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#159412
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Remember when.....
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Originally posted by: Warbler
and I what does that have to do with being in the top ten?


btw: I am impressed that you recognized the pic. Most people have to ask who the pic is.


I sadly admit that I didn't recognize William Daniels either. My girlfriend loves that movie, and she nearly "clubbed" me for not recognizing it immediately.
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#159411
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BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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I have to stick up for Adam here. Just because his opinion of a beautiful woman differs from someone else doesn't make him wrong. He's not doing anything that's borderline illegal anymore, so it's really just opinion versus opinion, and he's entitled to his opinion. I don't see anything creepy going on unless I just missed something.
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#159407
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phantom menace first thoughts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159407/action/topic#159407
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Originally posted by: CO

Anakin, should have been like a great athlete who is a wildcard, but was loved by the people and not necessarily loved by the Jedi. Lucas should have shown Anakin being heralded for being the top jedi during the Clone Wars, being the Michael Jordan of the galaxy, but his arrogance, like many star athletes, and their belief that they are indestructable, are the reasons for their downfall. Show him learn even greater powers from Palpatine, and make the audience feel that Anakin loves the darkside, but knows it is wrong deep down inside. Have the dream of Padme as a subplot, just something else to drive him there, not the sole reason. Anakin never turned to the darkside, he just wanted to save Padme, that was a real lame reason.

Sorry about the rant off topic, but once I start thinking of what if for the PT, I could go on and on......


I first just want to say that that's exactly how I felt too.

I was 13 when Phantom Menace first came out. I too bought my ticket ahead of time (To this day I still have the complimentary McDonald's coupon they gave me with the ticket). I went to see it with a friend who was also into Star Wars. I was a little wary of the existance of a prequel trilogy, that it would eclipse the popularity of the originals to new fans. But it was outweighed with the excitement of a new Star Wars adventure. We had a poem-writing assignment near the end of my 7th grade year (a couple of months before the movie was released), and I wrote mine in honor of The Phantom Menace (although it was actually a synopsis of the original trilogy... a looking back of sorts). I still have it at my mom's house. So I saw the movie with my friend, and I liked it. I admit it. I liked it. I didn't think it was as good as the originals, but I didn't have too many problems with it. I didn't mind Jar-Jar at all. I still don't, to be honest. And I didn't like the podrace until the last lap, and I think it's a horrible decision that they made it even longer on the DVD because it's just boring for longer. Most of my dislikes with the movie was about how it seemed that Lucas was obviously trying his best to make everything look better and cooler than the originals, and all he did was seem to break continuity with sleeker-looking ships and almost ridiculously powerful Jedi that just didn't make any sense to me. And I thought it would have been nice to have seen one hint that Anakin had a chance of turning to the dark side besides Yoda saying a few cryptic words with little real substance to back it up. But I pretty much think of it now the way I thought of it then. It looks pretty cool, and it's a decent movie, and it's entertaining, but it just doesn't hold a candle to the originals. And it also seemed like too much of a departure from Star Wars. If Star Wars takes place in a galaxy far, far, away, The Phantom Menace seemed far away from it.

Even though it's not part of the question, others have summarized their experiences with the other prequels, so I'll do so as well. I was 16 when Attack of the Clones came out. I went to see it with a different friend. And I left feeling pretty good about it. It started to seem closer to Star Wars. Things started to make sense. The things that happened in the movie were things that had actually been talked about in the originals, like the Clone Wars, for example. Anakin wasn't just this perfectly innocent boy with absolutely no chance of ever doing anything wrong. Obi-Wan grew a beard, so he looked more like Obi-Wan. I didn't even mind the love story stuff, as I was sappily in love at the time with someone who didn't give a shit, so I could relate to him. And I still don't think it's that bad, although I now get a cringe feeling at a few lines, like, "If you are suffering as much as I am, please tell me," and the whole thing could have been acted better. I liked how they finally showed evidence that the technology was not as good as how it was 20 years in the future (like the fighters not having built in hyperdrive engines). But my opinion of it has lowered some. The Boba Fett story seems pretty stupid, especially now that the New Zealand accent has infiltrated the original movies. I'm not sure why Lucas decided to go in that direction anyway, since it makes no sense. Did New Zealanders not exist in 1980, so he couldn't make Boba Fett the way he wanted? But I'm getting off topic. I always cringed when Boba Fett was simply called Boba. It just sounds kind of... stupid to me. And I thought the Yoda fight was cool at the time because he's Yoda and wow and blah blah blah, but now I think it makes no sense and diminishes the character. But I still find the movie entertaining enough to watch and enjoy.

