FanFiltration

Man I want to re-do these, and someday I just may.

doubleofive said:

I threw together a mock-up using the TOSR Enterprise from "Tomorrow is Yesterday".  It could use work, and I'll try to add damage later.

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We need to make the earth much darker and deeper blue to match how it looks in the Motion Picture travel pod scene and when the Enterprise leaves orbit.  I would also like to just have the orbital office complex and an empty drydock in the distance and this old Enterprise heading for it.  My friend (who did the blue eye work in my edit of Dune) wants to try and paint out the Enterprise from the drydock, shrink it down in scale to show distance (also helps hiding any small errors in the removal of the enterprise from the shot) and place it into the CGI scene you have shown here. The huge complex just seems too much, and fits more later in the series. But we understand the logic in wanting to use it.

Travel Pod scene:

Don't want to break any rules about posting links to clips of fan edits stuff, so PM me for info.

I know, the video quality sucks, but it's just a work-test using a crap encoder and very low bit-rate for small upload size. It's just for you guys to see what I am up to. It took over 6 hours just for this scene. Constructive feedback is welcome. The earth will be moved to the left side of the pod in that one shot where you can see that Earth is on the wrong side. that is not a hard thing to fix. Also there will be a caption at the start of the scene to identify the Star Fleet orbital drydock complex and stardate.

Edit: I want to say how much I hate youtube, and how it makes the video look like crap, and you can see glitches where you can't on my master copy.  .

FF

Ziz said:

SilverWook said:

I really like the idea of seeing the ship return home at the end of the 5 year mission.

Could Kirk's final log entry V.O. from TUC be reworked for this?

As much as I would like to see that as well, you would then expect to see everyone in TOS form getting off the ship and some kind of scene implying that they're going their separate ways for a bit while the ship gets refit.  That will be very difficult if not impossible to create from TOS footage.

I need to find my copy of "Star Trek: The Lost Years" audio book.  There is audio by one or two of the stars talking about the return of the enterprise on that. My memory is not what it used to be, so I need to check it to see if it could be useful in this scene. Maybe used as a log entry over the CGI shot???

doubleofive said:

FanFiltration said:

doubleofive said:

I have a draft of a change list page ready if you want to use my list-making abilities.

 

Thanks, I would!

http://doubleofive.wordpress.com/fanfiltrations-star-trek-tmp-edit/

NICE!

doubleofive said:

I'm not so sure on the lack of reactions by the crew to not only have V'ger, but Klingons that deep into Federation space(?).  I'm sure if anyone can find the footage, its you since you have access to every piece of footage released for this movie. ;-)

Thanks for the confidence. There are quite a lot of bridge crew reaction shots from footage that I am removing from other parts of the film (Such as  the wormhole scene, and the V'ger flyover). The plan is to try and incorporate these into the new 2nd Klingon battle. Klingon bridge monitors are being removed from Star Trek V and VI (from the combat scenes) and overlaid onto ones in ST:TMP. I still have to look at ST:III to see if there is anything I can use.  But I don't remember there being any combat-computer display shots on The Bird of Prey.

Editing the footage together and the dialog is the easy part, it's the music that is the most difficult for me. It is very important to not have it be jarring, and also still do the job of enhancing the story telling experience the way a good score is supposed to. I have my work cut out for me.  I spent a good 4 hours last night editing down the travel pod scene.  All the shots work, but the music is too drawn out as the pod backs up to dock with the Enterprise. The pacing just falls apart.  I will need to re-score this bit by stealing the music from someplace else. Now I am racking my memory of Star trek music cues for the appropriate music.

doubleofive said:

I have a draft of a change list page ready if you want to use my list-making abilities.

Thanks, I would!

As far as including footage from the remastered T.V. series, I would rather hold off until the end phase of the project. To start off, it would be best to work within the STMP footage, and just grab from other sources when absolutely necessary.  When taking sound or visual elements from outside sources, I would like to keep those sources within the Star Trek franchise.

How does this sound?  At the start of the film, there is an attack on V'ger by only one Klingon D-7, and then later 3 more come into the story to seek revenge for their lost ship. Then we get two Klingon scenes... I think the Klingons would send in more firepower for revenge.

Thanks for the input!

Excellent case made about the prologue. Very good point about it not being in the Trek idiom. It's out. 

