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#157034
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Was the Frankenstein Walk Shortened in ROTS DVD?
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
I do wonder, however, why everyone seems to hate Vader's "NOOOOOO!!!!!" so much, but forgets about Luke's equally ultra-cheasy edition of it in ESB.


Because there's simply something about a deep, booming, electronic-ish voice yelling that's just funny. I find those moments in the original trilogy when Vader grunts or yells to just sound weird. Plus, I never found Luke's scream to be that bad. Bad at all for that matter.
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#156790
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Attack of the Clones Menu
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I bought my Attack of the Clones DVD three years ago now when it was first released. I only found out a year ago, when the so-called Original Trilogy was released on DVD that each movie was supposed to have three different themes for the menu pages. After three years of owning that movie, I have only ever seen the Coliseum/Droid Factory motif, nothing else. So my questions are:

Is it known if any original release DVDs only had one menu option on them with only subsequent releases getting the full treatment? Does anybody else have a DVD like this? Is it just mine?

And what are the other menu themes for that movie?
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#156779
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HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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Yeah, they did abandon the Rita Skeeter plotline for the most part, opting instead to relegate her to just a minor nuisance. So for that purpose, she was funny enough. Another thing I didn't even think about them cutting until they got to the maze was the Blast-Ended Skrewt subplot. And I think that's a sign that the movie was condensed well when even people who know the book don't notice everything that's missing. I had just finished my preparatory reading of the book a few hours before I saw the movie, and I didn't even notice this until close to the end.

One mistake I did notice, though, was that the movie refers to Peter Pettigrew exclusively as Wormtail, even though that name was never attributed to him in the Prisoner of Azkaban movie.

And I have a question. Anybody notice this movie-only character? It was a little red-haired kid who looked kind of like a younger Ron and acted like Ron's version of a Colin Creevey, and his name was Nigel. I'm wondering why they added this character in. Is he a relative of a cast/crew member? I think I noticed in the end credits that his last name was Melling. Isn't that the last name of the kid who plays Dudley Dursley (who, coincidentally, didn't show up in this movie)?

And finally, yes, it was this book where Harry gives his thousand-galleon prize money to Fred and George. I'm sure they'll wrap it up somehow if they decide to cover it all. But the more important endstory plotpoint they skipped was the formation of the Order of the Phoenix and Sirius being vouched into the group by Dumbledore. Can't wait to see how they deal with that, but something tells me they'll just have them at the House of Black without any explanation as to why everyone's suddenly palling around Sirius.
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#156761
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HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156761/action/topic#156761
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Well, I finally saw it today. Much better than I was anticipating, I have to say. MY only gripes:

1. We don't get to watch the Quidditch World Cup

2. It pretty much gives away Tom Riddle Jr. from the get-go.

3. The music. John Williams's absence is far more painfully obvious than "Prisoner of Azkaban". The birth of Voldemort scene could have used much better music.

Other than that, very well done. I give kudos to Mike Newell. His directing sort of has a Terry Gilliam-ish feel to it.


I've seen it twice already. Definitely the best HP movie so far! None of the stuff they cut out was necessary to the plot, unlike POA, and it was all tied together very seamlessly. If I may address your gripes, Nanner...

1. The first time I saw it, I almost wished they had cut the whole World Cup thing since they seemed to rush through the entire sequence. The pacing seemed too fast. But on second viewing, maybe I'm more used to it, but it didn't bother me as much.

2. Don't you mean Barty Crouch, Jr.? If so, I totally agree. There's no mystery to it this way. Plus, he was very much different from the character in the book. And, finally, even though it would probably make the movie lag to do so, I kinda wished they would have explained his backstory more. What with him and Sirius in the last movie with neither of their escapes being explained, Azkaban seems like a very easy place to escape from in the movie world.

3. Um... unless I'm mistaken, which I very much doubt in this case, John Williams wasn't missed in Prisoner of Azkaban because he composed the music for it. But I have to disagree. I loved the soundtrack for this movie more than the other three, and I want to snag a copy of it as soon as possible. I love what they did with Williams's existing Hedwig's Theme, though.

**SPOILER**

This is really embarrassing, but Cedric's spirit's line of taking his body back to his parents has always made me a bit misty every time I read it in the books, but that whole sequence is so sad in the movie that I actually did cry, as did my girlfriend. Not vocally or anything... it's a theatre, it's dark, nobody has to know. ^_~ But when Harry comes back to the maze and the band is playing its cheery tune, that's the most effective part for me. Just... chilling.

