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#208343
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John William's Opinion on the Special Editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208343/action/topic#208343
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I've heard interviews with him on the DVD (which you should have) that state that he didn't consider the movies to be suited for widescreen, and that he shot them in 1.33:1 because more people would end up seeing the movie on video anyway. Last time I brought this up here, someone proposed that he could have been referring to 2.33:1 as wide rather than 1.88:1 (which is the ratio the widescreen version of it is in), which could be a possibility. I personally prefer the widescreen versions, and I own them that way on DVD, but in this case there is nothing wrong with the fullscreen, and in terms of your versions, less wrong with the fullscreen.

But it gets even more complicated than that, I just remembered! The special effects shots were filmed in a 1.88:1 ratio, so you're actually seeing the full image of special effects shots in the widescreen version while the fullscreen version crops them! So basically, in either version, you're losing some parts of the picture... which sucks.
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#208311
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How "original" do you think it is going to be...? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208311/action/topic#208311
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That's similar to what I've said. The 2004 DVDs were the first time I ever noticed the garbage mattes (which is a totally different from matte lines) because the picture had been "cleaned up" so much that now they were visible. I don't want them removed. I just want them at the same kind of imperceptable to the casual eye that they'd always been, if that makes any sense. And almost every model was done in space, so the matte lines (aside from the rancor and slightly on the snowspeeders) were rarely ever perceptable anyway. I worried in another thread (or maybe it was this one) that maybe they'd accentuate those things for the DVD just so the 2004s would look better in comparison. I don't want that, but I don't want them removed either because that would be a change. If I want to see a nice-looking rancor arm for two seconds, I can just pop in my 2004 DVDs, of which I'll have two copies come September. Otherwise, I'll take the line.
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#208235
Topic
John William's Opinion on the Special Editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208235/action/topic#208235
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Yes, the fullscreen version shows more in this case. In most open matte cases, though, the widescreen is still the better way to go, because it was shot that way simply to be easier to carry over to home video (before consumers cared about widescreen), and the directors usually didn't pay attention to the edges of the frame resulting in things like boom mics and other mistakes being in the frame. In this case, Zemeckis has sometimes stated things to the extent that he intended the movie not to be wide, so it's debatable. There aren't any mistakes in the full frame. But, yeah, that explains the whole misframing fiasco in the first place because they were covering up the edges of the picture in wrong places omitting important information.
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#208222
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Any other films...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208222/action/topic#208222
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Yeah, and American Graffiti was also slightly digitally altered, so I guess there's not a single Lucas movie he hasn't tampered with.

The original 1943 Batman serial was heavily censored in 1960s with a new narrator and several overdubbed or cut lines to remove any anti-Japanese content (it was very much a war propaganda film, so the slurs were heavy). It also caused a lot of the music to be replaced since they didn't have an isolated score. It was released that way to home video in 1989 or 1990. However, the original version was finally released to DVD last year. Ironically, it was Sony who released it, since they now own Columbia who made the movie. I own both versions.
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#208215
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the SONY press conference.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208215/action/topic#208215
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Win, it's not that they don't think it is important. It is just a lot cheapter to go without it.


I know HD doesn't matter to me just like online gaming didn't matter to me last generation (and still doesn't). Like what was said earlier in the thread, they're all just gimmicks. Did the PS2 need a DVD player? No. It's a video game machine. Did you see a VCR on the NES? Not to say it wasn't cool, but it was just a bells and whistles selling point. Nintendo is just doing what it exists to do: make games.
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#207938
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207938/action/topic#207938
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Originally posted by: Anchorhead
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
But what if they purposely make them stand out so much with DVD technology that you can't help but think, "Wow. Look at the inferior technology." I mean, that's exactly what they want us to think. This is just a little conspiracy theory on my part, but you never know. Just something to throw out there.

I'm sorry to say, It's crossed my mind also. I hope that's not the case.

Now that someone else is worrying about it, that means I wasn't crazy for worrying about it after all - crap, now I really have to worry about it.



Whew, and I feel better that I wasn't the only one thinking it.

And The Bizzle, I agree that Lucas probably isn't pulling a "nyah, nyah" and actively fighting against us. But a lot of the things he has been quoted as saying about the original trilogy and fans of it doesn't do much to keep me from thinking that at least a side goal apart from appeasing us is to finally prove once and for all that he's been right about his versions. And this is going to be especially true for the younger fans who have never seen the originals before but have only heard Lucas talk about "incomplete films" and his "original vision." I'm sure he'd be thrilled if they were released side by side with his current best update only to have the "younglings" think the whole thing is stupid and wonder what we were complaining about all this time when surely George was right about the newer versions being better. That would be the ultimate victory... not against us but for his cause. So I don't agree that there's no battle, just that George isn't necessarily fighting against us. However, his motivation and goals do oppose us.