Gaffer Tape

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Post: #207935
Topic: ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207935/action/topic#207935
Time: 9-May-2006 4:22 PM

Oh, yeah, you're right! Each tome was divided into two parts! You got me there, Bizzle! I need to read those again.

Post: #207880
Topic: The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207880/action/topic#207880
Time: 9-May-2006 1:08 PM

I hate that I only got an hour of sleep today because of finals.

Yeah, I hate finals. I hate that I have three finals (well, now only two because I've already taken one) today.

Post: #207878
Topic: The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207878/action/topic#207878
Time: 9-May-2006 1:06 PM

I've thought of another worry. This isn't bitching or whining, so don't even start with me. It came to me when I thought about how much more noticeable the garbage mattes around the TIE fighters were on DVD then they'd ever been before. What if the whole reason they're releasing them side by side is to "restore" the picture on the originals so much that the matte lines and garbage mattes stick out like sore thumbs, hundreds of times more than they ever were originally. I stand by wanting them there, as opposed to them being digitally cleared up, but they were hardly ever noticeable to me. But what if they purposely make them stand out so much with DVD technology that you can't help but think, "Wow. Look at the inferior technology." I mean, that's exactly what they want us to think. This is just a little conspiracy theory on my part, but you never know. Just something to throw out there.

Post: #207873
Topic: In defense of George Lucas!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207873/action/topic#207873
Time: 9-May-2006 1:00 PM

Originally posted by: CO

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Loved your post as usual, CO. I have to call you one minor discrepancy, though, since I'm such a huge BTTF fan. The "To Be Continued..." wasn't added until it was released for home video when they knew there was going to be sequel. And that's why you don't see it on the DVDs, because they were determined to get the original versions released (which is why I loved them, even though I grew up on the altered (and, for the sequels TV broadcast altered) versions). What Zemeckis said was that the cliffhanger ending (which would admittedly go well with a "To Be Continued..." was supposed to be a joke.

You're right, my mistake. I never saw it in the theater in '85, I remember renting it in the summer of '86 and saw to be continued....and I was hyped for a sequel. God, I sound like a SW PT fan, not knowing my facts on the Back to the Future Series! I guess I should stick to SW related stuff..........

Don't worry about it. It was just nitpicking on my part, because you got the general gist, you just messed up the pivotal detail. I'm too big of a nerd to have let it slide. ^_~

Post: #207871
Topic: ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207871/action/topic#207871
Time: 9-May-2006 12:59 PM

Don't be silly. Lord of the Rings doesn't have six parts!

Post: #207709
Topic: In defense of George Lucas!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207709/action/topic#207709
Time: 8-May-2006 9:06 PM

Loved your post as usual, CO. I have to call you one minor discrepancy, though, since I'm such a huge BTTF fan. The "To Be Continued..." wasn't added until it was released for home video when they knew there was going to be sequel. And that's why you don't see it on the DVDs, because they were determined to get the original versions released (which is why I loved them, even though I grew up on the altered (and, for the sequels TV broadcast altered) versions). What Zemeckis said was that the cliffhanger ending (which would admittedly go well with a "To Be Continued..." was supposed to be a joke.

Post: #207697
Topic: ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207697/action/topic#207697
Time: 8-May-2006 8:45 PM

Heh, well, at least we agree on something, marioxb! Just not the archival purposes only and liking the special editions better than the originals. ^_~

Post: #207575
Topic: How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207575/action/topic#207575
Time: 8-May-2006 1:48 PM

I consider FX cleanups (which include replacements because a lot of them were) to be '97 SE changes (because, duh, that's when they were implemented) and "original vision" crap because that's why he did it. He didn't feel the original effects were good enough. They're changes. And I don't want them. Yes, you can have them, some of them look nice, but they don't belong in the originals. Pure and simple.

Hooray for matte lines! Matte lines for 2006! Re-elect garbage mattes! Transparencies as running mate!

Post: #207573
Topic: Was the FULL Biggs/Luke Yavin 4 scene in the 77 TE?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207573/action/topic#207573
Time: 8-May-2006 1:45 PM

Yeah, it is a bit of a fast change. I never noticed R2 was even in that scene before. I'll have to go back and look. I have to admit, though, that that was one of the only SE changes that I like, because Biggs needed an introduction. I still don't want it in September's DVDs, though!

Post: #207552
Topic: FS: Han Shot First T-shirts
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207552/action/topic#207552
Time: 8-May-2006 11:25 AM

Double, triple, and quadruple eek followed by a, "Wash your mouth out with soap!"

