Revenge of the Sith to preserve a “surprise” that every human being on the planet who has ever laid their eyes on a motion picture has known since 1980.

And without it it doesn’t make any sense. Obi-Wan says in ANH, “Vader betrayed and murdered your father”, but what we see in Revenge of the Sith is that Anakin betrayed and killed a ton of the Jedi and then was left to burn… and then Darth Vader shows up. Right there everybody will know that Anakin is Vader. According to Obi-Wan’s lie, Anakin remained good and was a victim of Vader’s betrayal. So seeing Anakin betray the Jedi and do evil things only makes sense knowing he’s Vader. We also know that Vader was NOT Obi-Wan’s apprentice, Anakin was; there was no “young Jedi named Darth Vader”, so the lie also falls apart there. With the information that Anakin is Vader we already know Obi-Wan is lying, but it’d be really weird to try to change the films so we won’t know he’s lying when it’s obvious we would. If you’re that desperate to preserve the mystery for your future kids or whatever, just show them the originals first.

I also disagree with removing Yoda. It just seems so… weird, that he wouldn’t be there. He’s just rotting away on Dagobah the whole time, letting the whole world crumble? How did he supposedly train Obi-Wan? And I love Yoda in the prequels.

I apologize if I sound like an ass. I am really thankful that you will be making purist versions in this case (and that I’m making my own fan-edits), 😛 as I absolutely love what you’re doing with the visuals and a lot of your ideas (like Dooku in TPM? Genius!), but as I said I disagree with the things above.

May I have the link please? Thanks in advance.

Ok, so my personal canon has changed. Now it’s my own fan-edits for episodes 1-6, the Clone Wars series (except for any Jar Jar as Jar Jar has a completely new voice and personality in my TPM fan-edit), Rebels, Rogue One, and Marvel Darth Vader comics.

The sequels are not a part of my canon.

My AOTC edit is now exported and available.

Here are some videos.

Compilation of all of my new crawls for all 6 movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhAaPtENXTw
New Padme apartment scene: https://youtu.be/hQw_Pzm6p7U
Trimmed Packing scene: https://youtu.be/a86_BStLJkw
Mace & Obi-Wan scene (readded deleted scene, now with a new line, see if you can spot it): https://youtu.be/lGA9593v-wE
Padme’s Bedroom scene (readded deleted scene): https://youtu.be/9Iz7v6sp1CQ
New Dinner/First Kiss scene (first kiss scene regrade by Hal9000): https://youtu.be/Ma15X-fzggY

I will also post clips of my TPM edit tomorrow.

My AOTC fan-edit is now done, and will be available tomorrow.

As I’ve said the ROTS edit is pretty much finished except for Padme’s new death, so that will be the next thing I’ll be working on. I’ll post videos of my progress (as I speculate the reason why this hasn’t gotten much attention is because of the lack of videos, but I’ll correct this).

Since nobody has volunteered I’m going to do the Yoda and Palpatine lines. Time to put my impression skills to the test 😎

The Heisei series has always been my favorite of the eras of Godzilla. I love the stories and continuity, I love the aesthetic and kaiju designs, I love the music, the special effects were some of the most impressive the franchise has ever shown, and it easily has the most iconic and quintessential portrayal of Godzilla (at least its easily my personal favorite). Biollante, King Ghidorah, MGII, and Destoroyah are my all time favorite kaiju movies. However, the series still isn’t flawless. Not all of the effects have aged well, the foreign acting (especially in Biollante and King Ghidorah) is laughably bad and extraordinarily cringe, the first entry (The Return of Godzilla) is in my opinion an absolute stale bore that puts me to sleep whenever I decide to put myself through the chore of sitting through it, and other things. But I’d like to fix these.

