Gaffer Tape

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Post: #166728
Topic: You know you’re an O-OT fan when............
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166728/action/topic#166728
Time: 31-Dec-2005 1:54 AM

General Rieekan was always my favorite Rebel officer, even before I got to know him by his barking orders to me in Rogue Squadron.

Post: #166726
Topic: EU books: A funny Lucas contradiction
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166726/action/topic#166726
Time: 31-Dec-2005 1:21 AM

Heh, and I bet the Emperor called in advance: "Uh, I want some mood rain. I'm bringing my servent back, and it's kind of an emotional moment, so bring the lightning and torrential downpour. Thanks. Buh-bye!"

Post: #166721
Topic: Goosebump lines
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166721/action/topic#166721
Time: 31-Dec-2005 12:55 AM

Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
...when I'm listening to the soundtracks in the car (when I'm not pretending I'm flying an X-wing making a trench run ^_^)...

Oh my God! You do that too?!!

My favorite track to listen to is on my ROTJ CD and is track 12, the bonus music of "The Forest Battle." I will listen to that over and over again in my car, to and from class. I pretend that I'm right there flying my X-Wing. (For some strange Reason I'm always teamed up with Wedge... Proabably because I know Luke is on the Death Star.) It's a good thing its all back farm roads when I drive because traffic might get scared.

Oh and when you try the sync-up, it actually works perfectly. I was surprised too because for 8 years I just had my own images of what that music was to. Then I actually looked at what it said - "Alternate Binary Sunset: John Williams wrote the music but Lucas wanted to go in a different direction so he wrote the music differently." I was shocked. How could I miss this? So I linked it up and viola! It worked!

Well, like I said, I'm going to try it. Unfortunately, I don't have the ROTJ soundtrack. The last one I got was ESB, which is my favorite movie musical score.

Post: #166719
Topic: Modified from its original version
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166719/action/topic#166719
Time: 31-Dec-2005 12:35 AM

My special edition (the '97s) had the message as well, but, of course, that was because they were pan and scan as well, not because they were a different version of the movie.

Post: #166645
Topic: Questions about AOTC
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166645/action/topic#166645
Time: 30-Dec-2005 8:06 PM

I've always been under the impression that he's Dooku. Isn't he supposed to be?

And wouldn't Gunray be pleased that Padme's against the military creation act? I mean, the whole premise of the act is to get an army to fight off the separatist army, of which he is a part. I figured it went back to the Phantom Menace plotline of him and the rest of the Trade Federation's trade blockade of Naboo, and the fact that Padme helped to end it.

Post: #166644
Topic: Goosebump lines
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166644/action/topic#166644
Time: 30-Dec-2005 8:02 PM

Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Yeah, I have that CD, and it's a pretty cool track. I would try that myself by watching the video, but I'm too lazy to find exactly where it would fit.

If you mean you don't know how to link it up, it's a peice of cake. Get to the part where Owen is about to say "That's what I'm afraid of." The Binary Sunset music starts right about there. Now, for the alternate Binary Sunset music, it starts in the exact same spot. It runs the whole sequence just like the regular binary sunset music does. Just put on your head phones, put in your ANH copy and then press play at the same time. It'll line right up.

Thanks. I sort of assumed it had the same timing since it was scored for the same scene. But when I'm listening to the soundtracks in the car (when I'm not pretending I'm flying an X-wing making a trench run ^_^), I match up what I'm listening to to the images in my mind of what's going on. And I've tried that with the Alternate (just in my head), and I just can't seem to get a grab on it, so I guess I subconsciously decided that it just can't sink up. Yeah, that's not much for trying. But I think I'm going to try it now. Thanks, Jenny.

Post: #166641
Topic: Knights of the Old Republic II - I want my thirty bucks back...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166641/action/topic#166641
Time: 30-Dec-2005 7:57 PM

Heh, be my guest, but in a few years, I'll be replaced by DVD. ^_~

Post: #166640
Topic: Someone please explain why there is a 50's diner in the Star Wars universe...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166640/action/topic#166640
Time: 30-Dec-2005 7:54 PM

Yeah, thanks, twister. That version certainly uses a bit more logic than what we saw on the screen. Being destroyed definitely makes sense, and it makes her seem much less bitchy. And the one line they did keep, "I'm sorry, but the planet you're looking for doesn't exist," seems so much different in that context. Wow.

And the information that Kamino was destroyed makes it seem so much more... frustrating of a mystery. It's like, "Okay! Yeah! I found out where this dart came from! Oh, but the planet's destroyed. Now what do I do?" rather than, "Hmm, duhhh, this planet's missing. I don't get it. It should be here, but the librarian says it isn't, so it must not be."

Post: #166620
Topic: Goosebump lines
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166620/action/topic#166620
Time: 30-Dec-2005 6:58 PM

Yeah, I have that CD, and it's a pretty cool track. I would try that myself by watching the video, but I'm too lazy to find exactly where it would fit. It doesn't give the chills the current one does, but it's still pretty awesome, and I always listen to it when I play the soundtrack.

