Gaffer Tape

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Post: #140902
Topic: Rankings
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140902/action/topic#140902
Time: 24-Sep-2005 8:14 PM

Anyone else feel that the quality of a lot of recent threads has been dragged through the mud?

Post: #141011
Topic: Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141011/action/topic#141011
Time: 24-Sep-2005 8:11 PM

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Originally posted by: zion
I moderate the Preservation board only. Jay felt the need about 6 months ago due to increased traffic and problem users, I assume. I have little real power elsewhere.

Ah, okay, thanks. I don't frequent the Preservation section very much anymore, I'm sad to admit.

Post: #140897
Topic: One-Man Star Wars Trilogy - Lambs Theatre, NYC
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140897/action/topic#140897
Time: 24-Sep-2005 8:01 PM

It does, but props for being extremely funny!

Post: #140896
Topic: Sometimes do you feel like you should give up on the cause?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140896/action/topic#140896
Time: 24-Sep-2005 7:57 PM

I'm not buying any new versions of Star Wars. The only reason I bought the 2004 DVDs was because I didn't know additional changes would be on them when I preordered, I didn't know about this place, and didn't know there were places available to get the original trilogy. I just figured I had to get the closest thing as I could to real Star Wars on DVD before my original tapes faded out, and it seemed like the only option at the time. My girlfriend refuses to watch my DVDs, though, because she's so pissed at the changes. But now that I have Star Wars on DVD, I'm not putting up with Lucas's perverted little "vision" anymore.

Anyway, Kev, welcome back. It is a scary, scary Internet world out there indeed, but everyone is entitled to their misguided opinions, I suppose. ^_~

Post: #140993
Topic: Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140993/action/topic#140993
Time: 24-Sep-2005 6:11 PM

That seems like the next logical step, doesn't it? Don't forget the digital Ewoks, though. I think I remember him complaining once that the Ewok suits didn't allow the Ewoks to be able to blink their eyes, so I wouldn't be surprised if that would be something he "fixed."

By the way, when did you become a moderator, zion? And what caused Jay to be convinced that we need one?

Post: #140953
Topic: Star Wars 3-D in 2007
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140953/action/topic#140953
Time: 24-Sep-2005 5:05 PM

No, I don't think George has had the technology up until now to make Han Solo the good guy he wanted him to be in '97 and last year. In the new 2007 version, Han Solo will allow Greedo to shoot and miss him three times before giving him a complete psychoanalysis to get to the root of his trigger happy persona and his lack of firing skills. Then Han will hand over the keys to his condo in Florida for Greedo to crash at.

Post: #140901
Topic: Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140901/action/topic#140901
Time: 24-Sep-2005 2:11 PM

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Originally posted by: theredbaron
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I can't believe all this! I've noticed that most people who are in favor of this change defend it by saying that it's okay for this but not the original trilogy because the prequel trilogy sucks, and the original trilogy doesn't. Therefore, any change to the prequels are good. I thought this was partly out of film preservation. I think the prequels suck too, but I still think they should be preserved exactly the way they were in theatres, something that George has already seen to keep from happening. But the future of a film's survival shouldn't be dependent on such arbitrary reasons of whether or not it "sucks." I think it gives us less credibility than we already have to be whining to George, "Don't change the Star Wars trilogy! Give us back the originals!" only to turn around and say, "Yes! Thanks for changing Yoda in Episode I! Good job!" It just doesn't make any sense.

I can see where you're coming from, but on the other hand, I think you're wrong.

1) Why would anyone want to preserve a film that sucks? I wish Episode I was never created, and so from that standpoint, I don't believe that it needs to be preserved.
2) The main reason I (and probably a fair few other people on here) want to see the Original-Original Trilogy preserved on DVD is because it doesn't contain changes that ruin the storyline or change the meaning of some scenes. Other changes are ridiculous and out-of-place, while others have been made to make it more consistent with the PT, when it clearly should have been the other way around.
3) In this instance, a CG Yoda has been implemented instead of the puppet Yoda, to make it look more like the Yoda seen in ESB and ROTJ. To my mind, the more consistent the Prequel Trilogy is with the Original Trilogy, the better. It is from this standpoint that I support the change.
4) As far as I'm concerned, it is the same mind that made ridiculous and horrendous changes to the Original Trilogy that conceived the Prequel Trilogy. I recall an appropriation of Obi-wan: "A storyteller by the name of George Lucas, who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil, helped ILM hunt down and destroy the Star Wars Saga."

You will probably disagree with me, if you're coming at it from the angle of historeography, but the fact remains, it *SHOULD* be possible for us to have our cake and eat it too. There are so many Star Wars fans with so many different opinions on the two trilogies, that it would be financially viable to release every version of Star Wars on DVD since its theatrical release. That, is something that I think we can all agree on.