Here is a link to a Google doc where I have compiled my ideas for all six movies. None of these are completely finalized (in fact the lists for the last 3 Heisei films are more like bullet points then a specific list, but more details will be added as I go on) so feel free to suggest things: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VClStpc09q0TfAV-_dHSzY6ZfJzaUww_HcdXoGWkk6k/edit?usp=sharing

Changes made to all films
-All films are given a completely new color grade, adjusted to my liking. Most of which are saturation and brightening effects to make them even more colorful. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II especially, as the Japanese Blu-Ray looks very dull and washed out, worse than the Japanese DVD (proving it’s not a problem with the film itself, but the Blu-Ray transfer). The film seems to have a grey filter applied to the whole thing. In fact I’d even say both TriStar transfers are better, even the DVD one. The whole film now looks much brighter and more appealing.
-Brand new subtitles for all Japanese dialogue. I know this may cause controversy, but my goal here was not to create the most accurate translation, rather have the dialogue be as good as possible. I use lines from the fandubs included with Gorizard’s uploads of the Japanese versions on archive.org and lines from the dubtitles interchangeably to my liking, and sometimes I even change the line entirely myself simply to make it better. I apologize if this offends anyone who thinks it’s offensive to straight up make up dialogue, but I thought it would really benefit these edits to take complete advantage of the situation and have free reign to adjust the dialogue in any way I please, to make it all good (not that the dialogue was particularly bad in the Heisei series overall or anything, but this does still give me free reign to do things like explain the time travel plot in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah better and fix any clunkers, especially one’s present in Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla).
-All English in the film is replaced with the English dubbed version. The dubs just generally have better performances when it comes to the non-Japanese speaking roles throughout the films, look no further then Dr. Asimov from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II. Honestly I think the guy who did the dub for him did a really good job. Mileage does vary depending on the instance but in any case the dub is still better.
-Any instance in which a monster has its mouth open but there’s no roar sound effect to accompany it is either chopped, trimmed, or has a sound effect added to it. This actually happens a LOT in every Toho Godzilla movie. This gives me a nice opportunity to add some awesome Millennium Godzilla grunt and growl sound effects, which I think would still fit and make him sound even more ferocious. I also plan on adding later Heisei roars to earlier Heisei films (the ones that sound more like the classic Showa roars) as well as adding early Heisei roars to the later Heisei films. This makes it so Godzilla doesn’t randomly just change his roars in the middle of the series, rather he always has both.
-I’d like to edit the Return of Godzilla / Godzilla vs. Biollante hybrid and Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah so Godzilla has the fiery yellow-red “Sith” eyes the entire series, as I love that design choice in the later Heisei films. Not confirmed, though.

Suggestions are more then welcome.

I’d like some advice on something.

What’s the best way to change the color of a lightsaber without affecting the rest of the movie’s color? For example, making Darth Vader’s lightsaber more of a crimson red.

I’m debating whether I should keep or remove the Leia and Wicket scene. What do you guys think?

Would anyone be able to get me DigModiFicaTion’s edit of Rogue One?

Also I’m looking for good edits of the Clone Wars TV Show that edit multiple episodes from the most important arcs into a movie format. Which one’s would you guys recommend?

StarkillerAG said:

The opening dream sequence was ludicrously over-the-top

Really? If you’re talking about the stuff Vader does then its just the Rogue One hallway scene but with Clone Troopers and Vader stopping the blaster bolts with the force, while also choking the Emperor. Vader’s shown stronger feats in the comics.

And besides, it’s a dream.

StarkillerAG said:

the dialogue was terrible

What lines did you find offensive? I actually thought it really fits the universe and characters.

StarkillerAG said:

Mace Windu’s survival was a ridiculous concept.

Alright, I can see why someone would think that. Jedi tend to be really good with falling from great heights, but it is completely subjective.

StarkillerAG said:

In my opinion, it’s everything wrong with prequel fans’ interpretation of Star Wars.

What’s being misinterpreted here? The only thing I can think of is Vader being less cold and more attached, but I think the intent of this fan-film was to show HOW he went from more emo to the cold dark lord we see in the OT.

No attack on your opinion is meant here, I’m just curious to see what you mean.

Knight of Kalee said:

Is there gonna be an explanation for Luke showing up late to the Rebel briefing? 😄

You know what that’s actually a great question XD

IDK… maybe he’s just… late.

