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#57055
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Here's a Hint of the Public's Reaction that the '04 DVDs would not be the OOT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57055/action/topic#57055
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Actually, the bit on what version they are is all the way down in the review section. If I went to the site and said, "oh, Star Wars on DVD. Must buy"(i.e. the average movie goer), they'd be no need to scroll down, and hence, I'd have no idea which I'm buying. Also, just because the ignorent, we don't care masses are technically on your side, doesn't make it better.


Right. Jimbo just wants to think that people want the changes to the movies, though.
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#56730
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56730/action/topic#56730
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Originally posted by: Liteoni
Well... I know I post a bit too much to this topic perhaps... I'm sorry about that.

But I would like to know if there are any chapter paper art (I don't know what to call it) for inside the dvd box matching the 'original trilogy anamorphic ld rip' -version. There are numerous pics of all kind of things in this thread but most of them doesn't work any more and it's _very_ confusing...

BTW, if you think it wouldn't be too risky legally to host best ones of these pictures permanently on a page I would have 50MB of useless page on a pretty good server in Finland. Is it too risky?


As for inserts, I have started work on some, but the job has stalled due to frustration. I'm sure I'll get the motivation to do them soon, I hope.
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#56626
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Episodes 7,8,9?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56626/action/topic#56626
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
OK there was the Rolling Stone interview years ago that said he'd do 3 before and 3 after. For a number of years I thought boht were lies as neither surfaced. Then we got the PT (and I am not sure I want them, though magnolia did an awesome job correcting much wrong). Well, I came across this on a thread...

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Here we go,... Dark Horizons posted earlier this week that there is talk that there is preliminary movement on another trilogy in the Star Wars saga. Dark Horizons posted that the new trilogy would be Episode 7 ,8 and 9 and that Steven Spielberg would take over the Directorial duties and that George would continue to write. We do know that Steven has mentioned plenty times in the past that he would love direct a Star Wars film. So a lot of this is not too far off base of previous reports. But this is not exactly what I have been told. This is what I have so far, Star Wars will continue but not necessarily on the big screen, maybe TV and it most likely will not be Episodes 7,8 and 9. Steven will take charge but there is good possibilities that we will see 1000 years before the Skywalkers. Can we say Golden Age of the Sith??!! Once again nothing is final until we here it from the horses mouth. So stay tune!!
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And yes damnit this is a rumor and no I didn't write it. So no flames. Just curious to what you're thoughts are and if you've heard anything about this. Ihave heard a number of grumblings about a TV show, hmm, that could be bad...real bad.


I've heard a number of rumors about a sequel trilogy, but my take on it is that if Spielberg and Lucas can't get Indiana Jones 4 off the ground, what chance have they of getting a new Star Wars Trilogy off the ground?
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#56624
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56624/action/topic#56624
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Originally posted by: Spyder X
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
I found these links...here is a bunch of side by side pics comparing the New 2004 release to the SE's

nearly confinrmed DVD changes thread

and here's a link to the box set's complete artwork...pretty cool

artwork for boxset


The quality of those cleaned up shots (not the changed ones, just the ones with cleaned up picture quality) is making me drool. That's some extremely good quality.

If only the originals were included! Why did Lucas have to leave them out? Why, why, why? I'm seriously fighting the temptation to buy these DVDs. I must resist! They look so tempting. Really my only problem with them are that they're the new versions. The cleaned up quality, all those bonus features, etc. all make me want to get these. I wanna see the movies in ultra high quality (if only they were the originals!) and I wanna hear the commentaries for all of them and get to see all those extra features. But I'm still fighting against it. Somebody help me resist temptation!


I'm having the exact same problem Spyder. The digital cleanup and the surround sound is so tempting, but I have to keep telling myself, 'Why does it matter if these aren't the same films that I grew up with?' I honestly want to be able to accept these changes, I want to just nod and follow Lucas's every whim as if it's gospel, but I can't. It seems my dilemma is that I became a Star Wars fan in 1995-1996, when I was ten and eleven years old, just before the SE changes were made. My first complete viewing of the trilogy were the originals, and I feel I didn't have near enough time to enjoy the originals before they were completely screwed with. I'm just having to take resisting the new set one day (and one viewing of my bootlegs) at a time.


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Yeah but by that logic that fat Irish actor who was in the Jabba scene has been getting a raw deal since the beginning.


The difference is, Jimbo, that the Irishman was cut out of ANH before the film was released in theatres and way before Star Wars acquired such a huge following.
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#56593
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56593/action/topic#56593
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Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Spicoli
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
I heard the clip yesterday, and was appalled. You were right, it was originally a chilling scene, because of the mystery contained in the dialogue. Now it's obvious. I also felt that Clive Revill added to the mystery as the Emperor in ESB, because I really had no idea what Palpatine looked like until ROTJ, and when I saw Ian McDiarmid in the Throne Room, I was shocked and stunned.
Clive Revill's still alive, by the way. Is there anything legal he can do about being replaced, because out of all of the replacements (Shaw, Jeremy Bulloch's voice), Revill is the only one being completely excised.

