EyeShotFirst

Well he did flee to France for years too. I don't think he should be made an example of but instead just tried and thrown in jail without all the drama involved with celebrities. Why do we have to put them on a pedestal. Michael Jackson is a good example of that. Why must we treat people who make films/music/etc like they are gods. They are just people who do a job that makes them way more money than you do. We don't go to country clubs and worship millionaires while they are golfing. Throw him in jail like any old criminal and stop talking about it.

shanerjedi said:

adywan said:

DarkJedi3P0 said:

Ric Olie said:

adywan said:

I know the PT:R is a long way off but a hell of a lot of things will be changing drastically  in those films when i get to them.

*gulp*

 haha dont worry Mr Olie. you will probably be safe (:

Mr Olie may be safe but his dialogue certainly won't be. lol

No! Don't ruin Cpt. Obvious! He was so brilliant in his obviousness. :p

For a long time I have been tempted to write an EU novel starring Ric. As a joke I would make every thing he says an observation. It would even be narrated by him. So the whole novel would be an observation of his observations.

adywan said:

DarkJedi3P0 said:

Ric Olie said:

adywan said:

I know the PT:R is a long way off but a hell of a lot of things will be changing drastically  in those films when i get to them.

*gulp*

 haha dont worry Mr Olie. you will probably be safe (:

Mr Olie may be safe but his dialogue certainly won't be. lol

Replace his dialogue with Del Preston lines from Wayne's World 2. Just kidding. His character would be more believable if you just use his body language more. But I would miss his comedic effect.

Okay. Here is my attempt at making the ewoks tougher. starting with the cutest one.

here it was before

Monroville said:

shanerjedi said:

Monroville said:

I say get rid of the tree traps and replace them with pits and the like.  Trees can still be a factor - Scout Walker steps into a pit; as Scout Walker's leg sinks down halfway, ground starts to cave ala a sinkhole; as the rest sinks in, the trees on either side topple over on top of the SW, crushing and blowing it up.

I still say give the Ewoks something explosive to account for getting through the Stormtrooper armor - be it explosive arrow heads and bolas. Maybe even having a scene where one Ewok raises his hand and we see retractable claws pop out and THEN he jumps on top of the Stormtrooper, followed by other Ewoks.  Blood wouldn't have to be shown, though some nice tearing and squishing sounds could be used ala AMERICAN WEREWOLF or something to get the idea across.  Remember that Koalas are pretty damn cute too, but have sharp claws for climbing trees and can get pretty pissed off.

The idea is that these are primitive creatures fighting advanced tech. Sticks and stones versus hi-tech. That was the whole point Lucas went with them instead of the original Wookies.

Just because the Ewoks are supposed to be a primitive tribe doesn't mean they can't improvise or use their intelligence to work around the technology of the Empire.  Also keep in mind that Lucas was originally set to direct APOCALYPSE NOW (until he got the go-ahead to do STAR WARS) and it is more or less his general ideas for AN working their way into STAR WARS - so the corollary can also be the Vietnamese versus the American army/ Mujahadeen versus the Russians/ Partisans versus the Nazis.

There also has to be a realistic means of the Ewoks being able to defeat the Empire - just having bows and arrows wouldn't be enough.  There would have to be something that gives the Ewoks simply the ability to win.

I say they should use the imperials weapons against them. Give a ewok a stormtrooper blaster. Come on, I watched discovery channel the other day and saw an African tribe with uzis.

ImperialFighter said:

 

 

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to this, since it's been brought up.

The concept of forest-dwelling, very diminutive, furry critters that are able to kick Imperial Troop's butt using primitive weapons was fine in itself....but did they have to end up looking so damned 'teddybear'-like?.... -  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/b7/Ewoks-endor.jpg

I just wish that more of them had the kind of facial look (and headgear) that 'Teebo' has as we first see Luke and co. surrounded by the Ewoks.  The fur that overlaps the top of his nose is a detail that I'd have liked to have seen on the majority of them too, as I was never keen on how prominent the noses look on the final Ewok costumes. -  http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/4/4f/Teebo_rotj.jpg/250px-Teebo_rotj.jpg

Maybe a bone / tooth 'adornment' sticking through a nostril on a couple of them would add a little something?

