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#371111
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10 years after Episode I - Jake Llyod interviewed
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Okay, okay.  Maybe it's just because I'm extremely weary, but I can certainly see this conversation getting ugly at some point in the future.  I normally wouldn't butt in, but, like I said, bad mood.  Obviously G E has his perception of how he sees the films.  Some of this is not discussing fact but opinion, so I don't see any need to regale him of our viewpoint ad nauseum, since if he has his mindset... um, set, well, there you go.

So... Lucas lies, and G E can maintain his childlike innocence and suspension of disbelief when watching Star Wars no matter which version he's watching.  There?  Are we all happy?

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#371026
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Thread I saw on IMDb: When did you realize Palpatine's true identity? (in the PT)
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As I've admitted before, it wasn't until AOTC came out on DVD that I learned that they were the same person.  I mean, I knew that Palpatine was the badguy who would become the Emperor, but I assumed black-cloaked guy must be some Sith Predecessor.  I mean, yeah, it just seemed too obvious that they were the same, so I assumed black-cloaked guy must be a different character with a hidden backstory, maybe to lure Palpatine to the darkside as Palpatine would later do to Anakin.  So much for giving Lucas the benefit of the doubt...

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#370837
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Problems with Widescreen LE of A New Hope
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mattredlyw said:
Gaffer Tape said:

That's not a skip.  That's where the layer change occurs.  Some players can read it better than others.  There's nothing wrong with the disc, that's just the way it is.  Sorry.

 

Oh, crap, yeah. I forgot my old PS2 did that all the time. Thanks.

 

Not a problem!  Most of my DVD players are pretty old, so I'm used to it.  But when I play it on my new computer, it makes the switch seamlessly, which is pretty refreshing.

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#369888
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Blu Ray movies NOT worth buying
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Hmm, I have the older DVD boxset, which I only bought recently because I, too, am broke, and it was extremely discounted after the new release.  I don't have Blu-Ray, so I didn't figure I'd just buy the new DVD set when it was already outmoded.  Went for price, and I'd actually never seen the movies before the prior DVD set.

I looked at all the links you sent out, Chainsaw, and I have one question:  how come the subtitles only appear in the old Region 1 DVD but not in the old Region 2 or the new version?  Are the subs not burned into this new version (which, if you've noticed my opinions in the Star Wars releases)?  If not, it automatically loses several points in my book, better colors or not... Hell, I'm colorblind anyway! =P

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#369455
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Two Palpatine-related tidbits
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Interesting.  I have a couple of questions, though; one editing-related, and the other story-related.

How did you keep your opening titles so perfectly in sync with the monitor Palpatine was watching?  Is that a Vegas feature?

I was a bit confused when Anakin stopped Mace.  You changed it so that he blocked Mace's lightsaber blade, but then Anakin immediately cut off his hand anyway.  Was that moment there just for dramatic pacing, to contrast it with Luke's similar interaction in ROTJ?  Or are we supposed to assume that his hand didn't actually get cut off, and that Anakin's block just gave Palpatine enough time to throw him out the window?

And I thought it was funny how Anakin was still so late to get to the battle even though he came with him.  Obviously there wasn't much you could do about that, but as he ran down the hallway, I couldn't help shouting aloud:  "Hey, guys!  I told you to wait for me while I went to park the car!"

But, yeah, I liked the way you changed it subtley so that Anakin appears a bit more stoic during a lot of it.

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#369386
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Tortured...droids?
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Yeah, the steam thing was a bit too much, especially since it was painfully obvious that it was coming out of the droid rather than being produced by the heat burning him.  But other than that, I agree with what the others said.  The droids do feel pain.  3PO has every right to be afraid.  Jabba is abusive to his property.  And interesting point Bingowings about the comedy of the droid torture scene in comparison to the human torture scenes.