Just to be clear, Jeremy Bullock was never the voice of Boba Fett. That honor originally went to Jason Wingreen, who also portrayed the bartender on All in the Family.

I do agree that the mystery has been completely removed from the Emperor scene.


I didn't think that was Bulloch doing the voice of Fett, but I heard somewhere that it was, and I don't know why I believed it, because the voice was totally devoid of British accentation. But anyway, according to the IMDB, Wingreen's still alive as well; maybe we should form a Revill/Wingreen support group, since they've both been completely hacked out of the trilogy for all time.

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#56478
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56478/action/topic#56478
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Originally posted by: alexborn007
I was ok with the McDiarmid change until it became apparent that they changed the dialogue. Too apparent.

This is sad. I understand the continuity thing, but why destroy the creepiness of the scene?!?!?! The original, even in the SE was a chilling scene. Now, it just points out things the Emperor would obviously know since he's in cahootz with Vader. Good bye poignancy.

I was actually tempted to buy the set once I heard the scream had been taken out. That was a nice day...

"Vader: The son of Skywalker must not become a jedi..."


You're not buying it now, though, are you?
I heard the clip yesterday, and was appalled. You were right, it was originally a chilling scene, because of the mystery contained in the dialogue. Now it's obvious. I also felt that Clive Revill added to the mystery as the Emperor in ESB, because I really had no idea what Palpatine looked like until ROTJ, and when I saw Ian McDiarmid in the Throne Room, I was shocked and stunned.
Clive Revill's still alive, by the way. Is there anything legal he can do about being replaced, because out of all of the replacements (Shaw, Jeremy Bulloch's voice), Revill is the only one being completely excised.
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#56476
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Friend claims to have Episode 3 on dvd...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56476/action/topic#56476
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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: jturd
I'm God. I just downloaded George Lucas' soul. It's in 5.1 Dolby with a commentary track by St. Peter.


Yeah, but I've got the Special Edition release of his soul... THX remastered, to boot! Plus I've got a preorder on the Ultimate Edition Lucassoul with a bunch of special features and thoughts added in after the fact.


Haha.

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Liar George Lucas has no soul! he sold it in the early eighties, just before he came up with the idea of Ewoks.


Don't hate the Ewoks! Please! But I think you're right--Lucas has no soul. And where did it go? Well, I think it involves a Faust story that went wrong. Rick McCallum is Satan, and told Lucas that he would make his works amazing beyond all description if he gave McCallum his soul, but as we all know now, 'Satan' was lying.
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#56475
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Should Star Wars Purists Shut Up?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56475/action/topic#56475
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Wow, Sacul the Hutt shares a name with the Rebel X-Wing pilot Jorg Sacul. Coincidence?


Depends on what sort of charater Jorg Sacul was. If he was constantly making alterations to his X-Wing, to the point where it barely looked like an X-Wing, and then erased the memory systems of his R2 unit so that the droid had no recollection, I would say it wasn't a coincidence.
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#56416
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must play games
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56416/action/topic#56416
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i found a kick ass site last night and forgot to bookmark it....
anyway...

for GTA San Andreas fans...
feast your eyes on the game of the year!!

Grand Theft Auto San Andreas


I have no doubt it'll be good, especially after the GTA III and Vice City. But did anyone else suffer a GTA burnout like I did? I owned Vice City up until recently, but finally sold it to a friend because I just couldn't really play it anymore. I've never been burnt out by a game like that before, which is strange, because it's a great game.
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#56182
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56182/action/topic#56182
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Didn't feel like this fit in my last post, so I just decided to post it separately. Here's something I hate: The fools are Warner Brothers who are suppressing Gabriel Yared's score for Troy. I want to hear it, but the corporate morons at WB are trying to make sure no one can hear it. Not that I hate Horner's score for the film; I love it. But I just want to know if Yared's version is as good as it's been stated.
Long-winded, I know, but the blunt fact is that I despise huge corporate beauracracies that limit an artist's (of any sort) freedom and creative property.
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#56181
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56181/action/topic#56181
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Thanks, everyone.

The surgery went as well as possible, appearantly. Actually, I was never really worried in the firstplace.
Now I'm not sure if you'll call that faith, or just arrogance, but whatever.

Thanks again.


And by the way, if you haven't figured it out yet, I am back.


It's a bit delayed, but I'm glad to hear everything turned out all right.

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#56184
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Should Star Wars Purists Shut Up?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56184/action/topic#56184
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Originally posted by: Pagz
The Star Wars Canon hierarchy:

The Movies: Supercede all
The Novelizations of the movies: If it's not specifically mentioned or contradicted in the film, it's canon.
The Radio Dramas: If it is not specifically mentioned or contradicted in the movies or the books, it's cannon.

The end

Expended Universe is not considered canon.


