vaderios said:
At least i propose night eyes like cat's
Edit: Shit i wouldnt want to see that in front of me :P
-Angel
That rancor looks worthy of Jurassic Park now. I think I might get the shivers watching it. I hope Ady adds scarier sounds. To me the rancor sounds to distorted.
vaderios said:Darth Solo said:Yeah and everyone knows V has a thing for blue'es ;-P
is that bad? XD
-Angel
Angel made his deal with the devil at the crossroads. Angel wanted to learn dem blues. So everything Angel does is with the soul of the blues.
read this while listening to the crossroads soundtrack and you'll feel dem blues.
It is blasphemy to say that the original star wars was poorly directed. Poorly budgeted yes but I think George did a great job with what little funds he had. Star Wars looked better than any of big budget films of it's day.
Vaderisnothayden said:skyjedi2005 said:seriously i wonder if that was georges acting advice for him, sneer like an asshole and whine like a spoiled rotten brat.Honestly I think it was. I think George actually wanted what Hayden delivered, bizarre as that may seem. Not that it makes Hayden's acting any more excusable. It's not an actor doing a brilliant job playing lame.
Gary Oldman is an amazing actor. The majority of his roles were really bad roles but he made you believe them. Hayden is just bad. George's characters were never really that good it was just the actors that saved them. Liam Neeson seemed to do a really good job even though he hated his character. Same goes for Sir Alec Guinness. Christopher Lee did as good as normally but his dialogue was what killed it for me. I cringe when Leia says "you stuck up, halfwitted, scruffy looking, Nerf Herder!!!!!!" LOL. I feel so sorry for any actor in a Star Wars film. Good acting or not really the dialogue ruins it. Harrison Ford did such a good job because he said what he wanted. Mark Hammil Tried his best but in the end George Lucas wouldn't let him. If the actors had free reign on their roles imagine how it would have been. It was already amazing but anything can be improved upon. The prequels were just so Lucas dominated that nobody had a say. If it were the same people working who worked on the OT it would be different. I just think the 90's lucasfilm crew were gutless. Somebody needed to grow some balls and tell Lucas what didn't work. The PT really needed people who were actual fans of the original movies. If they were directed by people who were original fans the films would be
1. Films not digital.
2. Character driven not Effects driven (what happened GL you said 27 years ago that "A special effect is just means of telling a story, A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing" those were the words of a once genius. I still follow those words to this day...
3. They would work with the OT not against it. It is one thing to make a prequel but to make the prequels in such a way that they don't work for the originals.
The Golden Idol said:So, what exactly is Ady working on now? Wampa puppet?
That is a big project in it's self. I could only imagine how much work could go into applying each hair. Hopefully there isn't too much involved in that. Where did Ady get a wampa did he make one himself or is there a place you can get secondhand wampas. Maybe Ady should go into the mountains of east and find an abominable snowman to film LOL.
I am glad we are doing The Phantom Menace first. To me it needs the least work of the PT. But the little work on the film can be used to do more than required. Bingowings I remember your ideas and I really think they should be used.
As for the fighters. Couldn't we make them a single colour like a flat grey with different colour stripes similar to the x-wings.
The real funny thing is that child Annie didn't whine near as much as Hayden Annie. They should have considered somebody better for the role of anikan. I would take Mark Wahlberg anyday. I don't know why I like Marky Mark but I think he could have actually made that shitty dialogue convincing.
Ric I think you should have been Leia's daddy with a line like "STARDESTROYER" it would make more sense.
neebis said:Personally, I think the number one problem with the prequels is that Lucas didn't hand over the project to a new generation of writers and directors. There were so many talented up-and-coming names mentioned in the 90s that would undoubtedly have done something infinitely better than what we got.
Whenever I think about the prequels, I think about all the super-talented and creative artists and technicians who grew on the Star Wars films and studied and worked their whole lives to grow up and live the dream working at ILM and Lucasfilm on producing new Star Wars films. Then they all ended up being trapped having to work on garbage. I wonder how many of them were working on the films and thinking to themselves, "This stuff is horrible," but they couldn't do anything about it because they knew they wouldn't be able to get through to George anyway and they didn't want to rock the boat for fear of losing their jobs. I just wish he had handed over the reins to the next generation of filmmakers, who were the equivalent of who he was in '75.