But the main thing that I reckon could make them look just a little bit more 'fiercesome' overall, would be to blacken out some of the ridiculous 'chipmunk'-like teeth in a few of them, and just give them a couple of upwardly protruding teeth from the bottom of their mouths instead.  Here's a couple of examples of something along the lines of what I mean -

http://swyattart.deviantart.com/art/Wolfman-2009-136133505

http://brainfuel.tv/postimages/king_kong.jpg

Maybe some deeper-sounding noises and dialogue would have improved things too, along the way.

I do happen to like this particular ewok illustration though, which has an 'eye-patch' added.  That would make a neat addition to one of them too. -  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ewok-SWGTCGAoD.jpg

 

Those are all really nice ideas. I will work on a mockup of all your ideas. Everyone else can to if they want.

But really I agree. Lets remove all cuteness.

Bingowings said:

vaderios said:

yeah sweet but why?

Fett isnt like judge dredd? never reveal his face.

In an ideal world he would have been just like Dredd (no not the crap film version) and Fett would never show his (or her) face.

It would have been nice to have at least one mystery man remain a mystery.

Lucas just doesn't get Star Wars, he's like some little kid who has accidentally said something beautifully enigmatic or very funny and then spoils it by trying to do it again and again without figuring out how.

I knew a really obnoxious guy in high school who accidentally made everyone laugh one day. So he tried to be a comedian and dug the most enormous hole of cheesiness. What went from a laugh out loud moment turned to rolling eyes and sighs.

vaderios said:

JJ?

lol :P

And this is what would happen if J. J. Abrams was allowed to make special editions of the classic show.

Glad to hear how the project is going -1.

I "patiently" look forward to seeing this.

Fits in perfectly.

I use Photoshop CS3 mostly. But I just got a crisp copy of ArchiCAD from my dad. So I am going to do some 3D work. Taking a CAD class was a good decision because this is just a beefed up version of AutoCAD.

tehwallaby said:

Does anyone have MP3s or Wavs of the original Boba Fett voice from ESB?

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-two.html

Just look under the pictures of Boba Fett (each clip is under a picture from the scene that it coincides with) You can chose the original version or the new version. Using Firefox I was given the option to download the mp3 files so Merry Christmas.

I have been working on the control room of the Ion Cannon. The matte is proving itself to be pretty difficult without a good 3d program but I am doing it for fun. I will be posting it when ever I get done with it.  

ChainsawAsh said:

how much better it would have been to not include "Episode V."  How much easier would it be to pretend the prequels didn't exist!

LOL greatest words man has ever uttered.

shanerjedi said:

vaderios said:

I like the extra detail of the new one.

 

-Angel

Sometimes extra detail makes things look less realistic, especially if you're trying to convince audiences they're looking at something large and set back in the frame with distance between the viewer and the object.

Plus an Ion Cannon (even a shiney one) would be dulled up by the harsh cold and the snow. The shiney one does look great and I would support seeing one in the space battle in ROTJ on one of the ships. But for Hoth I would say leave the Ion Cannon alone.

The biggest problem with making a prequel is when the casting director goes for who looks the most like the character in the original. They don't care at all as long as they look enough like the character. In the beginning of the movie Braveheart there was a young actor playing William Wallace. He didn't look at all like Mel Gibson but he practiced his mannerisms and got them down perfect so the seams met in a way that made the film seamless. Then you have a movie like Star Trek with that horrible Chris Pine. He didn't even bother to try to be William Shatner. He had the look fairly close but really didn't capture the essence of William Shatner's performance (it isn't that hard LOL). 

Most people would prefer seeing somebody who looks like the original character, but a true fan of any original film would like to see somebody who convinces them that they are the same character without looking extremely close to the original.

My biggest problem with the dialogue in the prequels is they say some of the same shit they do in the originals. Amidala talking about "discussing this in a committee" a classic Han line. All the damn aliens call people Bantha Fodder.

And why does every sith say "Search your feelings and you will know it to be true." Darth Vader said it first in ESB then after that everybody says it.

It was like George Lucas had a hat full of lines. He pulls one out every time a character says something and sticks it in the script.

DarthBo said:

 

Darth Venal said:

EyeShotFirst:

It was nice but they should never add a character when the actor who played them died. IN ANY FILM. At least Alec Guiness was still alive when Ewan McGregor took over the role.