My rule of thumb about canon (albeit one that can't hold up in an argument at all, so I don't press it) is that I pick and choose what I want to accept and what I don't. Now, it sounds stupid, but I keep it to myself and try to stay out of canon debates whenever I come across them. I also don't deny that certain things happened in the books that I don't agree with, though I do accept the movies entirely, just because there's no way around it. I even have a sketchy vision of an alternate prequel trilogy that is open to my imagination. So I don't exactly pretend like things never happened, you see.

BTW, what happened to Erich? His page is dead, and I was looking forward to reading more of his insights after returning from vacation.

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#56180
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Mark Hamill in Ireland Online Interview
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56180/action/topic#56180
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I don't understand how someone can be so praising of Lucas like Jimbo is and still come to this site. As I've said before, there's plenty of room on TFN and the official site for Lucas-worship. I've refrained from going to the movie-related boards whenever I go to either one; the people on there simply make me sick.

Jimbo, no genius would ever have cast such a terrible actor as Hayden Christensen as the hinge character of his/her saga. My old imaginings of what Anakin Skywalker would actually have been like are being spoiled by that wretched non-thespian.

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Lucas and all those responsible for the Star Wars saga WERE great.

Except Rick McCallum, Warbler. He's never been anything more than an ass-kisser.
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#56179
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Other SW DVD releases- expected by year's end
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56179/action/topic#56179
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Originally posted by: R2
Well, with all of this stuff slated for release on DVD, the question on everyone's mind is WHERE is the Holiday Special?!? Wink, wink. Nudge , nudge.


Honestly, why can't Lucas own up to it? I've watched bits and pieces, and it may be exceptionally cheesy, but it can't be a nightmarish piece of television history like everyone's making it out to be--it's got to provide enough laughs just by making fun of it the whole time. Anyway, I should be getting my copy of the Special from Rikter any day now, along with the Clone Wars episodes, and I'm really hoping that they don't release the third season on DVD before I can get them from Rikter as well, because I really don't respect how Lucas handled the presenting of the episodes of the CW (you know, making them Hyperspace-only very shortly after their appearance on TV; I never got to finish watching the second season ).

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#55963
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I'm thinking lawsuit...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55963/action/topic#55963
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Well...this morning I waded through all four pages of discussion on the legalities of what Lucas is doing, and I would love a lawsuit to begin. As for some comments about how physical or emotional trauma is a requirement for a successful suit, wasn't there a class-action suit a few years back accusing record labels of price-fixing? Price-fixing isn't traumatic (a pain in the ass, definitely, but not tramautic), so if a lawsuit can be filed against price-fixing music corporations, can't a lawsuit be filed against Lucas? And what does it matter if he has to pay the fans or not? All we want is for him to acknowledge the original cuts and release them on DVD, and the lawsuit (or the threat thereof) might make enough noise so that Lucas and McCallum can't stay deaf to it any longer.
Now, we need a lawyer...a lawyer that also happens to be a Star Wars fan. Anyone know anybody that knows somebody?

Also, I think, as someone mentioned, that a number of us should pepper the Jedi Council on the official site with the same question until they answer us. Which of the council members would be best to ask?
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#55924
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55924/action/topic#55924
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Fight the Darkside, Galahad. Jealousy, hopelessness, laughing fanboys, the ignorent masses, the Darkside are they. Easily they corrupt, quick to disillusion we of the light. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you with regret and frustration it will, as it did Lucas and his apprenticices.


I'm fighting, Klingon, I'm fighting. For my ally is the 1993 Definitive Edition transferred on DVD, and a powerful ally it is.
Thanks Klingon, I really needed that. I've got my set from Rikter, and that'll be more than adequate for now.
*ignites lightsaber and prepares to face another inevitable onslaught*

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#55918
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55918/action/topic#55918
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The sad part is that there are people on TFN who are thinking that all of these changes are the greatest thing to ever happen in the history of cinema. I have to admit, though, that, bad as it may seem, the Anakin change is growing on me...slightly.

Or is that defeatism setting in? Realizing that Lucas can't be beaten and being tempted to hop on his bandwagon? I want official DVD releases more badly than I thought I did, because I'm starting to consider buying these. Does anyone else feel the same way, or am I just weak-willed when it comes to Star Wars?
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#55893
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The Ultimate Abomination - EU...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55893/action/topic#55893
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Originally posted by: SammyTheBull
I've just seen the ultimate *Star Wars* abomination:

http://www.elgarsplace.com/millenniumfalcon_rotjdvd_haydenchristensen.zip

Wah! Real, after all. I'd much rather have Binks inserted in every part of the OT than this...


No joke, Sammy. This is the ultimate abomination. I had hoped and hoped that it wasn't real, but here it is...I'm so glad I have my bootlegs from Rikter.
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#55892
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55892/action/topic#55892
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Hot Rod...you need a Divx codec on your computer for you to be able to view the video...but be warned--it'll cause you nothing but pain and will cause a long stream of obscenities to flow out of your mouth. You'll hate it, you'll loathe it, you'll want to bury George Lucas and Rick McCallum alive and wrapped in each other's embrace after you see it.

I am pissed off beyond words.