**END SPOILER**

I love how this movie prominently featured more of the minor characters, like Fred, George, and Neville who had already been amply developed in the books by this point, especially Neville, but who had been tucked away to the sidelines as much as possible in the previous movies, especially Neville. My only problem with that is that I wish there had been a line between Harry and Dumbledore that Frank Longbottom was Neville's father and what his and Alice's fate had been. After going to that much trouble of setting it up (Moody showing the Cruciatus Curse, Neville next to the stained glass window), Karkaroff's reveal seemed to be a bit too quick for the casual fan to get. I'd like your opinion on this, DAYV, as you've only seen the movie.

And I liked all the stuff at the Yule Ball. It just does so much to show that, magic as they are, they're still teenagers with normal teenage concerns. Made me miss the torture that was high school.

But awesome movie. I'll probably go see it a third time.
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#156756
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Should GL have made the ST and then do the PT later
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156756/action/topic#156756
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
I don't want Lucas to do ANYTHING Star Wars ever again.

I just can't take any more.


Amen. Too bad it's never going to happen. Star Wars will keep going until George dies or nobody cares anymore. Which is sad. But there's a catch. Provided Star Wars is still profitable, I wouldn't be too surprised if it continued after his death. On the other side of the coin, since Star Wars is technically indepedent, George could continue pumping time and money into it even if nobody cared anymore. Which is even sadder.

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#156751
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Did anyone see The Apprentice last night?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156751/action/topic#156751
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
It becomes more and more painfully obvious that only America's stupidest citizens are on reality TV.


Now, I don't watch television anymore for that reason. "Who's the follish, the fool, or the one who follows him?" - or watches him?

Just, don't watch it. And it'll go away.


Very true. Never watched it. Never will. And as a soon-to-be struggling actor, I take offense that idiotic crap like that is keeping actors out of work.

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#156174
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HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156174/action/topic#156174
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Yeah, pretty much. People who don't mind the connotations of fantasy witchcraft associated with Halloween think Harry Potter is evil because it's the current, controversial thing to do while we've pretty much accepted Halloween as kid-friendly.

But, as I said in my last post, there is nothing different about the magic in the books than the magic in the movies. Actually, I take that back. A lot of the time, the movies try to accentuate the, "oh, look at the magic!" feel while the books, after Harry gets used to his new surroundings, treat it as if it is relatively mundane because it's so normal for them.
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#156165
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HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156165/action/topic#156165
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The magic in the books isn't really dark or, well, what I'd call realistic (not that I know much about that). Rowling has created her own world of fantasy-based magic, and it's really not that much different than in the movies, except that maybe one or two spells had their names changed for the movies for no apparent reason.

And if you liked the story-telling in the movies, dive right into the books. There is so much more depth there, especially in Prisoner of Azkaban, which, unfortunately, had to dump a lot of its backstory in order to keep running time down and keep the pace up.
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#156018
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HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156018/action/topic#156018
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I'm a Christian, and I see absolutely no problems with Harry Potter.

But I'm seeing the movie Friday afternoon. I got my tickets for it yesterday! And, in preparation, I'm reading the books again. I'm over halfway through Goblet of Fire right now, but seeing as how I have a 10 page paper and Japanese homework and Christmas show rehearsal, I have a feeling I'm not going to meet my goal of finishing the book again right before I see the movie, as I did with Prisoner of Azkaban.
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#155817
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Reasons to hate the Special Editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155817/action/topic#155817
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Originally posted by: sybeman
Now, let me get this straight. Gaffer says two different things -- contradicting things, at that (that there should be an epilogue scene ending the war, and that the war goes on for years afterwards) and Adam agrees with both. Why not contradict the first point the first time?

This goes back to "the fool or the fool who follows..." except that I don't think Gaffer a fool.


Well, thank you for not thinking me a fool. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I used to word epilogue to imply that this scene would take place far down the road, when the war actually did end. Maybe some montage of post-Death Star battles, etc. Or maybe stills from said battles with a narrational piece. But it might end up too convoluted and confusing, especially since George's style never allows for the unrealistic passage of time, like montages.

**USUAL DISCLAIMER** Not supporting change, just throwing out an idea. You know the drill. Kinda like fanfiction.
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#155430
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Reasons to hate the Special Editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155430/action/topic#155430
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I don't want any changes, either, but a lot of the argument over why the celebration on planets immediately after the destruction of Death Star II is completely stupid is the fact that it's impossible for the Empire to be completely dead by that point. There is no way in hell that people would be partying on Coruscant, the Imperial capital for crying out loud, right after DSII blows up! So that's why I say that the ending of Return of the Jedi, from any version, leaves things a bit too open ended and in only a slightly better position than they were after the first movie.

Just to make it clear: I am NOT lobbying for any changes (do I ever?!), I'm just admitting that even I find flaws with the OT and things that I think could have been done better.