EyeShotFirst

vaderios said:

Is known that Emperor's throne room has some unfinished sets or mattes.

ignore the second pic. it was there from previous mockup set

005 has on his to do list this issue.

-Angel

Angel, you are going to be the end of Lucasfilm LOL

Here is a quick mockup. To me it adds the fire of the original script. It adds new colour and it makes palpy look like he actually rules the galaxy instead of just being in a dark danky tower.

vaderios said:

Ok.It seems the folks from MBII did their job pretty well.

Right click-View image to see it in full REz

As you can see: Surface, and missing set exteriors from that poor set piece.

ideas brainstorming all welcome.

 

-Angel

I saw a map for Jedi Academy that was right on the money. Of course I haven't played JA for a long time.

vaderios said:

adywan said:

The end shot in ROTS shouldn't have shown the Death Star being created but instead a vast shipyard of the Imperial fleet being built (which it will do in my edit). So all available money was being ploughed into creating the Empire. The whole ending of that movie was just too rushed to tie up all the loose ends

Digging old posts I remembered this.

 

Now I made several thoughts about that and how it should look. No matter what it should be in great scale and more extended view of it. having Imp SDs replacing slowly the Venators SD, this shot(s) should be balanced from the point of the wow fact so its not overshadow the previous money shots. Models/mattes and 3d should be in the blender to give a stunning result with the blessings of OT feeling.

I will make some mockups for sure for brainstorming.

-Angel

 

PS: Do you think that is good to include executor (as present from the emperor to Mr V.)? Or just leave only capital ships on the scene?

I would like to see the executor only in the OT. It would make it more like it is the newest technology. Top of the line.

What ever happened to Jar Jar?

Jabba The Hutt: Wooopie Conju poopoo (I need a new slave)

Bib Fortuna: Master Jabba finda you bitch

Jabba The Hutt: Booo Foona cowa choopa (Go now Tentacle head)

Bib Fortuna: Master Jabba I founda your biotcha

Jar Jar Binx: AHHHHHHHHHH yousa fat. Oh no yousaa have back titties. Ohh moy moy nasty. Yousa eatin the boobas. Oh no

jabba presses the royal rancor button and down goes jar jar.

Rancor: Rarrrrrrrrrrrr

Jar Jar Binx: Ewwwww stinky icky breath. Moy Moy big teeth.

Rancor: RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

Jar Jar Binx: What did you spake?

The rancor devoured jar jar all was well in the galaxy OR WAS IT!!!!!!!!!!

Anchorhead said:

I thought this was a very interesting article about the current state of the Summer Blockbuster, and in a sense the film industry as a whole. We were discussing this at work recently.  We also touched on it here, in Gaffer's G.I. Joe discussion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/movies/09scot.html?8dpc

 This passage from the article really stood out to me;

...those reliable axioms about the taste and expectations of the mass movie audience are not so much laws of nature as artifacts of corporate strategy. And the lessons derived from them conveniently serve to strengthen a status quo that increasingly marginalizes risk, originality and intelligence.

 To me, reality television falls under this same umbrella strategy.  If the studios (film & TV) serve only crap - then that's what people will watch when they tune in or go the local theater.  The studios created the world they claim we want. The truth is, they seldom offer up alternatives. It's like the owner of a sea food restaurant claiming that his customers only want fish because that's what they always order.

To me, it doesn't feel as though there are any signs of this trend letting up.  We've had multiple discussions on this very board - a board where films are a major theme and the members span several generations - and it doesn't appear to me that being spoon-fed two hours of shiny objects and pretty colors is what movie-goers really want.  Yet, we continue to get it anyway.  No wonder so many people feel disenfranchised these days. We're losing our voice, while the studios continue to say they hear us.

I don't see the business ever changing for the opinions of the movie goers. Come on, they toss out sequels, remakes, and prequels then the go running to the bank with their wheel barrels and shovels then they do the same thing next month. If they are making the cash, they aren't going to change a thing. This article made me happy (because someone agrees with me FINALLY) and sad because it's the truth!!

Now I bitch and moan about the condition of Film,TV, Music, Etc all of the time. Things are so bad that I am thinking of just unhooking my cable and just watching movies I know are good. Because I won't be dissapointed and I won't be wasting my money on seeing one more shootemup movie. The article had another great thing to say about the movie up.

“Up,” the only hugely successful movie of the summer that engages genuinely adult themes. It’s about loss, frustration, disappointment. And it offers one of the season’s most pointed and paradoxical lessons. If you want to make a mature film for mature audiences, make sure it’s a cartoon."

Now I understand the meaning of Metallica's song "Sad But True" even more.

vote_for_palpatine said:

Thanks for the link, Anchorhead. That was a well-argued, well-written piece.

