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#362665
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RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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alex s said:

Still looking for pics from ST TMP?

 

I gots tons.

 

 

NICE!

 

If I remember correctly, some of these are the same shots used for the gum cards. 

 

 

 

 

"By the time we got to Woodstock..."

 

 

An attack of intestinal cramps?  The Enterprise's new food replicators must still need a bit of adjusting.

 

 

No Kirk in shuttle

 

The refit must not yet be complete. (Port side stern of the ship is missing)


 

 

Enterprise encounters a huge SPACE BRAIN! I always wondered if shots like these are of the rejected original special effects, or had they just been quickly made for promo use.

 

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#360973
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Info & Ideas Wanted: for a Superman III edit...
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There is a scene when Superman is in his evil phase and sitting at a Bar.  He is looking at himself in a mirror, and uses his heat vission to melt the mirror. Yet in Superman II,  Superman used a truck's side view mirror to reflect Zod's heat vision, causing lots of damage. 

When Superman is flying to the Grand Canyon, there is a very dirty lense mark.

 

Lot's of visable wires in the factory fire scene.

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#360780
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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Monroville said:
Ripplin said:
Gaffer Tape said:

I suppose the problem with Klingons would be over which style of Klingons to put in a future movie:  the original smooth-headed ones or the more familiar ridge-heads?  Most likely the latter, but you know some fans would bitch about that.

Meh, they already explained it too much on "Enterprise." My favorite explanation was from DS9, where Worf just said it's not something they discuss with outsiders. Leaves a lot to the imagination, just like Boba Fett should've been.

 

Actually, FASA games back in the 1980's came up with a really good explanation which I'm surprised Berman and company didn't lift from it: the reason the Klingons look more human in the 1965 series  is that they are human-klingon hybrids created to better interact and infiltrate the Federation.  In the FASA game, the Klingons had Human and Romulan "fusions", and the bone-headed Klingons were the "Imperial" pure-bloods.  It would have made a great lead-in for the whole "civil war" thing in the NG series...

 

 

 

I still have all my old FASA books.  That was a great game, and they did an excellent job creating a very detailed and fleshed out extended universe based on information provided in the original series, animated show, and first few films. Paramount got their knickers in a twist when Next Generation came along, and the background information from the game started to contradict information in new ST:TNG episodes.  I clearly remember in the early days of Next Generation, fans at conventions had been quite vocal and critical of Paramount for changing popular lore established in the game's supplements (such as the Klingon's background).  And if I remember, this was a major reason FASA lost the license to make the game. That game was quite popular in the mid 1980's, and quite a few if us were upset to see it's production stop.

 

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#359926
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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If they planed this film to be the start of entire new series of stories that revolve around these characters, Kirk should not have received command of the Enterprise until the 3rd film in the series.  Making him a full Captain in command of the flagship at this point is rushing things too much. That's like making Luke a full blown Jedi Master at the end of "A New Hope".  Captain Pike was a great character, and the actor had a strong respect factor. I'll miss him in the next film.

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#359612
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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bigbaddaddyvader said:

and the fact that due to the score I half expected Batman to pop up on the bridge of the Enterprise I thought this was a very good outing for Trek.Anyone who thinks that this wasn't a better trek flick than Nemesis or that absolutely god-awful snooze-fest Insurrection is mad.

Karl Urban was great and despite what others have said I rather liked Pine as Kirk and his development through the film.Quinto was very good although i still think he had the easiest job of the three.Simon Pegg was very good too and although many seem to disagree i thought Bana was badass as Nero.

I thought it was plain to see that Orci and Kurtzman ARE Trek fans.I mean,really,is the casual cinema-goer or someone new to the franchise going to get the Kobayashi Maru?

Ya bunch of Kirk-Lovin Spocksuckers..........

Been waiting to get that line in for a while now

;)

 

"The Undiscovered Country" score was much more Batman like. "Generations" was much more generic and television sounding then this new film's score. "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" are equally as forgettable as this new soundtrack. "The Voyage Home" was the worst of all, and the only Star Trek soundtrack album I have never owned.

Having Pine chomping on an apple during the Kobayashi Maru test (in the exact same way Shatner had in "Wrath of Khan" when McCoy, Savik, and Kirk are talking about the test) was great! Only a hard core fan would get that.

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#359178
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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As a true Trek fan, I must nickpick.

The choice of using the name Delta Vega as the ice planet was a very strange one.  Why would the writers do this when they should know very well that it's this type of thing that would anger the hard-core Trek fans who live for cannon detail? It is representative of the disconnect these filmmakers have from the Star Trek purest.

In an interview with TrekMovie.com, Orci said, "We moved the planet to suit our purposes. The familiarity of the name seemed more important as an Easter egg, than a new name with no importance."

