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#171737
Topic
Phineasbg/ HIGHLANDER II: Extended Versions (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171737/action/topic#171737
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Originally posted by: Mitch
Highlander Returns, The International Version (AKA, Highlander 2 The Quickining/ U.S Title)

A CHANCE IT NEVER HAD......

[EDIT]

What I need is someone or people with an interest to help me restore this to the best possible.

Using to versions.

Highlander 2 German internatinal cut
Highlander 2 JAPAN CUT - The American TV version

Now the Japan cut is fullscreen ratio 1:33.1 and colors are washed out and has onscreen no removable japanese subtitles, qulity is poor and sountrack is not much better. However, this soundtrack is the only copy of the version avaible in english. It has a horrible hissing noise but it will have to work or maybe we could work on it.

[EDIT]

Mitch.....



Mitch and others that may be intregued by this project,

I may have some very good news on the restoration of this film's "International Cut".

Looks like I have found a LASERDISC of the "Japan cut" with the "no removable japanese subtitles" and the LD cover is in japanese too. Got it for $5. It's being shipped to me from Australia. If we are lucky, this will have a beter quality english soundtrack on it that can be overdubed onto the German version's letterbox video. Let's just hope this Laserdisc is the cut of the film we want for this project. Man, I would hate to think I spent a whole $5 on the American cut.

More to come...

FF

Post
#170437
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Info Wanted: Excalibur - differing scenes & TV and R-rated versions...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170437/action/topic#170437
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This info is from the IMDB, I hope it helps:

Alternate Versions for Excalibur (1981)
The movie was originally put into theatrical release simultaneously in both its PG and R-rated formats in the USA. Most home video versions are the R-rated one, but TV and movie channels show the PG version. The R-rated version features a few more minutes of graphic sex and violence.

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#170325
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170325/action/topic#170325
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Good luck with that edit. After I do many of the other releases...including several "making of" specials on Jaws, I might get around to doing a different version of it.

again...if you want to discuss a re-edit, that's fine. But there is no extra material to the scene you are suggesting so why bother discussing it. You're the only one who "remembers" it.


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#170321
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170321/action/topic#170321
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Originally posted by: Mackey256
Much like the rest of this forum as of late…I can see this thread spiraling down to the level of name calling rather quickly.

Don’t get me wrong I am all for debates as to whether or not a scene was in a movie or wasn’t. I myself have been privy to more than my fair share on this board in the past. I, however, don't see any good information on either side of this argument.

If at all possible can we as a forum move past the childish reply of “Prove it?”



Well said!

And on that wise sugestion, I would like to provide a link to some lost scenes that can be placed into a fan edit of JAWS.

JAWS: Lost Scenes

I am thinking of doing a reconstruction of:

"Shark Goes After Michael Brody"(Estuary)

After the shark attacks the guy in the Estuary, it goes after Michael Brody, with the Estuary guy still in its jaws. The Estuary guy, barely alive, pushes Michael out of the way, saving Michael's life.

This out-take clip is part of the making of special on the DVD, and has no original sound that can be used in a fan edit. If I use the extended soundtrack CD, I may be able to make this footage blend with the film.

As for some of the other out-takes, the acting is so bad in some ("Cassidy Identifies Chrissie's Remains") that it needs to be left out of every edit. *grin*

FF
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#170309
Topic
Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170309/action/topic#170309
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"See, I do know how to search."

With all due respect, this was in one of your links: "i spoke w/ someone at my local video store about this and he told me that he had heard (rec.movies.urban.legends)..."

It's little more than one person hearing something from another person. If you've ever played the game "Grapevine" in school, you would know how quickly and easily a simple fact or assumption can be distorted.

With all due respect back, my point of posting the links (as stated clearly in my last post) was not to prove or disprove the existence of such a print, but only to justify the discussions of such a version. I think I've done that. The quoted comment you provided was only one comment from one of five provided links. There are quite a few first hand accounts of people claiming to have seen the same version I had. And yes, I am sure there are just as many posts around of people who have not seen that print, and are convinced that it does not exist.