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#369301
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Tortured...droids?
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As I've made abundantly clear (in fact, it's turning into my MO!) this part of the film is my least favorite, but there are far worse problems in it than the droid torturing.  I do often think about it, though, when it's up.  It does make me chuckle a bit, moreso for 3PO's reaction than anything else, but it does cause me to wonder for a few moments what sense it makes.  Maybe if it was only lacking that garbage can having his feet burned it would be okay.  The droid being torn apart on the rack (the one 3PO's distracted by) isn't as goofy, and I also love the fact that 3PO's desperate reach to R2 as he's being carried away matches the dispatched droid behind him.  Maybe it's just that one foot-tortured droid that pushes the scene into the realm of WTF.

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#369217
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If Lucas did a proper oot restoration for blu ray and dvd would he be forgiven for the special editions and the prequels?
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Fang Zei said:

We can't imagine you would have anything more to revise in Episodes II and III, and they are (as of now) still the versions that appeared in digital projection during their original theatrical runs. Episode I has already been slightly re-edited with a couple scene extensions and there are rumors of still further revisions, specifically the replacement of the yoda puppet with the Episode II/III digital counterpart. If you could please include the original 1999 theatrical cut of the film via seamless branching, it would be very much appreciated by all of your completist fans.

Nice petition (if only it was a tongue-in-cheek as it seems, but it does seem that Lucas likes to play semantics enough for this to be necessary), but remember that II and III aren't exactly the theatrical versions either.  Clones has the additions of sparks to Jango's jetpack, the altering of Padme's recovering noise after falling out of the ship, and a closeup of Anakin's robotic arm, and Sith has the very minor change from a wipe to a straight cut.

 

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#369181
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Big Daddy Doll (Bioshock 2)
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Okay, now I get it!  Kinda...  Well, I'd heard the name "Big Daddy," but only in The Spoony One's video reviews.  He often has segments where he plays with action figures (a la Spaceballs), and one of them had Neo from The Matrix fighting this so-called Big Daddy, leading to this awesome line (in a Keanu Reeves voice, no less):  "Oh, no!  I'm getting sodomized by Big Daddy's drill!"  Nice to finally understand what that means!

And not that I entirely get it, but that's a good-looking doll.

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#368843
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Movies that should be re-made
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C3PX said:

Honestly, I really don't see that any different than now. 

Only instead of classic films covered in shit, we have pure shit. I don't know about you, but I really like things to act like what they are. I get a cat, I want it to act like a cat. Dumb thing goes and starts acting like a dog, I am tossing it out. The SE is a confusing mess, is it an old film, is it a new film, complete mess. 

I don't think a remade sequel trilogy would have any adverse bearings on an eventual restoration of the original trilogy. It would be a bit like euthanasia for the poor old trilogy. Right now the things looks like crap, tubes coming out of every hole, hook up to life support. Nobody even really cares about it anymore. It has worn out its welcome for most people. The poor movies define dead horse beatings. It feels like the decent thing to do, to retire the poor things. Let the sleeping dog die. Burry the bloody horse corps. These movies deserve to be setting on everybodies DVD shelf, not under going cosmetic surgery every few years and having the little good that remains in them squeezed out for a profit.

Oh, I certainly agree about putting the old girl down.  She certainly needs it.  She's just embarrassing herself now.  I just think that if Lucas remade them, rather than just cast the originals aside and let us have them, he'd try to bury them even more as they obviously don't meld with his original vision like the prequels and remakes do.  While, true, it wouldn't make us any worse off than we are now, what with already having, um, something on DVD, I don't think it would help us get a good Blu-Ray release any sooner.

 

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#368835
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Movies that should be re-made
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C3PX said:
EyeShotFirst said:

Star Wars being remade is meh. The OOT shows a time when George Lucas was an innovative and proud director. It might be nice for some but I don't know...

 

I suppose you missed my subtle hints of a SW remake being a bit like waving a slab of raw meat in front of a rampaging lion, then chucking it as far from yourself as humanly possible. All about diverting focus.

If those three films were remade, I'd go see them in the theater for the sake of curiousity. I really think it would be a win win situation for SW fans of every type. George could even change the stories as much as he wished in order to "improve them". Ultimately, the originals would still exist, and I could walk away content if they such, and slightly excited if they turn out to be good.

I don't know.  In theory it sounds like a good idea, but this is George Lucas we're talking about here.  I wouldn't put it past him to remake the films, call those the real versions, and never allow the original films to be released again. 

