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#230000
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Confession: My favorite movie is ROTS
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230000/action/topic#230000
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But what if, having performed your ritual and chosen your current favourite movie, the chosen movie was an older film, possibly looking a little dated, and maybe even containing no CGI ? Surely you would have to pick again!


Well, I must live by my system. So I'll suffer for a few days, and then I'll just have to do it again a few days later when my attention span wanes. Remember, I do it two to three times a week!
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#229998
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Anyone got the original 'theatrical' release of TPM or AOTC?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229998/action/topic#229998
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Originally posted by: SKot
Originally posted by: russs15
In my opinion, the TB releases are the best Ep 1 theatrical and OT SE versions available.
I guess we could call these definitive, then, at this point. I can't stress enough how important these are to preservation efforts. They are now more of an endangered species than the OOT, in my book. But I really hope something similar turns up for the theatrical version of Episode 2.


Finally, somebody agrees with me. I may not think the prequels are too great, especially compared to their predecessors, but I still believe they need to be preserved from Lucas's tinkering. Am I the only person who thinks that the changes to the DVD version of TPM are just awful?!

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#229937
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229937/action/topic#229937
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle

Hey, Gaffer Tape! Sure beats debating Christian terminology, huh? Sorry about that, by the way. I read back my last post and it was a little... histrionic. I had always assumed that virgin birth and immacculate conception were more or less synonymous but, to be honest, I don't care enough about it to discuss it further. As you've said, we all know what I was trying to say, and that's the main thing, ain't it?!


No big deal, man. I hope I didn't come across as too harsh. But I used to think they were referring to the same thing, too, so I'm just trying to do some looking out.
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#229934
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Confession: My favorite movie is ROTS
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229934/action/topic#229934
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Um, you're entitled to your opinions, but that is a damned weird way to pick a favorite movie. Why can't you pick it some normal way, like I do? See, for me, I go to my closet, and I pick whatever happens to be the third t-shirt from the right. Then I find DVD cover art that looks similar to the t-shirt. After that, I divide by pi, and I have my favorite movie of all time! I do this at least two or three times a week, mind you.
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#229847
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Quit Whining
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229847/action/topic#229847
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Because your very first post was nothing but an insult to all of us!!! You called us whiners. You called us *giggle* communists. You inferred we were 40-year-old virgin nerds. You called us selfish bastards. You told us to shut up. And you told us we didn't believe in free speech.

Why do you seem so surprised that the welcome wagon didn't come to greet you?
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#229846
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229846/action/topic#229846
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Because you didn't bring up any of the real contradictions. There are contradictions, some of which I brought up in my last post that you didn't feel the need to address.

Ben (ROTJ): When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot, but I was amazed at how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong.

Read that line while you have images of TPM in your head. Does that really seem to match up with this?

Obi-Wan (TPM): The boy is dangerous. The council senses it. Why can't you?

Doesn't sound very amazed to me. Does he to you?

New Emperor scene: Well, I just want to ask you why you think it's better to watch them in numerical order. Since the prequels exist solely to explain the events in the original trilogy, doesn't that ruin the emotional impact? Also, the prequels contain so many "cool" in-jokes to the original trilogy that you simply wouldn't get if you didn't watch the originals first.

The big contradiction. How in the world does Leia remember her mother if her mother died three seconds after she was born? The way ROTJ Leia talks about her, it sounds like they were together for at least a few years before she died. It simply does not make sense that Leia would remember her and Luke not if they were both newborn infants. Explain that one, please.
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#229841
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Quit Whining
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229841/action/topic#229841
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And why is it that if anyone actually doesn't mind what Lucas does with his movies, it means they're "tongue is in Lucas' rectum?" So I can't have an opinion supporting Lucas unless I'm in love with him or sexually attracted to him, right?


Honestly, there are several long-term members here who don't mind Lucas changing his movies. And no one gets pissed at them. You know why? Because they don't come here insulting those of us who do prefer the originals.
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#229838
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229838/action/topic#229838
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Originally posted by: Whiners
You know, I'm sick of people saying this crap about contradictions. Okay, I will explain every contradiction I've heard about, and why it's not contradicting, and if there are any I left out, then go ahead and tell me what I did leave out and I will explain that.

Well, how kind of you, Mr. All-Knowing and All-Seeing. There's no need to be condescending, alright?

Obi-Wan saying that he had two pupils, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader: He said this in order to make the tale sound more dramatic to Luke and the audience, claiming that Darth Vader was a different pupil of his, showing that Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker knew each other.
Obi-Wan not telling Luke his father was Vader: Okay, ever since the prequel trilogy, many mentally retarded people have been asking this for some odd reason. It was a fucking secret, they're not going to change that just because the prequel trilogy came out and not let Luke know his father was Vader.