Well, a lot of people actually like The Phantom Menace (most of them aren't here), yet I bet they'd still want a new version too. So, like I said, it's all arbitrary. Life was so much easier when a movie just existed. That was it. It stood alone. I want to live in a world where directors won't go back and screw up their own films! I have a dream that we can live in harmony where "Super Special Editions" and "Extreme Uncut Editions" made to milk us of our cash won't have to exist. Until then, I'll just sit in a corner with my Back to the Future DVDs (the best example of a classic movie trilogy DVD release EVER) and weep and gnash my teeth until that day comes.

Oh, wait. It has. George, in his infinite wisdom, has kept us from having multiple versions by brainwashing us into believing that his new deluxe versions are the ONLY versions of the films... until next time.

Not exactly the world I was hoping for... T_T

Post: #140899
Topic: What is this horses**t??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140899/action/topic#140899
Time: 24-Sep-2005 2:03 PM

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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
I see much $$$$ in Lucas' future.

You are telling me, in two years its the 30th Anniversary of Star Wars as well, god I wish I thought up and made Star Wars I would have settled for maybe 100/1000th of the cash hes made, but you have give credit to George for creating such a winner and having such good business sense..

I'd settle for 1/10th. ^_~

Post: #140691
Topic: Silly Pics
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140691/action/topic#140691
Time: 24-Sep-2005 4:36 AM

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
1. No, I'm in that age group, and so far I haven't been nearly as annoying as i remember Jedikev being. So, no, it's not "how my age group acts", it's just the few stupid ones that give the rest of us a bad name.

Amen, Nanner. Amen.

Not that I'm in that age group anymore, but I don't remember being like those guys when I was. Maybe preteen, but that's different... We have more leeway then. ^_~

Post: #140685
Topic: Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140685/action/topic#140685
Time: 24-Sep-2005 4:12 AM

Eww, that sounds like crap. As if the DVD needs any more marketing beyond saying, "Hello! This is Star Wars!" Geez, George, get a life. Branch out from Star Wars and branch out from flannel.

Post: #140690
Topic: Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140690/action/topic#140690
Time: 23-Sep-2005 10:30 PM

I can't believe all this! I've noticed that most people who are in favor of this change defend it by saying that it's okay for this but not the original trilogy because the prequel trilogy sucks, and the original trilogy doesn't. Therefore, any change to the prequels are good. I thought this was partly out of film preservation. I think the prequels suck too, but I still think they should be preserved exactly the way they were in theatres, something that George has already seen to keep from happening. But the future of a film's survival shouldn't be dependent on such arbitrary reasons of whether or not it "sucks." I think it gives us less credibility than we already have to be whining to George, "Don't change the Star Wars trilogy! Give us back the originals!" only to turn around and say, "Yes! Thanks for changing Yoda in Episode I! Good job!" It just doesn't make any sense.

Post: #140689
Topic: What is this horses**t??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140689/action/topic#140689
Time: 23-Sep-2005 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Mmmmm.... C3POs. I half expected them to remarket the things since the prequel releases. I probably would have bought a couple of boxes too.

THOSE WERE NASTY. BTW, I PICKED UP A BOX OF EP.3 CEREAL WHICH IS A LUCKY CHARMS RIP-OFF FOR MY KIDS WHEN THEY CAME OUT. THE ONLY THING THEY ATE WAS THE MARSHMELLOWS IN IT.

I got the Episode III cereal as well. It wasn't too bad. Actually, on first reading, I thought you said you liked C3POs. I just realized that there's only a one letter difference between NASTY and TASTY.

Wow....

O_O

Post: #140687
Topic: How much money would you pay to see the original OT on the big screen?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140687/action/topic#140687
Time: 23-Sep-2005 10:17 PM

Yeah, I'd pay no more than the price of a regular movie ticket. He's already siphoned enough money from me. I'm not going to give him a fortune just so he'll give me something I feel I have a right to see. I think we'd have a right to be really pissed if he felt he was in the position to charge $100 a ticket to be given the privilege of seeing a movie.

Post: #140491
Topic: Silly Pics
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140491/action/topic#140491
Time: 23-Sep-2005 6:36 PM

I don't think the old guy in the Wal-Mart sack is very funny either. It's just sad.

Post: #140481
Topic: Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140481/action/topic#140481
Time: 23-Sep-2005 11:39 AM

It's still not too late to pick up the original non-Yoda-altered (albeit pod race altered) DVD? It's not too late for me to avoid all this shit, is it?

Post: #140389
Topic: Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140389/action/topic#140389
Time: 22-Sep-2005 9:52 PM

I just wish he'd stop changing any of his movies. The Episode I Yoda is good enough. And those of us bitching that the OOT isn't being released shouldn't be happy that the theatrical releases of the prequels aren't available on DVD as well. It's so hypocritical. And this is the most blatant change yet. Just leave the movies alone, George!