What does that even mean? Was it a joke?

clearly the prequels would have been better if sir Alec Guiness had played the younger Obi-Wan

 

I was stating that Alec Guiness was around to see somebody portray his character. If he actually liked working on Star Wars he could have given a thumbs up or thumbs down but I don't think he cared.

Darth Venal said:

Haha how could I forget The Thing? I managed to forget Rob Bottin and his crew! That just opens up a whole other can... he designed what is one of my favourite movie creatures of all time, the Gremlin on the wing in Twilight Zone: The Movie. I absolutely love that thing, and it was acted with real character. Bottin also did amazing work on Legend, both Tim Curry's Darkness make-up and especially Robert Picardo as Meg Mucklebones. He also did great make-up for Picardo on Explorers, Total Recall (the Johnny Cab!) and the pioneering stuff on The Howling (predating American Werewolf). I also like a lot of the work that KNB have done; despite the bad movie, their head and body make-up on Jason in Friday the 13th Part VII is fantastic. Even the awful Planet of the Apes remake had incredible make-up, as did the originals for their time.

Hauling this back on topic, all that amazing stuff really makes me care less for some of the stuff in Star Wars. It's funny, when I was a kid, I thought Star Wars was as good as it gets, and I never understood why my Dad wasn't that impressed. Now, I can see just how bland so much of it is.

All special effects are amazing when you are a kid.

I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark 2 days ago in the scene were the nazis face melts. I know how they did it and how funny it looks. But when I was a kid I would have put my hands over my eyes and hid under a throw pillow.

Regarding Tim Curry in Legend I agree 100%. The makeup job they did for him was just pure amazing. If it wasn't for seeing his name in the opening credits and knowing his voice so well I would have never known it was Tim Curry. I haven't seen makeup that good anywhere.

Rhikter said:

shanerjedi said:

IMHO, it would be better to just take him out altogether as it's just another fan service moment...

And, this is a problem why?

Cause he looks like Peter Cushing fell into to a vat of hot oil and gained weight. It was nice but they should never add a character when the actor who played them died. IN ANY FILM. At least Alec Guiness was still alive when Ewan McGregor took over the role.

Well maybe he can see things with the force in colour. But seeing things in red would just suck. Maybe he could have predator vision angel.

Everybody says Heath Ledger and Jack Nicholson are the best jokers. But I don't think my childhood would have been the same without your joker. Happy Birthday.

Good work angel. Why did I always think vader saw things in blue though LOL.

Ric Olie said:

Bingowings said:

It would turn Palpatine into a prune faced evil version of Doc Brown (or Ric Olie).

Evil version of me? Isn't possible that I'm evil? What if the Ric you thought you were serving no longer exists, and I have become the very evil you've been fighting to destroy?

You can't be evil. You made sure Ozzy had his brown M&Ms and played a great show that night.

doubleofive said:

Bringing back the rearranging of the ending sequence of RotS.  This is from the "'Explanations' of Vader" thread on SW General:

Bingowings said:

Tarkin was a Wayne Pygram in a halloween mask : 

Wow, that's not the best makeup job, and why on earth is he so old 20 years before ANH?!  Here's a picture of Peter Cushing in 1957's The Curse of Frankenstein.

He looks great!  Certainly not ancient like RotS Tarkin.  Maybe it didn't take 20 years to build the new Death Star, maybe the movie should have ended with the construction just like has been suggested!  Perhaps that is what was meant all along?

Here you go buddy. This should be really easy knowing he doesn't speak or really move much.

vaderios said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Angel, I did something fun with your Rancor mockup.

;)

 

Actually i was thinking how we can make solo's awake more decent.

If you ignore the gel on han's face, the organic wax something look around him, makes the transition from the hot timpana to the solid one rather just solid.

 

-Angel

I know something can be done. I messed with the levels of han when he is ultra magenta earlier today and I made his skin tone natural. It is just fixing what is around him. I think That is a good idea. Is there anyway to have carbonite ozzing out of his hands. I mean it is like he just had carbonite around him instead of all on him. I think they should have had it come out of his nose and fingers. It is like he was just in a metallic coffin. It really doesn't sale. I thought it was cool back when I was 5. But like your mockup, I would really like to see it gooier.