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#368670
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'04 Commentaries
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I don't remember which thread it was, but someone was talking about how useless the '04 commentaries were, and I said that I hadn't listened to them since '04 (and I haven't even inserted those discs since '06 when the GOUT came out).  While it wasn't the best commentary ever, it had been a while, so I decided to check them out.  Here are my conclusions:

George Lucas:  Torture for the ears.  While he'll occasionally say something useful and interesting, 80% of what he says is a complete lie, and I'm amazed he could say some of the things he said with a straight face.  And even when he wasn't flat-out lying, he sounded so pompous that I wanted to kick him.  I swear if I hear "psychological motifs" come out of his mouth one more time, I'm going to punch someone!  Most of his dialogue needed to be excised, plain and simple.

Ben Burtt:  I've heard a lot that Burtt is given way too much time to talk, but when you compare him to the Lucas track, at least Burtt has interesting things to say!  While most of it is the technical stuff you would expect (which in itself is fascinating), he also has a few humorous anecdotes too.

Dennis Muren:  Nothing that you wouldn't expect.  He talks about the special effects.  Generally interesting and informative, but, like George, he has the tendency to spend too much time lamenting the lack of digital effects available when the movies were filmed (although not nearly as much as George)

Carrie Fisher:  Unfortunately, she hardly gets any time at all on the commentary tracks, which is a shame because what she does deliver is extremely entertaining, and this tech-heavy commentary really needed some anecdotal balance to it, which someone on set would have been able to give.

Irvin Kershner:  By far my favorite, and when I first listened to this in '04, it reinforced my reasoning behind why Empire has always been my favorite film of the franchise.  We all know tensions were high during production, and that he was an outsider brought into George's world, but he talks about the world of Empire with such genuine enthusiasm.  A lot of what he says is pretty obvious; in fact, a lot of the time he just basically narrates what's going on in the movie at the moment, but it's done with such excitement that I could listen to him all day.  If I had any indication that Marquand was even half as interesting as Kershner, I would be mourning the fact that he wasn't around to do commentary for Return.  But Kershner strikes a wonderful balance among the technical side, the storytelling side, and the anecdotal side, something you would think that Lucas would have been able to do on the commentary for the first film if he hadn't been so busy talking about psychological motifs and spinning his retroactive continuity.  The thing about Kershner's commentary is that you have to read between the lines.  I think he gets so excited about elements of the film that he can't really explain them too well, but you can definitely tell that he was responsible for so many of the amazing moment of that movie.

And soon after I saw these, I came across this article on zombie's website.

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/magicofempire.html

This is probably the most amazing thing I've ever read.  It's on set right before the filming of the carbon freeze scene.  It proves that Kershner can certainly communicate eloquently when he needs to.  From listening to the commentary, I got the impression that Kershner and Ford really had a mutual respect for and collaboration with one another, and this transcript proves it.  Ah, what I would give to be able to hear those recordings rather than just read them!  Fascinating!  Definitely give it a read if you haven't already.

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#368668
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New interview with JEDI Producer Howard Kazanjian (includes discussion of a deleted scene).
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CO said:

Interesting to read that the reason Han was put in carbonite was because they didn't know if he would do the 3rd movie.  A great moment in the OT simply because Ford wasn't contractually obligated for another movie!

 

 Wow, I'm amazed you didn't know that, CO!  I thought that was extremely common knowledge in the fandom.

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#368565
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Top ten films you desire to see in a movie theatre...
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The Godfather is too boring?  It's a movie filled with people being killed in a multitude of interesting ways.  I'm curious as to what's boring about it?

As for my list:

Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi (all theatrical versions, no A New Hope, any of the original sound mixes)
Back to the Future
Star Trek II
Citizen Kane

Eh, more later when I can think of some.

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#368470
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New interview with JEDI Producer Howard Kazanjian (includes discussion of a deleted scene).
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I have to admit that, of all the shit added in for the SE, that one bothers me the least.  Sure, it doesn't have the context of the rest of the movie (unless you pay attention to the dialogue earlier in the film), and it's not really necessary, but it is a nice scene and helps establish that at least a little bit.