I know the magic of the original series could never be recaptured, but the prequels (or whatever new films) still could have been something special. Unfortunately, what they ended up with was a gaping black hole of wasted opportunity.
It was basically a first draft of a screenplay in my eyes. George whipped together a screenplay and didn't even bother to listen to the paper clip. I feel the films could have been something. The Phantom Menace had just a hint of that. But really it is sad to say that the Star Wars film that ended the fans love ended up being the best of the 3. Really I think the star wars saga works better if you change episode 4,5,and 6 to episode 1,2, and 3 you no longer have the problem. That is why I am waiting for ChainsawAsh's edits because to me they will be the Star Wars saga. If Ady is able to make the prequels better I will probably tear up and cheer. I am not saying I am as good as Ady but I have a notebook full of possible prequel changes some impossible and I just can't get them to work. Fan Editing could save them but I can't. I have a love for Star Wars and I have been a fan since way before special editions or prequels and I can't find a single way to save them. My best idea turns them into an un-soggy shit sandwhich. I guess the best thing to do is what many of the older members like anchorhead do and just forget they even exist. To me and to many others the last Star Wars movie was ROTJ. I tried to defend them. But I cannot any longer.
Savage said:And I would like to again stress me feeling that ROTJ doesn't need Fett at all. He can easily be excised and it in no way impacts the story. All that is lost character-wise is Han's bumbling revenge and defeat of Boba which is another bad attempt at humor and a poor end to the character.
Axe him. He did his job and got paid. Why would he hang around Jabba's palace macking on 'dancers' when there's more money to get in the universe? He can have sex with skanks any time, but that's a different movie and I bet there's a fan-fic somewhere out there about just that....
Definitely, Boba Fett seems like the type of character that would get the job done, take his pay, and disappear into the shadows. Boba Fett in ESB was that character. If we just yank Boba out of ROTJ he will be the same as he was in ESB. After all, his appearance in ROTJ was just food for the fans. Hey kids it's Boba Fett.
Davnes007 said:I thought it was "BIGz"...?
When I was a kid when Luke said "Biggs is right I am never getting outta this place." I thought he said "FixIts Right" LOL
skyjedi2005 said:lucas quote " I think it's the director's prerogative, not the studio's to go back and reinvent a movie."
I bolded and inderlined the important part.
See this is pretty much the proof that during the making of the special edition he set out to reboot the universe from scratch even without reshooting the original trilogy.
Star Wars 1977 did not need to be reinvented it was a masterpiece and a near perfect movie, the genius editing and score made do with what little budget lucas had at the time to tell a narrative that was free of cynicism and was a purely joyful experience to watch, and just a good amount of fun.
Why change a film that everyone loved for generations, well anybody but Lucas that is.
How nuts is it to make a film that changed cinema, brought back fun to the movies and think it is shit. It is crazy to hate something that you yourself made that resonated with generations of the young and old. Was star wars just a happy mistake for its fans and an unhappy moment in time for george?
I can't see why he is like that. If I had created something like Star Wars I would be sitting with a fat smile on face and my arms crossed. I would be so proud of myself. Whenever I do something that people love it gives me a high unlike anything. As a musician and an artist I get tickled to death when somebody says wow that's good. If I created something like that I would try my damnedest to preserve it. And to keep it alive for generations to generations. If I created Star Wars I would transmit it to space and say that it actually happened LOL watch out ET. I would want my children to enjoy it the way I enjoyed it. A good film will last forever regardless of if it looks dated or not. Star Wars has this lasting effect. After I watch Star Wars I wanna watch it again and again. I just wish it was treated as well as other timeless classics.
I am starting to feel bad for Lucas bashing because A. I really don't like talking about people B. It isn't getting anything done because my voice is silent. We ask for the Original Unaltered Trilogy on DVD we get a lossy-Laserdisc transfer that plays in our DVD players. When I think of Star Wars, I think of being 5 years old in my parents' basement during weekends watching them on VHS. I remember how fun it was to relax on the carpet in front of an old 26'' Zenith floor model television and thinking that those were the best films of all time. Why now when I think of Star Wars I think that I am being defecated on. When I think of Blade Runner I think wow Ridley Scott loves his fans. But George really doesn't seem to care. I will never ever get to see Star Wars like I originally did. I can type all night about this but really I am just one of the many that miss Star Wars. At least I can stand tall and say I have seen Star Wars. The things people under 16 have seen are just impostors. All I want is to see Star Wars as Star Wars instead of Star Wars Episode 4 A New Hope. I guess we are all just unimportant to George Lucas. There isn't even enough of us to boycott all things Lucasfilm. The petition worked but really didn't work to our advantage.