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
I want him in empire and jedi!!!

Sorry, but, with all due respect, hush.

I'd better go ahead and buy the Episode I DVD (I only have it on VHS) before they make this idiotic change.

Post: #140104
Topic: Has anyone now second guessed the prequels
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140104/action/topic#140104
Time: 21-Sep-2005 1:49 PM

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
You know, one of the things many don't seem to understand about the acting style and writing style in the prequels is that he intended the acting/writing to be that way. The love story, plot, everything is modeled after the styles of the 30's, as he has said on many occasions. And I wouldn't expect one of those movies to have great acting. Also, many purists aren't being truthful to themselves in that the acting in the OT is that much better. Take the famous "Nooooooooo!!!!!!!" from ROTS. I ask everyone, do you honestly think that it is any better than Lukes "Noooooo!!!!!!" in ESB? Like father like son I suppose? Also take the fact that HC and MH had that same whiny acting style which LUCAS WANTED. I have to trust the old bearded one in his decisions, becuase I highly doubt he would spend and risk hundreds of millions of dollars, around ten years of his time and devotion, and countless interviews and queries, if he didn't know what he was doing.

Have you ever seen movies from the '30s or around that time time period? Ever seen Gone with the Wind? Just because it's old doesn't mean the acting isn't good. And when he said he wanted it to be like the 1930s, that had nothing to do with the performances. It meant that he wanted it to be in the same kind of style as the old cliffhanger serials of the '30s and '40s with the swashbuckling and action. Unless he is making a parody, no director would ever intentionally get bad performances out of their actors. I agree with C3PX. Star Wars spinoffs and merchandise don't necessarily sell well because they're good. They sell well because Star Wars has such a huge devoted fanbase who'll buy into it whether we like it or not.

And I really don't like people trying to pass off the prequels as just the first three movies of a six movie story because, despite what George says, that's not the way it was ever intended until now. That's just so people will actually accept them. The prequels are just like a "Making of..." documentary. The only purpose it serves is to explain how things got to the way they were in the first Star Wars. So why would you introduce your kids to the prequels first? If you ever buy a DVD of a movie you've never seen before, do you watch the documentaries about the movie before you watch the actual movie?

Didn't think so.

Post: #139837
Topic: Has anyone now second guessed the prequels
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139837/action/topic#139837
Time: 20-Sep-2005 4:54 AM

I'd happen to like my kids a little more than to do that to them.

Post: #139833
Topic: I think we REALLY dodge a bullet with Episode III. (read inside..)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139833/action/topic#139833
Time: 20-Sep-2005 4:44 AM

The remaining Wookiee scene is probably the compromise made out of that.

George: We can't have Han? Nobody likes that idea? *starts crying* Well, I gotta keep the Wookiee! Don't take away my Wookiee!

Everyone else: *sigh* You can keep the Wookiee.

George: Yay! Now let's talk about how Padme's going to die in childbirth!

Everyone else: *groan*

Post: #139312
Topic: The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139312/action/topic#139312
Time: 18-Sep-2005 12:03 AM

Well, he couldn't logically write the movies either... ^_~

Post: #139270
Topic: Worst changes to OT in '97 and '04
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139270/action/topic#139270
Time: 17-Sep-2005 4:39 PM

Yeah, warning shot... That does sound like the kind of explanation that George would come up with.

Too bad we already know it's because he wanted to make Han the kind of character who wouldn't kill someone in cold blood unless he was shot at first.

Or maybe it's simply because the technology of 1977 couldn't have two laser blasts come so quickly together, so they had to axe one of them, and poor Greedo was chosen as the victim. ^_~

Post: #139176
Topic: Silly Pics
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139176/action/topic#139176
Time: 17-Sep-2005 1:31 PM

MMMMM. Lois is hot!

Post: #139174
Topic: Unbearable HC
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139174/action/topic#139174
Time: 17-Sep-2005 1:26 PM

I know it's been said before, probably on this thread... hell, probably by me, but it doesn't make any sense because it implies that Anakin was never redeemed. I'd go into more detail, but... I don't feel like it. But I do agree it was a crappy job nevertheless.

Post: #139175
Topic: Revolution Controller SERIOUSLY REVEALED! NO JOKE!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139175/action/topic#139175
Time: 17-Sep-2005 7:28 AM

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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
I think a Hoth battle on the land would be more exciting. Has any game done that yet?

Yes... Battlefront.

Have a nice day. ^_^

Post: #139173
Topic: revenge of the sith font?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139173/action/topic#139173
Time: 17-Sep-2005 7:23 AM

Yeah, I hated that too. But I really went crazy when he decided to redo the OT logos in the same style. I nearly shit a brick. It's really a crappy logo to begin with, but it was just taken too far.