I was 19 when I saw Revenge of the Sith, and I'm still 19, just for the record. It was the only prequel I saw in theatres more than once. I saw it with my girlfriend both times. She hated it. The first time I saw it, I liked it mostly. I felt for Anakin and Obi-Wan when the duel ended and right before Anakin interrupted Mace and Palpatine fighting. But the turn was unconvincing, as was the piss-poor reasoning behind it (trying to make Anakin more sympathetic by doing the wrong thing for the right reasons... for love of his wife and sheer gullibility rather than love of power and greed). It was a visual effects orgasm to the point where I stopped paying attention. I didn't even realize there was a Wookiee battle going on, and when I tried to watch it the second time around, I still stopped paying attention. And I thought that the lava got in the way of the actual lightsaber duel. General Grievous is the worst villain ever, and the subplot of chasing him was lame and detracted from the main story. Couldn't they have gotten Obi-Wan out of the way some other way? And I laughed at the term "younglings" and "NOOOOOOO!" and a Star Wars film has never unintentionally made me laugh. So in a way, Revenge of the Sith was the most satisfying prequel because it tied up the loose ends, and is a good movie on its own, definitely the best of the prequels, and I felt for the characters. But it's also the most disappointing because of all the bad moments and continuity misteps and bad decisions in an otherwise good movie.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, forgot to mention that I always thought the droids were out of place, and although I can see why George felt kind of obligated to bring back those Star Wars icons, I think the movies would have benefitted from that horribly implausible scenario. Yeah, they just always happen to be around? Yeah, right. As Anchorhead used to say, it just shrinks the universe. Oh, yeah, and the least they could have done was wipe R2's mind as well. If they're going to go for a copout explanation, they should at least do it right.
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#159403
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redeeming lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159403/action/topic#159403
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Well, then, why is it the problem of the original model that it doesn't match the one from ROTS? And I don't have my DVD with me, but I really didn't see that much of a difference between the two except maybe a slightly different paint job. I'm not trying to fight, I just never really noticed anything horribly different.


Like you said, the paint job is different. Well, I gues that could be explained because of the 20 year gap.


Yeah, that seems perfectly logical, and why I have no problem with either version. I was excited they actually built an interior set at all. Well, thanks for that opinion, but I still don't think a Tantive IV redo is necessary, especially not for the first movie since it came first.

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#159402
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Do you think Lucas really knows there is demand for the O-OT on DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159402/action/topic#159402
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
Originally posted by: juicerino
NEW PETITION IDEA:

send george lucas a dress.

for a contibution of just $1.00 you can help George get a brand new floral pattern dress
he can wear it around all the time, like the pussy that he's become.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its not that hard to release the originals just remaster the picture quality and re-rotoscope the lightsabers, remove those nasty matte lines, and there you go the OOT on dvd


Eh, I'd keep the old lightsabers and matte lines, or I wouldn't really consider it the original original trilogy. I love to see through the frame of my cockpit, I don't know about you!
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#158998
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Silly Pics
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158998/action/topic#158998
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v104/mst3k_stud/fatgirlshead.jpg

That is a damned riot!

Fat girls are like mopeds. They are fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you with one.


That fat girll is pretty hot.


Yeah, to be honest, I agree with you. She is pretty hot. And maybe it's just the caption getting in the way, but she doesn't really look that fat.
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#158996
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redeeming lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158996/action/topic#158996
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Well, then, why is it the problem of the original model that it doesn't match the one from ROTS? And I don't have my DVD with me, but I really didn't see that much of a difference between the two except maybe a slightly different paint job. I'm not trying to fight, I just never really noticed anything horribly different.
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#158992
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If the Prequels had been made first would they have succeeded?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158992/action/topic#158992
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
At first, it WASN'T, according to Lucas. Then it WAS, according to Lucas. He changed his story, and people like you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.


No, he said on the 1995 ANH VHS that he wrote the backstory so that he would be able to figure out what would happen to the characters in 4, 5, and 6.