Unless this footage can ever be found and seen, it's all academic.


As I was singing before, "You like potato and I like potahto"

FF



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#170179
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170179/action/topic#170179
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Sure thing, newbie.


You have displayed nothing but negativity on this thread. It's sad that you feel so threatened as to resort to name-calling. As the "newbie", let me be the first of us to extend a basic example of forum etiquette. Let me ask that we please do the rest of the forum readers a favor, and move your non-constructive criticism to personal mail. It's only right that we elevate the level of this thread back up to exploring the movie Jaws. It would be nice to come back to this thread and find some new information on Jaws, deleted scenes, and/or a fan edit of the film.

No, I don't have an old VHS of that version to hold up as proof, but I can provide a legitimate reason for this discussion.
Here is a link to some discussion on another forum about the edit in JAWS I was talking about in a post above.


Jaws autopsy edit

and

"Jaws" Problem

Oh, and look! "Christopher Smith NT" remembers seeing the same version I did:

8. Christopher Smith NT
Sep 17 1995, 11:00 pm show options
Newsgroups: alt.video.laserdisc

I saw this film in the theatre (JAWS) when it first came out. As I recall the
film was rated -R. I can remember only one scene that I've not seen since...

When Richard Drey. is examining the first body, the girl who was eaten, he says
"This is what happens..." This is what is in the PG version. This statement
makes no sense...its open ended.

I recall in the theatre version, that the doctor brings in the tin with the
remains of the girls body. The camera view is then from the ceiling where
Richard removes the covering cloth and you see parts of the breast, leg and
arm. Richard then says "This is what happens in a shark attack" And he picks
up the arm and you saw a bit more.

I have yet to see this since.

christopher smith

Link to original message above.

And here is yet another thread with people who remeber seeing the version of Jaws I did.

Universal Studios Home Video Forum

And


"The missing 7 seconds of JAWS"

See, I do know how to search.

FF

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#170167
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170167/action/topic#170167
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I'm actually on that board.

And please, feel free to present proof that such a print exists. Until you do, it doesn't.



LOL, let's sing....


You say either and I say either, You say neither and I say neither
Either, either Neither, neither, Let's call the whole thing off.

You like potato and I like potahto, You like tomato and I like tomahto
Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto, Let's call the whole thing off

But oh, if we call the whole thing off Then we must part
And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart

So if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas, I'll wear pyjamas and give up
pyajahmas
For we know we need each other so we , Better call the whole off off
Let's call the whole thing off.


That was fun!




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#170099
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170099/action/topic#170099
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Unfortunately, the only print of this is hiding out with the one print of Star Wars with the Biggs scene back in that everyone has claimed to see.

Never happened.


Is that an opinion or a fact?

I'm asking if you are calling myself, and others that post over at www.jawsmovie.com that claim to have seen that version of Jaws a liar? Or, are you just trying to rattle me for calling you pedantic (which you were)?

Just want to make sure we keep the known facts separate from anything personal for everyone else here. If you have documented proof from anyone on the Jaws production team that such a version never existed or was never shown, please bring it forward. Apon it's presentation, I will admit myself for psychiatric care for hallucinations.

FF
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#170064
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170064/action/topic#170064
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What I would like to see put back in the film (and it's not on the DVD) is the missing autopsy footage that was cut after some prints of the film had been released.

My family went to see Jaws back in 1975 at a "drive in", and my sister and I remember that scene was complete. Universal wanted a softer film for the teen crowd, and wanted the gore of that autopsy cut back. If you look at the scene you can see the obvious edit. It's just after Hooper says, "This is what happens"....


FF
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#169777
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Info: JAWS...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169777/action/topic#169777
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I can’t believe this film has not come up here yet.
With the amount of re-issues ‘Jaws’ has had, there must be someone out there doing something with this great film.
I know there is cut footage beyond what is on the DVDs.

I know that the film is almost perfect the way it was released, but seeing it with the cut footage back in might be fun.