Davnes007 said:Just something I noticed while doing a bit of editing.........
That shouldn't be to hard to fix. Good eye Dave!!!!!!!!
It isn't success that causes people to start producing crap. I admit that people will sell out. But we are not to blame. If I had a huge following for something I did I would try my best to keep those people happy.
as SkyJedi stated George basically just swept what in his mind is just a workprint under the rug. The only evidence of the original trilogy as it was from 77-83 is our minds and the shitty VHSs and Laserdisc copies we have sitting on our shelves next to movies that suck and have actually been remastered and released in high definition. You can't go out and buy the original trilogy in atleast 720p but you can go out and buy Gone With The Wind restored to beautiful quality on blu ray.
Have the Imperial guard do more guarding (possibly part restoring the Vader choke scene by having him choke a guard instead of Jejerrod).
Here ya go 005
Ric Olie I am trying to quit smoking. What things would you do to quit?
Terrible acting is common in the prequels. It is a shocker when the acting is good. I doubt the cast from the OT could make these movies much better. They are just really badly written.
brash_stryker said:I'm fine with some backward-speak being present, but not to the extent that it is currently. It's like he's been played as a caricature of himself. Much like Threepio's campyness. They were never this exaggerated in the OT.
Yeah I hate how threepio is just some clueless peice of plastic instead of the self loving know it all he was in OT. Threepio had a human quality too him. In the prequels he is just a shiney robotic ric olie.
doubleofive said:EyeShotFirst said:Ruja said:Make the Death Star leave debris in orbit after the big explosion, even with two or three bigger sections intact, something like what happens to the Moon in The Time Machine:
One of the best things in the time machine was the cliff houses. I think something similar could be done in ROTJ?. Thanks for that picture it helps in many ways. ADD TO THE LIST 005
OK, I added the pieces of DS after he posted it, then added the picture. You like the cliff houses? for the ewok village?
Yeah they could be in the trees. Or the elven forrest in Lord Of The Rings is cool too.
I don’t know if you have seen this but it tells you mostly about John Williams but it has George, Gary Kurtz, Kershner. It was made in about 79 or 80.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGsbKZnaT8E
Also has some glory shots. It isn’t that good as far as quality but it is good enough.
Ruja said:Make the Death Star leave debris in orbit after the big explosion, even with two or three bigger sections intact, something like what happens to the Moon in The Time Machine:
One of the best things in the time machine was the cliff houses. I think something similar could be done in ROTJ?. Thanks for that picture it helps in many ways. ADD TO THE LIST 005
that is what it would have looked like
Bingowings said:It really does seem to me that Dooku was meant to be Qui-Gon (who was never a Sith Lord) and the Jedi were meant to be fooled into picking the wrong side in a war and Lucas had to wiggle his way around Neeson not wanting to work with Lucas after TPM.
Imagine how good they would be if Liam would have been in all 3. Really I do agree. I mean look Dooku is a jedi that was really at the top of the heap like Qui Gon. He was Qui Gon's apprentice too. He didn't show up until episode 2. So he was!!!!!!!!!! You are right on the money. Liam can play that kind of role. He played Dark Man very well. It really would have been a whole lot more interesting to see Anikan or even Obi Wan kill Qui Gon in ROTS.
vaderios said:How about instead of the boring fully exposed reactor replace/add something more impressive and the rebels have to maneuver more in there.
I was thinking something like the warp machine from the Contact movie.
Those rings could turning around the core that provides energy and an impressive money shot.
Just one suggestion - where the window is, and where the Death Star surface is, I think there should be a small hint of sunlight coming from the sun on the other side of Endor
Well true, but i left it "moodless" because im toying with the idea. I will do some sunrise shots someday later.
-Angel
It would be cool. And they wouldn't have to be "How are we gonna do that?" Wedge and Lando are 2 of some of the greatest pilots in the galaxy. It would make the empire look like they are actually trying to protect it. Great idea. Mockup?
