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#1315273
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread - * <strong>TROS SPOILERS WITHIN</strong> *
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sade1212 said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwWrmSP65lM

I’ve seen it. Unfortunately it’s not quite well done enough to implement into the film itself since it’s clear that the saber is composed of still images tracked over the original. I’m not entirely sure how I’d hope to improve on that with my own mediocre skills, however.

Why not put a CGI version of Luke’s saber hilt onto Anakin’s saber?

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#1315260
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread - * <strong>TROS SPOILERS WITHIN</strong> *
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sade1212 said:

Cutting Luke’s lightsaber entirely wouldn’t add anything to the film, but I’ve been tempted to try to VFX it to be his ROTJ saber. I’m torn between the symbolic importance of the blue lightsaber being the same one that he previously rejected, and the fact Luke otherwise seems to be aiming to appear to Kylo as Kylo would remember him. For all of Kylo’s thirteen years of training at Luke’s Jedi temple, his master had a green lightsaber - we know this since Luke uses that same saber in ROTJ and in the TLJ flashback. And yet, when Luke appears to Kylo again and ignites his saber, it’s blue. Surely Kylo would immediately spot something was up, since every other time he’s ever seen Luke ignite his saber, it’s been green. I mean, the audience notices Luke’s saber colour change ESB to ROTJ, right? It’s a glowing laser sword, it’s not subtle. And if Kylo notices Luke’s saber is now blue, he’d probably glance at the hilt, realise it’s the saber that just got split in half, and suspect Luke is up to something. It risks giving the game away and having Kylo realise he’s being played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwWrmSP65lM

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#1315259
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Vladius said:

I wouldn’t say they were on the verge of defeat so much as they were already defeated. They took 99+% casualties and the rest of them could fit comfortably on the Millennium Falcon. Rise of Skywalker effectively ignores this and fills out their numbers without explanation, presumably with new recruits. But would a secondhand story about Luke really do all that much for the propaganda effort?

What makes him a symbol of hope? He came way too late, he didn’t even let them know that he was letting them escape, and they’re all going to think that he lost (which he kind of did because he died.) The reason Leia was seeking him out in TFA is so he could train new Jedi; that was the reason both sides were after him and the reason he would inspire hope. That never happened.

Immediately refuted by the opening crawl of The Last Jedi mentioning this: “Only General Leia Organa’s band of RESISTANCE fighters stand against the rising tyranny, certain that Jedi Master Luke Skywalker will return and restore a spark of hope to the fight.

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#1315257
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STAR WARS ST: SENATE EDITION – a Theoretical Plan for Salvaging the Sequel Trilogy * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Snoke’s character and dialogue will be largely rewritten by dubbing his audio in an alien language, accompanied by new subtitles. He will be reframed from the outset as an intermediary for Sidious, a straightforward dark-side disciple who did not train Ren, & whose origins and abilities are not important (it’s easy enough to imagine he played a role similar to the purple-robed advisers we see in ROTJ). His new dialogue will also be a tool for enforcing some of the other changes to the story.

Why not just cut up audio clips of Snoke speaking and re-arrange them to make new dialogue, like how the “Despacito 2” parody video remixed existing audio clips from Despacito? (Yeah, I know that it’d sound a little choppy and sometimes robotic, but at least it’d be close to what Snoke’s voice sounds like)

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#1315247
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Vladius said:

While I like the idea of Luke’s final moments actually accomplishing something, the idea that he’s an inspiration to everyone because of Crait never made sense to me. He’s inspiring like a dozen remaining members of the Resistance that are already die hard fighters and believers in the Jedi, they barely see him in action from a mile away, as far as they know he got killed by Kylo Ren, and he didn’t actually train Rey at all. Where is the inspiration coming from?

A symbol of hope arriving to confront the bad guys and to allow our heroes that were on the verge of defeat to escape.

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#1315235
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit)
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RogueLeader said:

What? It’s a practical effect, he is on set?

I mean as in more realistic-looking, as if he is an actual creature and not a puppet. There’s nothing inherently wrong with practical effects, but sometimes they do look a little man-made rather than realistic, in terms of movements and surface (e.g. Yoda in The Empire Strikes Back).