Honestly, I agree with you. I never considered that to be a contradiction caused by the prequels. So your point is moot to me.


Obi-Wan claiming he was trained by Yoda and not Qui-Gon: Why exactly would Luke need to know about Qui-Gon? He's in the snow, he's trying his best to stay alive, why would Obi-Wan say "Run to Dagobah, and find master Yoda. Oh and Qui-Gon taught me as a padawan."


Not necessarily a contradiction, but did you ever think that maybe Qui-Gon was a pretty useless character to begin with? The contradiction lies in that Qui-Gon's character is suspiciously like how Ben described himself in the original movies. You know, impressed at Anakin's flying skills and his strength with the Force? Hmm, in TPM, it seemed that Qui-Gon thought all that, and Obi-Wan thought he was a dangerous, pathetic lifeform and only decided to train him when his dying master guilt tripped him into it. Also, and this is just my personal opinion, but Padawan is a stupid word. As are Youngling and Dooku.

The new emporer scene: Have you ever thought maybe Vader asks "how is this possible" because he's just in disbelief that a Jedi gave birth when it's against the Jedi code? I'd be surprised too.


But he is the Jedi! He knew his wife was pregnant! He knew it was against the code. I'm not sure how this argument of yours makes any sense. Once again, I've never said that scene contradicts anything in lieu of the prequels. It was just totally unnecessary and contradicts things within its own movie.

"Jedi Rocks" being a song about Jedi after the extermination: Jabba knows about Jedi. Remember when he tells Bib that he was fooled about a Jedi mind trick? Jabba's lair is very secretive, there are absolutely no imperials there. So why not sing a song about Jedi? Now if Jedi Rocks was played in a cantina or something, that'd be a different story. Also note that even if there were stormtroopers there, they probably don't even know what Jedi are either, nor that they are supposed to be extinct. That's something only people who lived during the prequel trilogy would know.


First of all, I really don't know this. Perhaps you do. Is "Jedi Rocks" really a song about Jedi in the first place, or is that just what it was named in the real world? Personally, I don't find anything contradictory about this. It's just a damned stupid song and a completely unnecessary change.

So most of the "contradictory" points you brought up... aren't really contradictory at all. You can try again if you want to unless you want me to help.
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#229830
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Quit Whining
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229830/action/topic#229830
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Trolls are nothing new to this site. I mean, we have JediRandy right now, after all. But Randy's just obnoxious. At least Randy acts like he has some intelligence. This Whiners guy has said nothing to make me think there's an original thought in his head. He's just trying to stir up trouble.
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#229813
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Quit Whining
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229813/action/topic#229813
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Damn, you're an idiot.

First of all, no, your post is not going to be deleted, yet you already complain about communism like you see this kind of thing happen every day on this site.

Plus, it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about, especially since we are not getting the movies exactly as they were presented in theatres. If you'd bothered to do any research before you decided to come here and make a fool of yourself, maybe you would have known that.

As for whining, I'm sure most people here would disagree with you on that. But even if we are, that is our right, just like it's George's right to change his films. I don't see how our "whining" would even bother you in the first place. But apparently you have no life and get your jollies by attacking those whose opinions are different from yours.

I wish you and your recently-lobotomized brain the best of luck in the future.

And if you can learn to act with any shred of civility and maturity, I'm sure you'd be welcome to post here.
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#229807
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229807/action/topic#229807
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Sigh. We know what you're saying. And I agree. It's stupid that he made Anakin a virgin birth. You're not offending any Christians. You're simply using a different Christian term to describe it. An incorrect one. That's all we're saying. You're not being reckless with it. You're just using one Christian term to describe a situation that's completely different.

To recap: Virgin birth and immaculate conception are two different phenomena.
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#229804
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We're Still Immature Whiners to MSNBC
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229804/action/topic#229804
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Originally posted by: CO
This stuff doesn't bother me. There is always going to be someone who looks at us as worrying about this stuff too much. I love the OT movies, and I do what I can to get the movies put out in the right way they should be, but that is all we can do. Don't get mad if someone jokes about us needing to 'get a life', cause it is a hobby to all of us who enjoy it, nothing more nothing less. The difference is our hobby's creator has totally dissed us so we have to be a bit more vocal about things. People have always looked upon SW fans as goofy or weird in one way or another, even in the OT glory days, but I have never let that ruin my enjoyment that I feel they are missing out.

What I am trying to say is that I am trying to not get furious anymore of this stuff, and just do what we can, and so be it. Lucas is a jerk, and the O-OT set in September is what it is. I will keep fighting and won't give up, but I am done being bitter, cause Lucas has already lost a lifelong fan. Just read my sig.


It doesn't make me furious or anything. It's just that a lot of people are expecting the general press to be in an uproar when these low-quality discs come out. I mean, sure, it's just one article, but I thought it'd be interesting to point out the kind of information that some people will be getting.