I’m working on a dinosaur documentary project in the vain of Walking with Dinosaurs, a prehistoric nature documentary that I really love. I love it because of how great it is from a documentary-making standpoint. The only problem is that I also think it begs for a remake, due to having become outdated in terms of scientific accuracy through the last 20 years. I’ve never been satisfied by any dinosaur documentary since then, none have as good of storytelling or fundamental understanding of the natural world, and too many portray dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals as monsters that do nothing but fight and kill when they should behave like animals that partake in countless different behaviors. My documentary aims to be completely accurate, tell compelling stories, and portray dinosaurs and their cohabitants as the beautiful, spectacular animals they really were. It will be called “Dinosauria: Ascension, Domination, Downfall”. I have considered possibly making a thread about it in a fitting section of the forum.

Anyway, just a few days ago I contacted a person who is a part of a group that does fantastic, pretty much perfect-looking 3D models for dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals and his prices are excellent and actually shocked me.

Here is the link to their page: https://www.artstation.com/jaggedfangdesigns

I am very hyped to be working with these people. They seem to be as dedicated to scientific accuracy as myself and the rest of my team. This is a real morale booster and has given me good faith that I will actually be able to produce this thing.

Because the Return of the Jedi opening crawl now has 4 paragraphs, I have decided to do a new opening crawl for every single film so they all follow the same format. I have updated the document with the information about the new openings and I will update my Phantom Menace edit to have the new crawl.

Just curious, as someone who liked it to people who didn’t like it, what were your problems with the fan-film? I’m talking not about the creator or any controversy, but just the product itself.

Knight of Kalee said:

I think the only con to moving the Dagobah scenes to the opening act would be that the film would lose some of that ambiguity regarding Luke’s allegance at the beginning. The moment Luke arrives to Jabba’s palace kind of plays with the possibility of him having turned to the dark (being arrogant, Force-choking the guards, wearing black and a sinister-looking cloak, etc.).

But otherwise, the arrangement would explain why the Rebels went with such a hasty plan, it would make Luke’s power upgrade more believable and his intervention more badass in hindsight. Anyway, regardless of how you restructure your edt, the important thing is that the film should adequatly convey Luke’s conflict with the dark side.

Yeah, I think the positives of this change would outweigh the negatives. And I think there’s still plenty there to show he’s tipping a little towards the dark side. In fact, what if the reason he’s somewhat angry, violent, and arrogant is because he’s internally frustrated with Obi-Wan and Yoda that they’re forcing him to kill his father, which he doesn’t want to do. So his more aggressive behavior is him venting some of that frustration.

Knight of Kalee said:

And I would be totally interested to have your Phantom Menace version!

Thanks man, a DM is on the way (I just gotta wait for the file to finish uploading to Google Drive, kinda forgot about that part lol, shouldn’t be too long tho).

I have decided to implement a new idea into my Return of the Jedi fan-edit. Basically there’s going to be a new opening crawl that states that after his defeat to Darth Vader in ESB, Luke returns to Dagobah to train with Yoda, and his allies have formulated a plan to free Han Solo from Jabba (including the droids). My idea is that the film will be edited to make it appear as if Luke had been training with Yoda in the time period between ESB and this film, which explains how Luke became a better, more powerful Jedi in-between. It also helps the plan to free Han Solo make more sense, as now the efforts by the others can be seen as them attempting to free Han without Luke during his absence on Dagobah. However, since their plan doesn’t work, Luke has to go to Tatooine to save their asses. The scenes on Dagobah will be moved to the beginning and intercut with the Jabba’s palace scenes.

Btw, my The Phantom Menace edit has been exported and is now available. It’s more of a combination of others edits so I know mine isn’t exactly revolutionary or anything, but if you find my version appeals to you based on the list of edits on the document linked in the first post then I’d be happy to share it with anyone. Don’t hesitate to DM if interested 😃

Next is Attack of the Clones, which I anticipate will be available soon.

Unfortunately he’s said that he’s not taking new suggestions for the HD edit.

StarkillerAG said:

plus the added goal of improving continuity with Rogue One

How is he going to do this?

So… should I feel bad for liking it and being hyped for part 2?

oojason said:

There are a few posts on this Fan Film (along his later PR stunt with apparent unsubstantiated claims) within the…

Star Wars Fan Films / Shorts - a general discussion thread

…as well as a host of other fan films and ‘mini-reviews’ / thoughts on them too 😃

I knew there had to be something for such a popular fan-film.

I apologize for cluttering the forum.