I love the idea of a boycott as a form of protest, but there are two problems with that strategy:

1) Boycotts would have to gain traction with the public at large - and that chunk of the populace is least likely to worry about this dumbing down of popular cinema. I really do believe that most moviegoers are just looking for a nice two hour vacation from home and don't care too very much about the quality of the film. Film buffs care, but they are badly outnumbered.

Definitely, the majority of kids going to see these movies want to see Jason Statham getting blown up, Angelina Jolie getting it on will shooting someone and Jet Li using his bad ass kung fu skills to cover up his bad acting.

2) When mostly every movie at the local Cinema 12 is a CGI-crapfest shoot-em-up, which one of those features is going to get the business end of the boycott?

That's what the brainless meat puppets want to see and sadly Brainless Meat Puppets are the majority. THEY ARE THE POWA

The only way to turn this around is slowly and gradually. When you go out to rent (or log on to NetFlix), look for story-driven films. Look for character-driven films. Don't look for "name" actors - in fact, the films might even be better in their absence

Actually all of the actors I look for when I watch movies are starting to go down the deep dark road of crappy films. Even Harrison Ford has to beat the shit out of someone who is on his plane, train, or automobile. Or has his Family.

And when you find films you do like, recommend them with enthusiasm to friends, co-workers, relatives, etc. Steer clear of anything that remotely resembles a "blockbuster".

I tried showing my friend Immortal Beloved and he called me a fag because he said it was a chick flick.

That's about the only solution I can offer

Really my only solution would be for us to all start making our own movies.

vaderios said:

Its not hate. its Anger!

Lags with quatro CPUs

Windows are in tabs.

Windows overlap other windows and tool boxes.

Repositioned almost all the adjustment and other tools (or whatever call them)

OpenGL features (apart the rotated canvas ) suck.

 

All i want for CS3 is the rotated canvas. all the rest do the job hell more difficult when you have many images open.

I hope CS5 consider all these... :)

 

-Angel

I have to agree with Angel on that one. CS3 is just so much easier to use. And faster to boot. It's like comparing XP to Vista. In the end XP just dominates.

Damn Double Post

vaderios said:

doubleofive said:

I'm thinking the moon should be completely dark at this point.

Almost because if its black we lose the sense of space and perspective. Or we can add Endor behind the moon to add depth.

I added some Fleet and vader's ship (where did it go?)

 

-Angel

 

Wow. Just Wow. The Death Star needed some freakin construction going on in there.

oh_riginal said:

doubleofive said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Ady isn't killing Lando. He said so himself.

Ah, but this is the Wishlist for any/all RotJ edits (and ESB, but most people tend to put their ESB ideas on Ady's thread).  Killing Lando is still an option for some edits.

 

Amen.

I don't feel bothered by the explosion of the Death Star. Yeah, so what if the first Death Star exploded in an instant! Luke still had time from when he shot his proton torpedo to get a good, safe distance away from the explosion.

It's the escape that is exciting to watch. It was definitely one of my favorite parts of ROTJ as a kid. The only thing that (barely at all) bothers me is that the Falcon takes way longer to reach the core than it takes for it to get back to the surface. It should be about the same amount of time, judging by the speed Lando is flying the ship both ways.

But, as I said, I'm barely bothered at all by that.

Well also you tend to do things better the second time around. Hell I thought I would never beat Tomb Raider but after I finally did I can beat in no time.

doubleofive said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Ady isn't killing Lando. He said so himself.

Ah, but this is the Wishlist for any/all RotJ edits (and ESB, but most people tend to put their ESB ideas on Ady's thread).  Killing Lando is still an option for some edits.  Its a viable option for those who want to get away from the "outrunning an explosion" problem.

I don't know why everyone is making such a fuss about the damn explosion. Hell you can't have an explosion like that in space anyway so let's just keep it the fictional world that it is.

vaderios said:

Bingowings said:

Maybe someone else can do a better render of the same idea?

If i wasn't witness this with my eyes i could say that you hacked my pc because i was making what you made ( with some enhancements) 2 days ago.

:D

Now we both know that is an awesome idea hehe

EDIT:

 

-Angel

Now that is beautiful. Keep that around when Ady starts work on ROTJ:R

oh_riginal said:

doubleofive said:

Maybe we shouldn't think of it as ONE massive explosion, but a chain reaction of explosions.  Certainly the Falcon could outrun a chain reaction.  With some creative editing, I think one could convey the idea of things being overloaded and exploding instead of one huge explosion working its way outward.  Maybe have the DS break apart instead of just pop (the last one popped, maybe since this one isn't fully built it could just break apart?).  Just a thought.

Unless you just kill off Lando.  Then you don't have to do anything.  (If Fishman can post his mockups, then I can certainly repost the only video one I've ever done!)

 

I am still of the "Save Lando" camp, so I would go with the former idea, rather than the latter.

But don't we already get some minor Death Star destruction during the scene when Luke is dragging Vader to the shuttle? I thought there were sparks and other such things happening? Maybe enhancing some of that may work? I'd have to watch that scene again to see if that would even be possible.