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#1315105
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The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
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Hal 9000 said:

I’m encoding V3 right now. I still need to adjust subtitles and chapters to match, but here’s the cutlist:

What’s new compared to V2:

  • Removed the silly mugshot of Hux after commenting on Poe’s X-wing approach
  • Removed Luke’s quip about Jakku being “pretty much nowhere” (the new movies are somewhat snarky in ways the OT never was IMHO, and so I’d rather keep Luke away from that - humor, but not gags)
  • Removed Rose responding to Finn’s “MTFBWY” with “you too.”
  • Reinstated Rose repeating “…they can track us through lightspeed.”
  • Tighten up Finn and Rose’s reaction to Maz’s “Oh yes, he can” for better timing
  • Reinstate a trimmed version of the balcony scene overlooking kids and horses being beaten on Canto Bight
  • Reinstate Rey asking Kylo Ren if he has a cowl to put on
  • Add Emperor laughing as Luke looks into Kylo’s mind during the third and final flashback
  • Remove Snoke’s line about “destroying the entire island” due to removal of Caretakers
  • I’m leaving out the line about Rey’s parents being buried on Jakku (not a new change, just pointing it out)
  • Removed Finn’s fight with Phasma by using what poppasketti did, which now includes a brief visual of Phasma’s corpse laying around to help sell the idea
  • Reinstate Finn’s line about “miniaturized Death Star tech,” as it unfortunately ties into IX.
  • Removed slow-motion shot as Luke dodges a swipe from Kylo during their duel

I have some suggestions:

  • Replace the rest of the end credits music with Darth Sidious’ speech from Fortnite, and then put the audio clip of him cackling after the credits are over and just before the Lucasfilm logo is shown.
  • Insert Han Solo’s “Ben!” from The Force Awakens into when Luke is reading Ben’s mind.
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#1315103
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (V2 RELEASED!)
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DZ-330 said:

Some changes for a potential V3:

From Hal 9000’s V3:

  • Add Emperor laughing as Luke looks into Kylo’s mind during the third and final flashback

  • Remove Snoke’s line about “destroying the entire island” due to removal of Caretakers

  • Reinstate Finn’s line about “miniaturized Death Star tech,” as it unfortunately ties into IX.

  • Removed slow-motion shot as Luke dodges a swipe from Kylo during their duel

Other Changes:

  • Add Rey seeing a flash of Palpatine to her mirror vision?

  • Remove mentions of Rey being “Nobody” and her parents death during Kylo’s speech.

  • Remove Leia saying that she knows her son is gone, since in IX she still believes he can be turned.

  • Find some way to include Palpatine at the end to give us something to be excited for IX about. The scene could be placed between the Falcon in Hyperspace and Broom Boi.

I have an idea: replace the rest of the end credits music with Darth Sidious’ speech from Fortnite, and then put the audio clip of him cackling after the credits are over and just before the Lucasfilm logo plays.

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#1315102
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What are your opinions on DVNR?
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I don’t mind DNR. Film grain is annoying when you watch an old film on an HD or 4K TV, and it obscures a lot of detail, such as the skin on some characters and some objects in the background. Plus, I don’t want to have to be reminded that I’m watching something that isn’t really happening, I want to watch something that feels as if you’re seeing a real event with your own eyes.

Sure, DNR has its flaws, like how it makes the image quality a little muddy and blurry, but it’s better than having to see these little specks while watching an old movie on an HD or 4K TV all the time.

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#1315064
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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ziggyonice said:

poppasketti said:

Another option, as many have said, is to plant the seed at the end of TLJ. One thought I had is that so much is made of the Resistance sending out a signal for help, and no one answering. It’s reinforced again in TROS. What if they did get an answer, from Palpatine? The radio crackles, and maybe we just hear his iconic laugh. Just a tease at the end to build up anticipation for TROS.

I know I’m late to this convo but that sounds incredible.

The one thing I wished we saw more of was a connection between TLJ and TROS. Bridging those two films together would have helped things immensely.

I wish there was some way to go as far as Rey’s parental reveal happening in TLJ, but I don’t know how it would work.

Why not have a mention in the opening crawl that Luke’s actions on Crait has ignited a spark of hope throughout the galaxy? Or have a mention that many of the ships were inspired by Luke’s actions to help Lando and the Resistance in the final battle against Darth Sidious’ forces?

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#1314714
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Most Disappointing Aspect of Sequel Trilogy? Most Satisfying? * <strong>TROS SPOILERS WITHIN</strong> *
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Hal 9000 said:

My biggest overall disappointment with the sequel trilogy is probably that it chose, perhaps not all at once, to pattern itself after the originals to the point that it retells the Empire vs Rebels story almost to a tee. It ends in essentially the same place as does ROTJ, feeling like it recapitulate the story rather than truly continuing it.

The most satisfying part for me has been Luke’s journey from traumatized recluse to revivified Jedi Master ready to nonviolently kick ass. It was a gift horse I looked in the mouth, but has been worth being patient for myself to appreciate. This is the diamond in the rough, woven into the soil of the retread that TFA set in motion.

And that’s why bringing back Darth Sidious destroys Anakin’s sacrifice and redemption in Return of the Jedi.