Post: #166619
Topic: Someone please explain why there is a 50's diner in the Star Wars universe...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166619/action/topic#166619
Time: 30-Dec-2005 6:55 PM

Yeah, I knew that, and I guess it does make sense, but I'd still think that the thought would occur to someone before then. Obi-Wan gets close with the incomplete thought, but that Jocasta Nu is the worst. "If it's not there, it doesn't exist," even though all the signs point elsewhere.

And good BTTF2 reference, Sessler.

Post: #166618
Topic: Knights of the Old Republic II - I want my thirty bucks back...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166618/action/topic#166618
Time: 30-Dec-2005 6:52 PM

Ooh, I didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing it out. Heh, and that's the first time anyone's referred to me as "tape". Most people here call me Gaffer. Not complaining, it's just an interesting change of pace.

Of course, now that I've posted again, I won't be 1138 anymore. Oh, well. We all have to move on sometime.

Post: #166600
Topic: Knights of the Old Republic II - I want my thirty bucks back...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166600/action/topic#166600
Time: 30-Dec-2005 5:27 PM

I loved the original Rogue Squadron, actually, and I kept on meaning to continue with the GameCube versions, but I still never have.

Post: #166597
Topic: EU books: A funny Lucas contradiction
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166597/action/topic#166597
Time: 30-Dec-2005 5:23 PM

Actually, I've always wondered what native single climate Coruscant would have had since it couldn't have always been a city planet.

Post: #166593
Topic: Why Boba Fett is now bunk
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166593/action/topic#166593
Time: 30-Dec-2005 5:17 PM

I always read that the braids were Wookiee scalps, actually, and that Jeremy Bulloch thought they were supposed to be ponytails for the character coming out of his helmet, and he had to be corrected.

Post: #166590
Topic: Modified from its original version
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166590/action/topic#166590
Time: 30-Dec-2005 5:14 PM

Well, union members are only allowed to work on union projects, that's the rule. Spielberg would surely have been fined heavily for breaking union rules. I do, however, believe that there is a way to obtain permission, though, but I think that also costs money, so I'm really not sure what the difference is. But, really, you can't just tell the DGA to... well, what Adam said. Sorry, I only have rudimentary knowledge of the Hollywood unions from school, and we only really covered SAG, not the DGA.

Yeah, ric, I read that little tidbit about a month ago, but it does remind me of my first Star Wars viewing experience, which made me more than a little confused. I was nine when I got the Faces set, and I didn't know the difference between widescreen and fullscreen, what have you. So I popped the tape in, and I watched that cool advertisement that I watch every time I watch the movies ending with telling us that it's the original version... one last time. And then, after the interview, it goes to the, "The following film has been modified from its original version..." and I was really quite confused by that.

Post: #166582
Topic: Someone please explain why there is a 50's diner in the Star Wars universe...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166582/action/topic#166582
Time: 30-Dec-2005 5:04 PM

I personally never took any offense at the diner scene. Sure, you could take it as some anachronistic horror, but like Scruffy (I think) said, there's definitely a chance that a '50s type diner could be conceived. And notice I said "type", because it's not exactly a '50s diner as we would have it. It has a Star Wars twist to it. That said, I don't love it, and I feel slightly embarrassed sticking up for it so much, but I don't see anything wrong with it.

To branch this thread out a little, though, the only problem I had with the plot that that scene involves is how it ends up being resolved: "Gravity's silhouette remains, but the star and all the planets are gone! I wonder what could mean that is?" Well, duh! I love the fact that the innocent mind of the child figures out the mystery, but it could have at least been a mystery. Instead, we have two Jedi scratching their heads when, duh, it's been erased from the archive, but just not very well!

Post: #166318
Topic: Lines you thought they said...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166318/action/topic#166318
Time: 29-Dec-2005 4:54 PM

Originally posted by: End Credits

Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

Han: "Look out! He's loose!"
Luke: "He'll kill us all!! Auughh!"

Oh, so that's what they say? I never could make that out, either.

Actually, Luke says, "He's gonna tear us all apart!"

I'm the kind of person who always watches everything with Closed Captioning, and even though it's not always accurate (especially on the Faces set... get that, the special edition actually has more accurate captions), it's helped me from having all these misinterpreted lines.

And, Adam, I also couldn't figure out that loose wire joke at first.

Post: #165910
Topic: digitally remastered
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165910/action/topic#165910
Time: 28-Dec-2005 12:45 AM

Because that's what makes it... film. It's hard to explain. Well, I do have an explanation that fits with Star Wars. In my opinion, the CG in The Phantom Menace stands out much less than those of the other two prequels, and that's because it was shot on actual film instead of the pristine perfect world of digital recording. Everything was so clear on digital that all the CG stuff just stood out, but a little bit of blur or grain made it more believable. Just like with the original trilogy, I never saw the boxes around the ships in spaces before I got the DVDs. On my tapes, they were imperceptible.

EDIT: That said, I don't mind pictures being cleaned up to remove age distortion (even though it's kind of fun to watch sometimes), or even to make it look somewhat better than it did originally. But I agree with battlewars that it can go a bit too far.

