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- #157878
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- The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157878/action/topic#157878
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Gaffer Tape
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- #157876
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- Happy Thanksgiving
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157876/action/topic#157876
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- #157875
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- Can someone explain to me Star Wars: Galaxies?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157875/action/topic#157875
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- #157872
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- Pretty Please, Mr Lucas!
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157872/action/topic#157872
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
"Pretty Please, Mr Lucas... Give up Star Wars to someone capable of handling it."
"Pretty Please, Mr Lucas... Give up Star Wars to someone capable of handling it."
"Pretty Please, Mr. Lucas... Give up Star Wars."
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- #157656
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- The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157656/action/topic#157656
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I hate that my grandmother won't live through the week.
I hate that my grandmother won't live through the week.
I'm sorry, Nanner. And from what I hear, my grandfather might be in a similar situation.

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- #157648
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- HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157648/action/topic#157648
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- #157619
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- Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157619/action/topic#157619
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- #157574
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- Was the Frankenstein Walk Shortened in ROTS DVD?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157574/action/topic#157574
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Sorry, AWK, I know he was asking the question to you, but I'm so close to 1,000 posts that I just couldn't resist answering!
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- #157573
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- If the O-OT ever came out, the future of SW is with the PT fans.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157573/action/topic#157573
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
Oh, I get you Gaffer. I just imagined a bunch of us with ill-fitting stormtrooper helmets on storming the curb in front of Graumann's
Oh, I get you Gaffer. I just imagined a bunch of us with ill-fitting stormtrooper helmets on storming the curb in front of Graumann's

I'm sure we wouldn't be the first to do that! ^_~
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- #157527
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- redeeming lucas
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157527/action/topic#157527
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Hard to come at this from a non-biased standpoint. But I have to admit that posts by The Bizzle really make me think. And it is easier to pay attention because, like a lot of us, myself included, doesn't come across with the attitude of a rabid dog carrying a bone, which, whether or not it's actually true, makes him seem more like a voice of reason.
I agree with Cable that I doubt Lucas really had that much to do with revolutionizing the visual effects industry. To be sure, he's bankrolling it, but in terms of creative input, I doubt he knows much about it. I agree also that he hasn't been sitting on his laurels. There is nothing easy about making a film, and he has written and directed three Star Wars prequels. The quality of those movies is not really what's at debate here, so I'm not even going to mention that. Whatever anybody thinks about them, I'm sure they took a lot of time and effort to create. And I suppose it's presumptuous of any of us to determine whether or not the man has changed. I do agree that he's changed in the way he thinks about his earlier works, and I'll defend my opinion tooth and nail that movies should be left alone once they're finished. Not just Star Wars, not just things that I like, but all movies. My girlfriend and I rented Charlie Chaplin's The Gold Rush and watched it last night. The first disc, the main attraction, was the 1940s re-release with sound, but I went straight to the special features on the second disc and watched the original silent version. But I'm letting myself get off topic here.
Anyway, I also don't agree that he's not making his own stories anymore, because, obviously he is. And I agree with Bizzle that maybe it is us who just don't like his stories anymore. Well, we certainly have legitimate cause to complain about that, don't we?
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- #157522
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- If the O-OT ever came out, the future of SW is with the PT fans.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157522/action/topic#157522
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
I didn't know there was a war going on, and that movie fans were fighting in it. What's the goal of this war? What beachhead are we trying to secure with these front lines? What's the 4-F test these "kinds of fans" need to pass before they can have a helmet and a rifle?
I don't want those kinds of fans up in the front lines with no opposition.
I didn't know there was a war going on, and that movie fans were fighting in it. What's the goal of this war? What beachhead are we trying to secure with these front lines? What's the 4-F test these "kinds of fans" need to pass before they can have a helmet and a rifle?