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#1314498
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread - * <strong>TROS SPOILERS WITHIN</strong> *
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IlFanEditore said:

Does anyone think it would be possible to add his Force ghost behind Rey while she’s fighting Palpatine?
Not necessarily his actual ghost at the end of ROTJ, but any of his PT shots masked and edited to look like a ghost.

Maybe a gif of photorealistic fanart of Force ghost Anakin? If not, maybe use his EA Battlefront II model and edit it so it wouldn’t look out of place?

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#1314348
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STAR WARS: Episode 7 &amp; 8 [Trilogy enhancement]
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Jimmy Chips said:

You could always use some lines from Darth Nihlus. He speaks ancient sith the entire game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diO3HRGWbZI

Or, he could put audio from, say, the Japanese and Korean versions of The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, in reverse and then put them together to make it sound like he’s speaking an alien language.

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#1314020
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OT Edits to Fit the PT and/or the Larger Saga (A Resource Thread, Hopefully)
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orchidal said:

This editor uses Markdown syntax, which makes it easy to add formatting like italics, bold, and lists:

Preview this post to see the results.

For more details, see this Markdown demo.

Um… why are you posting this?

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#1314017
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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poppasketti said:

As someone who avoided all spoilers after the teaser trailer (meaning all I knew was that Palpatine was somehow returning), I was shocked how the Palpatine reveal was so abruptly dumped into the title crawl. It felt like the trailers were being treated as part of the actual story to save time. But if you watch just the movies, it comes out of nowhere!

I love DominicCobb’s alternate title crawl. It saves the reveal for the actual film, when Kylo-Ren finds him.

Another option, as many have said, is to plant the seed at the end of TLJ. One thought I had is that so much is made of the Resistance sending out a signal for help, and no one answering. It’s reinforced again in TROS. What if they did get an answer, from Palpatine? The radio crackles, and maybe we just hear his iconic laugh. Just a tease at the end to build up anticipation for TROS.

I’m not sure how you’d do it visually. There are a few shots on Crait of the radio and Leia looking disheartened. There’s the shot just before the door is blasted where Leia is looking around the base and the radio is saying “the cannon is warming up now”. The look on her face would also work for the shock of a surprise transmission from Palpatine. You’d have to move the shot to after the climax, though, as you can’t interrupt TLJ story with Palpatine. I don’t know how well that would cut together.

Kylo-Ren is also in the radio room later where he finds the dice. Maybe that’s the time to do it. You hear some crackling and cut to closeup of the radio, where Palpatine’s laugh starts coming through. Then we cut to a closeup of Kylo-Ren with either a look of surprise, confusion, or a simple head turn, reinforced with Palpatine score. This would actually match up well with DominicCobb’s new title crawl, as it provides motivation for Kylo-Ren to search “for the source of his former master’s dark power”.

I have an even better idea: replace the rest of the end credits music with Darth Sidious’ speech from Fortnite, and before we fade into the Lucasfilm logo, we’d hear his laughter from the teaser for The Rise of Skywalker.

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#1313775
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Peter Pan said:

Looking at how Rose character was handled in TROS to please those people that hated on her, including these that sent Kelly Marie Tran death threats I was thinking about offending those f*ckers a stitch more:
Why not cut the Fin Rose romance from 8 and retcon Paige from being Rose sister to being her wife and turn their amulet into some sort of wedding ring.

jaw drops Why make Rose lesbian?

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#1313484
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Leia being Force-sensitive completely undermines the entirety of <em>The Force Awakens</em>.
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Yes, I know that Leia has always been Force-sensitive since The Empire Strikes Back (remember when she sensed that Luke was in danger of falling off of the bottom of Cloud City and she had to rescue him?), but today I’m going to explain why the fact that she is Force-sensitive completely undermines the entire quest to find Luke in The Force Awakens.

In The Last Jedi, Leia is seen seemingly flying in space towards the Resistance flagship, with zero build-up to her being this suddenly powerful Force-user at all. In The Rise of Skywalker,

it is revealed that Leia trained under Luke and built her own lightsaber, and she trained Rey as a Jedi after the events of The Last Jedi.

We all know that when you’re Force-sensitive, you automatically have powers. In fact, we see a kid use the Force to pull a broom at the end of The Last Jedi! Since Leia is Force-sensitive, the Resistance wasted their time and resources looking for Luke, even before he refused to go with Rey. The deaths of Lor San Tekka and Han Solo were pointless. So why did they need Luke Skywalker if Leia was always Force-sensitive?

TL;DR Leia being Force-sensitive, especially in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, undermines everything that happened in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi because you automatically have powers when you’re Force-sensitive, and the Resistance never thought about needing Leia as the Force-user they’ve been wanting instead of Luke Skywalker.