Ady isn't killing Lando. He said so himself.

Darth Solo said:

Ripplin said:

Darth Solo said: I have loads of trouble taking each individual hair off my face every few days. 

I can imagine! Most guys generally just shave the beard/mustache area, not the whole face! ;)

 

 

OK you cracked me up on that one. Im not a mexican wolf boy. ALA Bo in USA. Although some parts of my body, erm...(spread like wild fire!). Thats why i wear these red robes, but even then a few tufts of hair stick out.

What the hell am i going on about? (looks like a bad day to lay off the crystal meth i guess)

See, even the popcorn head has a scence of humour at times.

Try having a back that would make chewbacca freak out. ARRRRRRRRRRRFFFFF

vaderios said:

As i promised. New death star with several organic works on its wip section.(still consdering the idea of ships flying around it. Or TIES to show more the scale of this metal beast)

Bingo's idea to look like eclipse in front of the sun and greater scale so its not a ball that stands there.

-Angel

Angel if you were a woman I would marry you LOL JK

vaderios said:

As i promised. New death star with several organic works on its wip section.(still consdering the idea of ships flying around it. Or TIES to show more the scale of this metal beast)

Bingo's idea to look like eclipse in front of the sun and greater scale so its not a ball that stands there.

 

-Angel

Angel if you were a woman I would marry you LOL JK

budwhite said:

Lets say this take a year of hard work and money for the ones involved. And than Lucas relases the Blu-ray in 2011 including the unaltered trilogy. It is possible after all, however, not likely in my opinon.

 

I guess my point being if this project is ever to see the light of day it should be done fast.

 

Also, if this, somehow, would be scanned in HD. Then it really puts Lucas in a position that he has to release the orginal on Blu-ray.  I mean what a dissaster and an ambarrassament for him, if a fan project turned up in that (presumable)great quality

It would be a little better laser disc quality LOL

vaderios said:

My ass is on fire!!!

Lol epic fail to MF :)

 

Awesome job ESF

 

-Angel

LOL it is a shame Billy Dee never said that in a movie we could use that LOL

D0CT0R_W40 said:

That's actually not as bad as I thought.

We just need to find someone who's willing to do it (the hard part) and collect generous donations (the other hard part).  Dust/scratches are the only thing I'm worried about.  It would be best to have a second print, then combine them to get the best out of both.  This would of course more than double the costs...but would also be better in the longrun.

I think once we do EpIV, people will be more willing to make donations for V & VI.

Just set up a televangelist business and you will have plenty of money LOL

Hey for all of you Millennium Falcon destruction fans. Here is the falcon if it barely made it out of the death star II alive

Darth Solo said:

adywan said:

Well just a quick update:

.............And i've also begun building the new Wampa puppet. Not looking forward to attaching each individual hair on the face though. 

 

Well, u started the idea. I'll give you a hand if you wish as it would be a labour of love.

I got the opposite problem though, I have loads of trouble taking each individual hair off my face every few days. 

Why no has a razor?

skyjedi2005 said:

If it was actually shot on film had minimal cgi, good character writing and scripts i would watch it.  Especially if it tried to emulate the style of the true star wars trilogy and not that shitty add on series.

I will watch the pilot and if it isn't up to my standards I will not get worked up. Of course several TV shows have shitty pilots. I just don't believe in Lucas anymore.

vaderios said:

Pretty good. Dont know if it can work because of the camera angles. if you cut the AOTC clip it can work because it will be only far shots so when we meet Luke is from a far angle to a close one.

 

lol the comment at the end. Sounded like Manga dialogue :P

 

-Angel

Oh no he's too badass LOL.

I agree. I wouldn't use the Duel of Fates either because it is so Anti-OT. Plus it is used way more than the imperial march.

Darth Venal said:

Oh_riginal:

I support this idea to an extent. Yes, the Death Star is still under construction, but the laser is supposed to basically be 100% finished already (unbeknownst to the Rebellion at first). The mock-up does a great job of showing how it might look in the firing chamber as being 99% finished (just missing the fancy "shine" of the panels, as mentioned).

But the red iron stuff seems to be more like the construction of gun towers and such. I would imagine that yes, there may be some of that stuff used in the construction of the laser, but if the laser is completed enough to the point of being operational, it would need to have its interior be strong and durable... and in this case, only missing panels, nothing more.

 

But why does everything have to be shiny to be finished? Given the immense destructive capability of the weapon, I'm not sure a few metal panels would make any difference.

If I were to make any change, it would be to make the firing chambers immensely bigger (is immensely a word?) because I don't really feel the true power of lasers that are only as thick as the officers standing beside them.

I'd shrink down the size of the guards and their station to me very small next to the weapon, that's the only real way to give it true scale.

I think the guards should be wearing protective armour. Come on a laser that big should melt anyone standing next to it.