Post: #207501
Topic: How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207501/action/topic#207501
Time: 8-May-2006 3:44 AM

If the special edition had simply been that, I wouldn't be nearly as upset. It still wouldn't be the original version, though, which is what we all claim to want. Hey, I'd be all for it if he wanted to release a "cleaned-up" version next, as long as I get what I've been waiting for all this time. However, I won't be buying that version. These DVDs are the last Star Wars trilogy purchases I'll be making no matter what format comes out in my lifetime, and the only way George can get me to buy them again after this is to break into my house and smash them with a hammer and keep me from finding out it was him who did it. ^_^

Post: #207499
Topic: Rankings
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207499/action/topic#207499
Time: 8-May-2006 3:39 AM

I wish you the best in your upcoming endeavors and recent problems, YIYF, and I hope to see you frequenting the boards again. And know that everything I say is friendly comraderie, just like what you do with me. Happy travels!

Post: #207497
Topic: STAR WARS - Enhanced HD & O-OT HD Packs... some suggestions...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207497/action/topic#207497
Time: 8-May-2006 3:36 AM

Welllll *cracks knuckles*, I can certainly try, if you're willing! ^_~

And I'm glad to have helped you out there, G.

Post: #207495
Topic: Original Trilogy DVD my ideas
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207495/action/topic#207495
Time: 8-May-2006 3:34 AM

What's Malibu?

Post: #207494
Topic: What scene in the (O-)OT do you hate/dislike the most?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207494/action/topic#207494
Time: 8-May-2006 3:33 AM

I agree. I was never especially fond of the concept from the beginning, although, at 11, I found Jedi Rocks to be quite catchy, I admit...

Post: #207491
Topic: How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207491/action/topic#207491
Time: 8-May-2006 3:30 AM

Sorry if I came across the wrong way. Your opinion doesn't bother me. It just shocked me when you stated that you'd accept and encourage them on what's supposed to be an original theatrical cut, which, in my opinion, defeats the purpose. I'm certainly not trying to add to the body count that the past few days here has mowed through. Our opinions of what we want just differ. And that doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother you.

EDIT: The only thing that does trouble me is worrying that Lucasfilm might also consider cleaned up FX to not be straying off from "original" and feel obliged to "fix" it.

Post: #207488
Topic: ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207488/action/topic#207488
Time: 8-May-2006 3:24 AM

All I know is that the statement said these will be just what would have been seen in theatres in '77, '80, and '83. That should mean no "enhancements," "fixes," or any other synonym you want to use. If you want those, they've already been done. I just want them to do what they say they're going to do. Then I'll be happy. And they said no changes, so I expect no changes. Theatrical cuts=theatrical cuts.

Post: #207485
Topic: How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207485/action/topic#207485
Time: 8-May-2006 3:17 AM

I'm not saying it necessarily hurts the film, but, in my opinion, it keeps it from being the original versions, which is what they're claiming them to be. I'm enjoy special effects too, and the redone Battle of Yavin wasn't bad, and the removed matte line on the rancor was impressive-looking, but I simply want the movies to be the way they originally were, and removing those matte lines, and filling in those transparencies are changes, pure and simple. And if this release is going to live up to its hype of "groundbreaking but dated," then they'd better have them.

Post: #207482
Topic: The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207482/action/topic#207482
Time: 8-May-2006 3:14 AM

Wow, I go away for a weekend and look what happens. A lot of bickering and such. However, I think the "whiner patrol" are the ones who have really gotten out of hand and lost all civility. They're the ones in the huff telling people to "fuck off" and "be grateful." It seems to me that the ones who are "complaining" are simply debating what the details of this set are going to be. True, there are some real complainers (after reading through 3 consecutive pages of text-heavy posting, I'm not even going to try to remember who you are or what you said). There are so many possiblities and so many points of everybody's opinion that I agree and disagree with. I'm not too demanding. The only thing I truly demand is that it truly be the original. I want no matte lines erased, no changes inserted. That's what they promised. I'd prefer all three of the original mixes. I'd settle for any one of them. And I want a good picture. I don't know what most of the technical terms mean, but I want a good DVD image that's at least somewhat better than any existing version. Jim Ward claims that they're good. They don't have to be completely pristine or crystal clear. Just something that looks nice and looks like they put any kind of effort into it. My hope is that zombie is right. But we don't know yet. You can keep your brand new 5.1 mixes or whatever the heck you're talking about.