Haha, thanks Bizzle. Most of that was meant to be satirical anyway. Or at least exaggerated. But there is a rift. The majority of fans do recognize the rift between "us" and "them" whoever the us or the them may be. And I actually find the prequels to be admittedly entertaining. But it seems like most posters in this thread, myself included, are in agreement to give up on all things Star Wars beyond getting the OOT. Therefore, the legacy of Star Wars will be carried on the back of the "them" who support the changes and the ongoing continuation of all things Star Wars. And like you said, I don't think Star Wars fandom is going to die out simply because of the prequels. There is no evidence to show that it's just going to die out because a lot of us here think the prequels are inferior. We're just, most likely, going to stick around here complaining and not really be an active voice anymore.
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- #157520
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- Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157520/action/topic#157520
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- #157499
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- TV Shows on DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157499/action/topic#157499
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- #157498
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- redeeming lucas
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157498/action/topic#157498
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As the tagline for The Phantom Menace said, "Every Saga Has a Beginning". I agree. Every saga also has an end, too. Every story comes to an end. Film series, book series, TV series all end at some point because there's nothing else worth doing. Actors leave long-running TV series because they feel there's no more they can bring to their characters. Directors leave film series because they feel there's no more they can do with that world. It has to end sometime. I think he's holding on because he's scared to branch out. And I think we'll come to the point where Star Wars is basically like 24, filling in every single gap of time, finding out what every character does every second of his/her life. Please branch out. Please do something else. It's good for you. I swear.
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- #157489
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- If the O-OT ever came out, the future of SW is with the PT fans.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157489/action/topic#157489
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But with people like us gone, I suppose the only "active" fans will be the PT fans, and if Star Wars has to be continued to be milked, I don't want those kinds of fans up in the front lines with no opposition. Heh, I almost feel it's my moral obligation to continue balking until the end of time.
You know, in terms of nearly everything else in my life, I feel very young, but in terms of Star Wars, I feel very old because that's the group of fandom I'm lumped into. We're the cranky old crumudgeons who can't see the need for progress and flashy effects, and it's time we were put out to pasture. Bleh...
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- #157484
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- Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157484/action/topic#157484
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- #157366
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- funny gif...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157366/action/topic#157366
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Awesome find!
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- #157365
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- Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157365/action/topic#157365
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- #157364
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- Lucas's future changes for the OT to come... (with quotes)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157364/action/topic#157364
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- #157363
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- "You don't know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master"
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157363/action/topic#157363
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Originally posted by: Number20
Am I the only one who thinks that maybe we saw a bit too much of the power of the dark side? Or at least we should of seen more powers of the light side. In ESB, Luke asks if the dark side is stronger, Yoda says no, only easier and more seductive. But most every time in the PT, the dark side beats the light hands down. Plus, the dark side can limit the ability of the light to sense things? I would of liked a bit more of a balanced approach to things. It seems like in the PT, the dark side is much more powerful.
Am I the only one who thinks that maybe we saw a bit too much of the power of the dark side? Or at least we should of seen more powers of the light side. In ESB, Luke asks if the dark side is stronger, Yoda says no, only easier and more seductive. But most every time in the PT, the dark side beats the light hands down. Plus, the dark side can limit the ability of the light to sense things? I would of liked a bit more of a balanced approach to things. It seems like in the PT, the dark side is much more powerful.
Very good point. The rewards of the light side seem few and far between in the prequels besides seemingly the more noble thing to do. I guess it's kinda like white and black magic in RPGs, specifically Final Fantasy. But the power the dark side seems to have over the light side is horrible. "The dark side clouds everything." "Only the Sith knows of our weakness." "Our ability to use the Force has diminished." "The dark side clouds their judgement." Why can't the light side ever cloud the dark side's judgement? Huh?!
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- #157143
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- TV Shows on DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157143/action/topic#157143
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- #157141
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- Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157141/action/topic#157141
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- #157041
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- Lucas Did Not Think about It
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157041/action/topic#157041
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And that's all the we want. So hypocrisy.
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- #157038
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- Silly Pics
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157038/action/topic#157038
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- #157037
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- "You don't know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master"
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157037/action/topic#157037
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Well, after he believed he himself killed Padme, and he had killed the jedi, all he had left was his master, who he felt he had to obey. That's good enough explanation for me.
Well, after he believed he himself killed Padme, and he had killed the jedi, all he had left was his master, who he felt he had to obey. That's good enough explanation for me.
Once again, not seeing much choice there, which is the problem. He didn't choose the dark side. He just had nothing else going for him, so why not stick around for the next 20 years?
But I agree that we saw enough dark side powers for me to be satisfied. The only thing I didn't like is that every single Force-user is seen wielding a lightsaber. Yoda and Palpatine were the last two people I'd expect to use stuff like that, yet they end up in a duel against each other using lightsabers. When I grew up on the originals, I always thought that Yoda and Palpatine were just so strong in the Force that they didn't need to resort to hacking and slashing like the rest of them. They were on an ascended plane. "It appears that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force, but by our skills with a lightsaber." If Dooku's line has any weight to it at all, it led me to believe that the lightsaber and the Force aren't really connected. The ability to use the Force contributes to one's fencing skills, but it's not necessary. To me, it just seemed like Lucas was giving in to a lot of fans', "Ooh, lightsabers are cool!" mentality by sticking them all over the place. And, yes, they are cool, but I'd much rather see Palpatine shooting out lightning at Mace and throwing Senate chairs at Yoda than being forced into hand to hand combat. I've always felt that it seems beneath him.