FreezingTNT2

jarbear said:

Poppa, great job with the latest videos! Changing the “targeting” makes the logical conclusion in the person’s mind when watching the crash scene. It’s little things like that that perfects thing. Marvelous!

Also, the same thing with the particles. You know how my eyes work and all, I see the difference in those two. Very nice. Even before when you added those effects it helped tie things in nicely.

It just keeps getting better and better.

Also, what about adding an Obi Wan line? I still don’t get the rationale for including this.

It isn’t necessary at all or adds anything helpful, it would be more distracting than anything, personally.

Recall too, Kylo/Ben already established in the movie previously between the first “force call/connection” with Rey that such a feat (Force Projection or whatever), the effort would kill a person (Jedi/Sith/Whatever.) So there literally is no need for someone/something to tell Luke after he does it to “let go” or “It’s ok, you can die now” or something.

I’m always up for hearing ideas and whatnot … but I respectfully couldn’t get behind it.

Then why did it not kill either Kylo or Rey?

idir_hh said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

idir_hh said:

You can never get rid of your darkside, you can reject it, fight it, but never get rid of it. Its a constant battle and that’s the point. Taking the path of the light is vowing to fight this battle.

To be fair Yoda conquered his dark side in The Clone Wars and yet he never struggled with it ever again

Pressuring Luke to kill his father isn’t very lightside ; )

Well… at least Yoda wasn’t intending to kill Vader by himself.

idir_hh said:

You can never get rid of your darkside, you can reject it, fight it, but never get rid of it. Its a constant battle and that’s the point. Taking the path of the light is vowing to fight this battle.

To be fair Yoda conquered his dark side in The Clone Wars and yet he never struggled with it ever again

idir_hh said:

I think it would put Rey on an even footing with kylo on an emotion level, in the hanger scene you can have Kylo tell Rey “we are heirs of the darkside and we will take it’s throne” really lean in on the similarities between them -the “dyad”. this would make the ending far more impactfull (especially if we make ben live) as we have them both reject their innate darkness and begin the future with the light-It rhymes.

And then Rey still struggles with the dark side as if the fact that she rejected her inner darkness meant nothing at all, just like Luke in The Last Jedi where he has a dark side temptation to murder the sleeping Ben Solo as if rejecting his inner darkness after realizing that he is following in Vader’s footsteps meant nothing at all.

Don’t know if you’re responding to me or NeverarGreat.

Since you added Palpatine’s laugh into the flashback sequence, do you plan on adding Ian McDiarmid to the cast section in the end credits after the movie ends?

NeverarGreat said:

It also feels weird that he’s interacting with stuff and killing fish.

Friendly reminder that Force ghosts can now interact with the physical world. cough Yoda changing the weather and causing lightning to hit the tree cough Luke lifting the X-Wing so Rey could get to Exegol cough

TIL* Rian Johnson did not really care about the Star Wars canon

*It means “today I learned”.

NeverarGreat said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

RogueLeader said:

krausfadr said:

If I’m able to seamlessly add some Kylo dialogue then I would like to also have Kylo admit he’s the one who killed Rey’s parents.

I’m surprised you want to make this change. I felt it was one of the worst plot points from Colin’s draft.

C’mon, you just want to keep the idea of Rey’s parents selling her for the sole purpose of getting drinking money!

As I’ve said before, from a purely logistical stance it’s laughable that in a twenty mile radius of Jakku desert we have the Millennium Falcon, the map to Luke, and the granddaughter of Palpatine/powerful Force sensitive whose parents were personally killed by Kylo Ren, with all of these things finding their way to the planet entirely coincidentally.

Agreed. The Force Awakens does not have a sense of scale.

Can I have a link?

RogueLeader said:

krausfadr said:

If I’m able to seamlessly add some Kylo dialogue then I would like to also have Kylo admit he’s the one who killed Rey’s parents.

I’m surprised you want to make this change. I felt it was one of the worst plot points from Colin’s draft.

C’mon, you just want to keep the idea of Rey’s parents selling her for the sole purpose of getting drinking money!

So Palpatine isn’t Rey’s real grandfather?

Ok

Speaking of which, Palpatine should not order Kylo to kill Rey in this movie, because in reality he actually wants Rey to be brought to him.

ChainsawAsh said:

I’m down with that idea, but that makes it even more necessary to come up with some way to communicate to the audience at the end that Palps is 100% for realsies dead this time, you guys - otherwise it’s just, “Well, we saw all his clone bodies earlier, clearly he’s just gonna get cloned again.”

I think the shockwave created when Palpatine is killed might destroy the liquid tanks containing the cloned bodies?

RogueLeader said:

I recall that, so there wasn’t another hologram scene between Kylo and Palpatine? I feel like someone mentioned that, but I actually don’t remember it.

I do not recall any hologram scenes between Kylo and Palpatine at all.

RogueLeader said:

Unfortunately I don’t even think it really gave Kylo that much more agency. Kylo reprimands an officer who is skeptical of Palpatine and the Final Order, and there is a scene where Kylo communicates with Palpatine over hologram like he is his lackey, just like Vader was.

That was General Pryde who was talking to Palpatine, not Kylo.

idir_hh said:

Just skimmed through the TROS visual dictionary and lo and behold it explicitly says that the Sith loyalists took Palpatines body to Exogol and through “Science and occult” they brought him back to life.
Lucasfilm can’t decide which is it, clone or alive?
What happened to “an interconnected and consistent Canon”.
Such a shame, they’ve just thrown in the towel I guess.

Speaking of Palpatine’s body, how the hell did it survive the destruction of the second Death Star?

@Poppasketti I know you will keep V2 as a “purist version” without the changes building towards Palpatine in The Rise of Skywalker, but do you plan on making a version of the edit that only features the non-Palpatine-related changes from V3 (e.g. the Wilhelm scream addition, the Praetorian guard battle error fix, etc.) and the pre-V3 changes?

OutboundFlight said:

Rey should struggle with being no one

Keep in mind that Rey never actually wanted to know who her parents were: she was just waiting for her family to return, before accepting that they will never return, as Maz Kanata points out in The Force Awakens. This is one of the reasons why Rey starting to cry when Kylo made her admit that her parents were nobodies right before he reveals that her parents did not care about her and actually sold her did not make any sense.

In Episode VIII, Rey’s arc should be feeling rejected by her new surrogate family (Luke) and joining Kylo after he lies that everybody she has known in her life has rejected her. In Episode IX, she would find out the truth, redeem herself and reject Kylo, accepting her surrogate family as her “real family” (you know what I mean 😉).

pleasehello said:

Rey’s entire story in TLJ centered around her parentage and her eventual acceptance that they were nobodies and bums.

Keep in mind that if you watch the scene, Kylo makes her admit that she knew that they were nobodies, before he tells her that her parents were filthy junk traders that sold her and died off.

RogueLeader said:

I definitely think the film implies that Palpatine did die

It’s literally confirmed within the film itself. Palpatine tells Kylo that “he has died before”.

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ChainsawAsh said:

And all of that is relevant to Rekindled how exactly?

Dude, I was responding to StarkillerAG’s comment.

DominicCobb said:

Again, that’s the point.

The point of what? The entire Disney trilogy? Also, why shouldn’t Rey be a Skywalker (whether she is Luke’s or Leia’s kid) if this saga is centered around the Skywalker family?