FF

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#169585
Topic
Idea & Info: star trek the motion picture - preservation
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169585/action/topic#169585
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Back to Star Trek: The Motion Picture,

There is a way to preserve the 1979 version and the 1983 T.V. version using the Directors Cut DVD, 1979 widescreen Laserdisc, and the 1983 pan & scan laserdisc version.

Using a NLE software, import the 1979 footage and soundtrack from the 79-widescreen laser. Then take the video only from the Directors Cut DVD and overlay it on top of the 79-laserdisc footage where possible. Parts of the Klingon battle are missing from the DVD, so you will need to mix footage. Use filters to balance the look where you mix laserdisc and DVD footage. For the Vulcan and San Francisco tram station shots, just use the cut footage in the DVD extras section. For the lounge scene, I just use the laserdisc for the shots we see the window. If you just use the laserdisc soundtrack and as much footage as you can from the DVD without the added effects, you should have a kewl looking Star Trek The Motion Picture Preservation.

Now for another version (The Longer Extended Cut),

Using a NLE software (such as Abobe Premiere), import the 1983 pan & scan laserdisc version with Soundtrack. Then take the video only from the Directors Cut DVD and overlay it on top of the 1983 pan & scan laserdisc footage. Use all the cut shots from the DVD's extras, and use shots from the 79-widescreen laserdisc where you need to. If you do this, you should have the extended version of the film in WIDESCREEN format. That is something that has never been available.

Now I am returning to my work on a re-edit of the film (much like my DUNE re-edit), so I'll leave the preservation to other fans.


FanFiltration
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#169549
Topic
Idea: The Spy Who Loved Me 'retro-izing' - fan edit?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169549/action/topic#169549
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
If you listen here, you will hear the same 'overtone' used in two different movies:

From Russia With Love
James Steals the Lektor

Undewater battle in Thunderball
Thunderball

Thunderball Street Chase
Thunderball Street Chase


Yep, that is the "007" theme, and like "The James Bond Theme", it works very well in number of films with alternate arrangements.
That "007" theme was also used in You Only Live Twice, Diamonds Are Forever, Moonraker, and also a very striped down & simple arrangement was used in Octopussy.

Another theme used in more then one film is the Space March. That was in You Only Live Twice, Diamonds, & Moonraker.

The underwater theme from Thunderball was re-arranged for use in A View to A Kill.


One thing that could be tried is taking Bond Music that was recorded for albums by 3rd party music people, but not for the films themselves. There must be a hundred of that type of album out there. That tactic may make the arrangements a bit more distinct & unlike those in other Bond films. You can also dig around for old John Barry film soundtracks. Try out cues from films Barry did that are not out on VHS or DVD at all, or Films that are not well known. The music for the 1976 King Kong sounds allot like Moonraker (The bond film released right after The Spy who Loved Me)

I can't remember, but was it not the soundtrack to "King Kong" that kept John Barry from working on Spy Who Loved Me?


Again, I would love to see someone do this.

FanFiltration

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#169485
Topic
Idea: The Spy Who Loved Me 'retro-izing' - fan edit?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169485/action/topic#169485
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I'm not saying that it should not be done, but would not having the soundtracks from other Bond films just make you "get taken out of it" even more? There is a fan film out there that takes Never Say Never Again and puts music from the Eon Bond films over it. It's a great job. The only thig is that those themes are so connected with the films they come from, that I get a bit distracted.

Only way to find out if this will work, is for someone to do it!

I'll view a finished edit, if someone does it.

FanFiltration
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#169325
Topic
Analog to Digital Converter "RED" Problem
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169325/action/topic#169325
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At this time, I'm using a Sony Handycam (via Firewire) to convert my Laserdiscs to DV for making my DVD's.

The big problem I've been having is with the color red. Whenever red is shown in the video, I can see lines or block looking patterns in the red part of the images. I have a feeling that it is the Sony Handycam doing this. Do any of you know about this type of thing? If I was going to replace my Handycam with another converter, what should I get?

Thanks