Branching off topic, though, what I hate most about the whiner patrol is how they always tout the argument about, "Well, so what if it's screwed up? They'll fix it next time around for the (insert next anniversary here) release." Is that the dumbest logic ever? If I buy something, I want it to be good, and if it's not good, I should be monetarily compensated for it. I shouldn't get relief in the fact that I can just shell out another $70 two years down the road to get everything fixed. What motivation does Lucasfilm have to get it "right" if fans just have this shrugging, forgiving attitude and willingness to shell out for their next incomplete effort. If we want a good product the first time around, we have to demand it! We have to stop being so willing to buy every attempt!

So, to the boards, I agree with CO. This is our Empire Strikes Back era. We have to band together more strongly than ever, or else we risk falling apart. By all means, keep speculating what these releases are going to be, but don't go at each other's throats over it. I have been a member of this board for almost a year, and I certainly don't want Jay to dismantle the whole thing because he can't stand to see so much fighting. So everyone could stand to calm down... especially the people who are hypocritically bitching about whiners and complainers.

Post: #207468
Topic: In defense of George Lucas!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207468/action/topic#207468
Time: 8-May-2006 2:30 AM

I'm not sure if the opinions that the complaining about the news is referring to me, but I'd like to speak anyway. I certainly hope it's not because I don't feel that I am reacting to the news in the "wrong way." If it's referring to the more extreme comments, I can't speak for them, just for myself. I have, however, expressed my concern about whether or not this set will be what they claim it to be, or what my imagination and goals hope it to be. I've also wondered aloud the reasoning behind them suddenly releasing it. I don't see how that's being ungrateful. It's being a smart consumer. There has been so much talk over the years from so many members here complaining about how the so-called "Lucas fanboys" eat up everything that Lucas serves up to them, blindly following his whims. Well, if we just eat this up without questioning, doesn't that make us exactly the same, except that we eat up the OOT while the others eat up the SE and PT? But don't confuse questioning with complaining, as I think a lot of you have. Just because some people are asking questions about the set and putting forth what they want it to be doesn't mean we're being ungrateful. We're having the same voice we've always had. This is Lucas's one shot. If he messes this up, I'm sure you'll be angrier than anybody else. And remember that I said if. We shouldn't necessarily assume that they'll be screwed up (even though his previous efforts have proven to the contrary); nor should we automatically assume they'll be right, either. We simply don't know enough to make any kinda of judgements. It's too early. Me? I'm excited about the possibilities. And you won't see me complaining if the sound isn't quite good enough or the picture isn't as amazingly vibrant. I will, however, throw a fit if I find out that a single frame of any of the films has been altered by Lucas's digital paint box. That's all I'll complain about. And considering that we all want the original versions, I don't think I'm voicing a dissenting opinion here. That's what we all want, and that's what we all expect. And, in the immortal words of Uncle Owen, if George doesn't deliver this time (after a decade of baiting us and making fun of us and what we love, waiting until we're rabid and mobilized to finally release it, which makes me wonder why you're all so quick to immediately forgive everything) then "there'll be hell to pay."

Post: #207399
Topic: Finally At Peace With Star Wars...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207399/action/topic#207399
Time: 7-May-2006 11:33 PM

Yeah, but our adventure's better. ^_~

Post: #207396
Topic: This is funny - Audience reaction to first SW trailers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207396/action/topic#207396
Time: 7-May-2006 11:29 PM

Heh, yeah, I think I've read that somewhere before, but good fiind!

Can I take it you're some kind of Firefly fan...?

Post: #207392
Topic: How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207392/action/topic#207392
Time: 7-May-2006 11:25 PM

Why would you want FX cleanups on the originals?! Like you said, isn't that what the so-called "Saga" edition is for?

Post: #206909
Topic: Sage's Cantina - Celebrate the Liberation
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206909/action/topic#206909
Time: 6-May-2006 12:17 AM

I sense a barfight brewing! Cheers this is not!

Post: #206870
Topic: ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206870/action/topic#206870
Time: 5-May-2006 10:27 PM

Originally posted by: Davis
Is it just me, or did they put back the paragraph about the original title crawl?

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html

Wow, it is back! That makes me feel a lot less unease. I don't know why they took it away, but it was scaring me into thinking they were going back on their position. Maybe they saw us bitch and worry about it enough to put it back. Or maybe I'm imbuing us with far too much power. But it would be nice to think that!