 

I think this decision confused fans more then anything.  People are asking questions like...

"How did Kirk just happen to be dumped on the remote world Delta Vega (from the episode "Where No man Has Gone Before) located at the edge of the galaxy?" 

"And how is it that Spock Prime just happened to be stranded on that very same planet as well"?

"How in the heck can Spock see Vulcan with his naked eye from such a far off distant planet (and in the light of day too)?"

If the writers would have just identified the planet by a generic unused Trek sounding name, and also just added a small bit of dialog (along the lines of "Captain Spock, we are passing the Vulcan systems habitable minor planetoid  Bumblefuck, should we deposit Kirk there?", Spock answers "Affirmative!"). That little bit of extra exposition would have worked so much better for me. It would have made a lot more sense to fully and clearly explain to folks that Spock was placed on the closest habitable observation point to witness Vulcan's demise. It should also have been made a bit more clear that this place was going the first planet type object that the Enterprise would pass on the return to Earth, and that is why it was the most logical place to dump Kirk. Identifying this ice world as nothing more then a very small planetoid would have helped suspend the disbelief on the "how the hell did Kirk find Spock Prive on something the size of a huge planet" issue. 

 

Now to defend the filmmakers.

On the issue of the song, First Contact used Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet Ride" in one of it's most important scenes. Why was that fine with so many fans? Why is it ok for Zefram Cochran to be a fan of Classic Rock, but not for young Kirk? My only problem with that choice of song (and it's not a major one), was that it did not match the era for that car model.

 

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#358874
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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Saw it last night, and liked it very much. Not an instant classic film, but very enjoyable.  Glad I went to see it. Sure it has it's problems, but nothing that made me groan too much.  I'm looking forward to the next installment.  I enjoyed it in the same way I did "Galaxy Quest". What more can I say?

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#358172
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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Humor in Star Trek is a fine balance. The heavy humor drivin Trek films ( IV & V) have not been on the top of my list, and I think the silly jokes in VI hurt the over all flow of the film.  With the original series, you had fun joke driven episodes such as "Trouble with Tribbles", that fit into the cannon along side very serious dramatic episodes like "Balance of Terror". This worked only when you keept the over the top corny jokes out of the dramatic episodes, and at the same time did not make the hokey episodes to heavy handed in the drama department.  "Wrath of Khan" kept it's humor on a very low and realistic level. It's the kind of humor most people encounter or use everyday with friends or co-workers.  It's not the "pie in the face" type.

This new film looks to be mixing styles. They seem to want to draw fans of the heavy hitting "Wrath of Khan" type films, but at the same time they are injecting "Row, Row, Row Your Boat", type lame jokes. Not a good mix.  If they want to make a Star Trek parody, they should just do that, and call it that. They should not try and trick people who want a hard hitting adventure into thinking that's what they are going to get.  In 1967, there was a James Bond movie called "Casino Royal". It was a parody, and billed as such. People who took it for what it was, a light hatred spoof, came away satisfied. People wanting a classic Bond adventure, got upset and some even panned the film for using the 007 logo and Bond name as a trick to lure them in (take a look at the Amazon reviews for the DVD).  The 1967 "Casino Royal" did have it's positive reviews, and history shows that the official series of Bond film's producers started to take note, and incorporate more and more corny jokes well into the 1970's and 80's. I am not a fan of that kind of Bond film, and got more and more disappointed viewing the series in order after O.H.M.S.S.

 

 

 

 

 

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#356737
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RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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Wookie Ookie said:

Hmmmm ... well I was just able to watch the original iteration of FanFiltration's ST-TMP:SLV (how's that for a lotta letters) last night for the first time, and I see all the stuff I noticed (and more) has been reported. So I guess I'll just say that as it was, it was really cool, the picture and sound looked and sounded great on the 42" TV in my bedroom, I really enjoyed the audio interviews and the publicity photos. So, as a version 1.0, it was excellent and i can't wait for ST-TMP:SLV 2.0!

Also, this advance poster for the movie from late '78/early '79 would make a great sleeve if anyone can find it at an appropriate resolution.

STTMP advance poster

 

 

Thanks for the review.  The new version should be uploaded soon.  I'm still waiting on my buddy to reroute the menus and chapters.

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#355265
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RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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ChainsawAsh said:

FF, since this is your project after all, do you have any suggestions or requests in regards to the cover?  A different text block on the back maybe?  (I made mine up mostly from scratch, and I'm not sure if I'm happy with it)

And thank you for that scan, tmpfan - it'll work beautifully.

 

The cover look great so far.  Feel free to do whatever you feel is best.  I would not even mind alternate versions of covers.