Last night, I dug out my old copies of the Marvel comic adaption and the Photostory tie-in book. They seem to be good models on how to break down the story to it's most important plot points.   They trim a lot of the same elements I was thinking of doing myself. This is one of the movies that I wished they had done an audio-book of with one of the stars. It may have come in useful.

The plan is that the Decker and Kirk scenes are to be left mostly completely alone. I'm just not understanding what you are saying about Decker accepting Kirk's command.  Kirk will have the talk with Decker in the engine room, but the scene will end just after Decker storms out. Kirk looks over at Scotty, then cut just before the console explodes.   Also, in the start of the engine room scene Scotty and Decker talk about why the transporter was not working, Scotty tells another crew person to replace the sensor, and all is right with the Transporter as far as we are concerned. 

Scotty informs Kirk about the Transporter not working when they enter the travel pod, so no need for the malfunction. It just always seemed forced. That technology was years old by the time of this adventure, and it's a stretch that it's having such a major fatal design flaw now. Same thing with the wormhole scene. It's just unfounded excitement for the sake of showing off effects and filling time.  Warp travel is years old as are the warp principles. Things are going so wrong with the ship just after leaving the space dockyard, and then BAM, she works beyond exceptional expectations the rest of the film. What was Scotty up to on that ship the last 18 months? All the malfunctions kind of make him (and Star Fleet technology) look kind of shoddy and bad. He does not even get to show off his "miracle worker" talents...

Spock will arrive just after Ilia and McCoy, but before the ship leaves Earth orbit. It will be as if he was beamed aboard at the last moment. Dialog will be edited and moved around...

Tram station and Commander Sonak seems like padding if I am having Spock arrive so soon in this edit.  What Kirk tells Sonak is almost the exact same thing he tells Scotty in the pod, and the crew on the Rec deck. I love the visuals of the approach to the tram station, and maybe I'll be able to work the tram approach and landing in. Then, just before the tram doors open cut to black. The Titles in orbit then start. That may work. But the chat on the escalator should go. 

Come to think of it, Kirk gets two introduction shots in this film. The first when the air-tram lands in San Francisco, and again when he beams aboard the orbital office complex.  The two shots accomplish the same exact thing. Close up on the star (protagonist) who is entering the story.

I will have to see about the tear. I love the suggestion. If a zoom looks good, I will do it. I would love to know if there is any audio out there of Kirk or McCoy saying the words "crying" or "Tears" with no music behind it so that I could loop it into the scene.

Also, on the remastered Star Trek Original Series there is a CGI shot of the old style enterprise entering 1960's Earth orbit ("Tomorrow is Yesterday" or "Assignment Earth").  Should I try to work this shot into the start of the film, depicting the Enterprising returning from it's five year mission?

Please keep making comments...

In no way is this project without it's challenges. There are quite a few hurdles in the plot to try and overcome.  Like how to Introduce V'ger as a threat to Earth if I change the Klingon battle. I have no fear in trying to change the dynamics of the Epsilon-9 footage. I have a good idea of how to remove the Klingons from the epsilon-9 monitors and soundtrack within the station, and have the cloud be a direct threat to the station and it's heading to Earth soon after. Placing this in the new story time-line is just one problem.

Hello, it is time to start working on this. I have a few ideas that I have had mapped out for some time for this edit, and I would like to list them here. I'm open to suggestions and ideas on how to streamline this film. Please feel free to join in.

None of this is set in stone, it's just a blue-print outline to work from at this point. I'm sure to change things with review and your suggestions.

1) The film will now start out with a written prologue (with footage of the moving star-field in background) explaining that the Enterprise had returned from it's five year mission in 2270 and it is now 13 months later and the crew of the enterprise is now ready for it's continuing mission with new captain William Decker and Kirk is now an Admiral at Starfleet command.  I want to leave the drama and tension between these two characters alone in this edit.

2) Main credits will be interspersed with shots of the Enterprise in drydock. All shots of Kirk in shuttle getting a tour and looking on will be removed.  

3) No San Francisco tram station scene. The orbital dockyard office complex will get an identification caption to introduce the audience to earth. The shots of this station will be trimmed. Kirk and Scotty will enter the travel Pod, but the scene will end soon after Kirk and Scotty's conversation. Music will be changed to help bring this scene to a smooth end. 

4) Klingon Battle is now moved to later in film and will become edited into a 3 way conflict (double jeopardy for the Enterprise) between V'ger / Enterprise and the Klingons.  Audio and some shots may be imported from other Trek films to accomplish this and flesh out the story.   Footage from the wormhole scene will be cut into this battle as well.