Yes, and he also said in that same interview that the new projects would be based off that brief backstory, not pulled off the shelf because he'd written them twenty years earlier. And to say that he simply chose to do Episode IV out of a six episode story is just crazy. He basically refutes it in the same quote you're talking about. "In order to write the story, I had to come up with a backstory." Whether or not that's even true, I can't confirm. I basically believe that he had a general outline of what happened in the past, but it basically confirms that the backstory was simply that. The story was "The Adventures of Luke Skywalker."

It wasn't all planned out from the beginning.
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#158980
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redeeming lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158980/action/topic#158980
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You know, there wouldn't be so much hostility if you didn't come into this board with such a high and mighty attitude. You always say we're blinded by nostalgia, and you're part of a new generation of Star Wars fans that sees it for what it really is. That's what gets me miffed. And then when we argue, your response is that it's up to Lucas, and nobody else will ever know the truth for sure, even though you seem to be sure that we're just screwed up fans.

And I'm curious, why are you hating the Tantive IV? You barely see it for ten seconds. Besides the fact that it's a decent model. What do you want it to do? Do flips and wave? I'm very curious why you hate that model so much.
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#158979
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Rank the changes made to the OT from worst to best (or least worst?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158979/action/topic#158979
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
Because he is a damn well better actor than Hayden Christensen, and will put in better performance than he ever will, oh I forgot Hayden wasnt filmed it was just a costume test, wasnt it...


No, he was very aware that this was specifically for ROTJ. He confirmed it in an interview with AOL.


Before the DVDs were released, it was always reported that he was completely surprised when he found out he had been put in ROTJ. And the reason that Shaw works better is because he was the redeemed Anakin inside the suit when he died. No Shaw, no redemption, no point to your so-called Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker.

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#158752
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redeeming lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158752/action/topic#158752
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Film is a visual medium, and not just a still visual medium, so simply seeing screen caps won't make any difference either. And the special editions sometimes even ruin the pacing as well. I watched Empire on DVD yesterday, and since that is one part of the 2/3rds of the original trilogy you haven't seen, then it'll make a good example. Even before I turned on the SEs, I always thought that the Vader going back to the Executor was a dumb addition. And when I watched it the other day, I was immediately reminded why. First and foremost, it's just completely unncecessary. Second, the shuttle scenes replace actual important scenes of Luke being rescued. And, finally, what I'm getting at... the Falcon speeds away from Cloud City, persued by several TIE Fighters, and then...! Everything stops, and we sit around for 20 seconds to watch Darth Vader walk off his shuttle. Totally ruins the pacing. That's the kind of thing you actually need to see. Everything just flows so much better.
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#158256
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hayden christensen
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158256/action/topic#158256
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Eh, as someone learning to act, I don't quite agree. It does take a lot of skill and training and experience to be a good actor, and just having a good director can't always get you there. But, yes, having a bad director can be a big hindrance as well as a bad script. They're all little pieces to the puzzle, and they all have to fit together.

And wow, kev, that was quite a tirade.
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#158162
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If the Prequels had been made first would they have succeeded?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158162/action/topic#158162
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That is not the reason he didn't make the PT first!!! I thought that rumor had been squelched years ago! He didn't make the PT first because that wasn't the story he was trying to tell. His story was about Luke and the Rebel Alliance versus Darth Vader and the Galactic Empire, and what became the PT was simply the backstory that he as a writer needed.
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#158068
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Rankings
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158068/action/topic#158068
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Originally posted by: Warbler
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I feel cold... death. And pretty darn cool!


The dark side I sense in you.


Well, you know what that means! That means I can be put on the council without having to worry about all that Master crap! ^_~

And yes, sean, very RANDY!!! We're talking the dark side of RANDY!!!
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#158067
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Shadows of the Empire - a TV show idea?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158067/action/topic#158067
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Originally posted by: starkiller
I've never played the game, I wonder how closely it follows to the book.

If it was done right (that must be empahasized), I would not be opposed to seeing some of the books translated into a CGI TV show.


It doesn't really follow the book. The game sort of weaves in and out of the book. It follows Dash completely rather than the adventures of Luke and company, so it only really matches up when those two parties meet. It begins during the Battle of Hoth rather than the hologram conversation between Vader and Palpatine.

I haven't played the game in a while. At 11 or 12 years old, I was never able to beat it myself. I always got help from an older neighbor. But they had Dash do some pretty unbelievable things, like fighting an AT-ST and even the Slave I! And I'm not talking Dash in some kind of vehicle. I mean Dash the human being on his own taking on Boba Fett's ship. Crazy...