Post: #165559
Topic: The Sad State Of Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165559/action/topic#165559
Time: 26-Dec-2005 2:10 AM

I was into EU for a while myself, but there's just so much that I don't keep up with it anymore. I think for most people it's just easier to consider the films as all there is. It's much easier that way, and it should be all you need to be a Star Wars fan.

As per the original topic, I believe that Star Wars is in a sad state now. I really think that things like that and Star Trek should just be laid to rest. I mean, how many generations of Star Trek do we really need? How many different captains does the Enterprise need to have? Not every story needs to continue to probe and poke and prod. Do we need a sequel to Death of a Salesman, for example? Find out what happens to Willy Loman's grandkids! Uh-huh, yeah, sure. And there is a new American Pie movie coming out straight to DVD following the antics of Stifler's younger brother. There's always room to milk the cash cow as long as characters have younger relatives. Or any kind of relatives. Pass the torch off to somebody else. Doesn't matter if it is anything like the original as long as the main characters grandnephew and the series title is in it. Okay, I'm rambling now, but I'm tired. My point is, Star Wars should just end. That's it. The end. It shouldn't be tied to the cart and dragged through the dirt until there's nothing left of it.

Post: #164803
Topic: Lucas reveals the truth behind the prequel plotholes!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164803/action/topic#164803
Time: 22-Dec-2005 12:41 AM

Originally posted by: JennyS1138
There's one major inconsistency: the fact that when Marty travels into the future, his older self is there. That's impossible! If someone goes in a time machine and travels ahead 30 years, then that means that they would be "missing" for those 30 years. THere can't be 2 Marty's. Flight of the Navigator got that right. The kid's in a time machine for a few minutes and is returned 8 years in the future. He hasn't aged but to the rest of his family he was gone 8 years. Duh.....

Yeah, the commentary addresses that, and YIYF's explanation is correct, that Marty and Jennifer will return to 1985, therefore the 2015 they go to is an extrapolation of the past. It doesn't quite mesh with their theory of time travel (except that since the future isn't written, the future they go to is an assumed future based on the events of the present, so it could work), and in, more or less, the words of Bob Gale, "It wouldn't be interesting if we went to the future, and Marty and Jennifer weren't there."

Post: #164541
Topic: Lucas reveals the truth behind the prequel plotholes!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164541/action/topic#164541
Time: 21-Dec-2005 12:37 AM

Yeah, I loved BTTF2 as well. It was the first one I saw, and I think the alternate realities and going back behind the events of the first movie were really cool, even though I can point out all the inconsistencies.

Post: #164373
Topic: Lucas reveals the truth behind the prequel plotholes!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164373/action/topic#164373
Time: 19-Dec-2005 11:45 PM

Well, according to that theory, it would only "impede" with free will in an order to keep itself from being destroyed. Outside of time travel, there is a similar theory of eath, called Gaia Theory, in which people believe that whatever humans do to the earth, the earth is able to heal itself, or at least attempt to heal itself.

And in terms of the universe, it might not be so far-fetched to think it might be able to do that, especially if God were involved, not to try and bring religion into this topic, but it's a tangible point.

Post: #164370
Topic: Lucas reveals the truth behind the prequel plotholes!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164370/action/topic#164370
Time: 19-Dec-2005 11:24 PM

That's also the time travel theory utilized in DragonBall with Trunks. But, Adam, if there are branching timelines, how would you know they didn't exist since we are all confined to this single timeline?

And in response to your paradox argument, I have to draw on my vast knowledge of all things Back to the Future to make a rebuttal. Now, according to Doc Brown, the effects of a paradox would cause the dustruction of the universe due to it not being able to logically be accomplished. But there's also the "Space-Time Preservation Theory" that claims that the universe is able to keep itself on course (like a river) and keep things from happening that would lead to a paradox (similar to the Greek principle of dike), so, according to that theory, there would always be some obstacle preventing you from killing your own grandfather.

Post: #164341
Topic: Lucas reveals the truth behind the prequel plotholes!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164341/action/topic#164341
Time: 19-Dec-2005 9:40 PM

Well, it depends on your theory of time travel. Some say that time traveling leaves "shadows" of its existence. Therefore, whether or not Ben had any inclination to time travel in the revised timeline, the time traveling would already have happened.

And then there's also the theory of a fixed timeline, in which all effects of time travel have already been implemented, and there's no way to change anything.

Post: #164252
Topic: McCallum comments on the TV series and the prequel special editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164252/action/topic#164252
Time: 19-Dec-2005 1:26 PM

I still don't think the intent is clear at all, though. I mean, if I hadn't gone into the movie knowing that Qui-Gon's secret message was learning how to become a Force ghost, I would have had very little idea what the hell his "special training" was supposed to entail. It worked for me, and the first time I saw it, I was relatively excited, but then I stepped back and thought, "Wait a second. They didn't actually tell me anything. They didn't even allude at anything all that well." It's just so vague and practically useless.