3) Spock's Scene on Vulcan is now move later, and seen as part of a flashback during his conversation with Kirk and McCoy in the observation lounge. 

4) No transporter accident (subject to change)

5) Spock arrives sooner in story, and his arrival is trimmed a lot.

6) Scene where Enterprise enters V'ger cloud (now just after battle with Klingons)  Snip, Trim, Snip Snip

More to come...

Did anyone hit one out of the park?

Last night,

Blade Runner (ADM Edit - His audio preference)

Blade Runner (Workprint)

Blade Runner (The Final Cut)

Can't seem to watch just one version of this film. Anytime I get the urge to watch it, I have to sit through multiple versions. I still have not found one that completely satisfies.  

Any news or new developments on this project?

Can't wait to see it.

The Island is Underwater in the alt reality, and in past episode (or episodes) someone (Shannon?) saw a ghost / vision of Walt all wet in a drowning like state. Could there be a link.  Could people in one reality have been trying to communicate with people in an other all along? This is why Hugo sees so called dead people like Dave, Charlie, Anna Lucia, and now Jacob?

This show is a blast...

Darth Hade said:

focuspuller said:

This cover should please. Again, done in a style that completments a Criterion dvd.

 

Utterly amazing!

That is great.

vote_for_palpatine said:

Link?

Keep the day job!

TheBoost said:

FanFiltration said:

Any food product made before they switched to high fructose corn syrup!

What I would give for a Coke circa 1979. "The Real Thing"!

 You can have it.

1- If you live anywhere with a sizeable Mexican population, go to a Mexican market and buy Mexican coke in a bottle. It's still made with cane sugar.

2- Wait until Passover. Buy the Kosher Coke with the yellow cap. It's a seasonal product made with cane sugar (I guess high fructose corn syrup isn't kosher enough or something.)

Thank you sir! Option #1 works very well for me. Tonight I will toast the first gulp to you.

Any food product made before they switched to high fructose corn syrup!

What I would give for a Coke circa 1979. "The Real Thing"!

White Dog Shit!

I am 100% serious! When I was a kid and played or walked in the park or friends yards the poop was white and better able to be avoided.  These days it blends in to well... 

Zelda Rubinstein, the actress best known for her role as the psychic in the horror film "Poltergeist," died in Los Angeles, California, on Wednesday, her agent said. She was 76.

Go into the light Zelda, go into the light!

It must have been that "Poltergeist" curse at work again.

"Superman IV" had an excuse for sucking so bad. I try not to pass harsh judgment on the actors, director, or writers of that mess. The blame must be laid on the producers alone, and their film company Cannon. They went belly up just before filming was to start. The company did not just go broke, they were involved in some nasty business that caused this financial mess.

Things like massive out of control unpaid debts, criminal investigations and allegations, fleeing from justice, suspicious office fires... 

Huge changes had to be made to the already finished script, and planed lavish production design. The budget was slashed to nothing. As a result the entire creative team (Actors, Special Effects, Music, Director, Writers) who where already signed on board and under contract, could not do the job they had intended or signed on for. The heads of Cannon are to blame for this mess.  On the other hand, "Superman Returns" had huge amounts of cash on hand and positive studio support. I say, that the failure of "Returns" is more the fault of the entire creative team. 

January 25, 2010

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former child television star Gary Coleman spent the night behind bars after being arrested at his Utah home on domestic violence charges, according to Utah County jail records.

"what you talkin bout willis?"

This just makes me sad! Why can't this guy put his life in order?

There is going to be a live Cinematic Titanic event on Feb 2, 2010 at the Castro Theater here in San Francisco.

They will be riffing the film "Danger on Tiki Island" .  I very much enjoyed MST3k, but have not seen or heard anything of Cinematic Titanic beyond it's existence.  Has anyone here seen any, or know about these live events, and are they worth going to?  Do they do the riffing live? If so, is it hard following whats going on with people in the audience laughing and all? I would think that if the film audio is playing at the same time the C.T. guys are riffing (over a PA system) and the audience is laughing, it would be a chaotic audio experience to say the least. 

Members of Cinematic Titanic that are going to be there live are:

Joel Hodgson, Trace Beaulieu, J Elvis Weinstein, Frank Conniff, and Mary Jo Pehl