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#297431
Topic
Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Time
Originally posted by: darkhelmet
Well, it's slow-going with life and other projects in the mix, but a friend and I sat down with an Episode 3 script and went to work; he's got a head for story details and is great at continuity!

We cut out a bunch of stuff (Grievous will be gone as Kerr had said he was doing with his edit) and added some scenes back in (making Padme a stronger character).

Seeing that the story would actually work without Grievous (it was like getting a look at what Lucas had written before the addition of Grievous the story flows so well!), I got excited to begin my final anamorphic widescreen edit, and wrote a new title crawl with my friend's input.

Gone is "War!" or anything remotely cheesy like that. I referenced all of the GOUT crawls for similar language and tone. Hopefully everyone will like it, but there is a lot of story we had to write just in the crawl to plug up plot holes like why the fighting doesn't cease after Dooku is dead. Well, here it is; fire away!

Star Wars
Episode III
The Republic Lost

Despite staggering losses
to the ranks of both army
and Jedi, the indecisive
balance of the Clone Wars
has recently tipped in the
Republic’s favor.

In desperation, Separatist
leader Count Dooku has
risked his fleet and his
own capture to abduct the
Supreme Chancellor from
the capital planet.

Escape would destroy the
Republic’s resolve; capture
will doom the tenuous
Separatist coalition. In
pursuit, Jedis Kenobi and
Skywalker race to restore
peace to the galaxy….


Firing away, sir!

Darkhelmet, I'm glad to see you're cutting Grievous, but I'm intrigued by how the Separtists would stay together after Dooku's demise. Plus, how would the Utupau battle go? Oh well, I guess I'll have to just wait and see!

I see where you're going with your new crawl and what you're trying to set up, but in some regards I think it goes against the tone that most of the other crawls have. I took the plot points from yours and SOME wording from the official crawl, to come up with the following. I humbly offer it for your consideration:

Despite staggering losses
on both sides, the balance
of the Clone Wars has
begun to tip in favor of
the Republic.

In a desperate move to
destroy the Republic’s
resolve, Count Dooku has
swept into the Republic
capital and kidnapped the
Supreme Chancellor.

As the Separatists attempt
to flee with their hostage,
Obi-Wan Kenobi and
Anakin Skywalker race
to rescue the Chancellor
and deliver a decisive
blow to the tenuous
Separatist collation....

But if you don't like this, at least please use "Jedi Kights" instead of "Jedis". They are never referred to as "Jedis" in the movies.

Just my two cents.
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#297425
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
Time
Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
Luke shows almost no remorse when his best friend of who knows how many years dies, and there's not really a way a fanedit can get around that. In the final cut of the flick, Biggs is better left just another member of Red Squadron.


I would agree that Luke's reaction to Biggs' death leaves something to be desired. But if anyone can fix this, it's Adywan. Maybe by adding in some relevant cue, giving Luke several different "reaction shots" back to back, or having Luke "zone out" for a few moments while the battle continues on around him. Or maybe by stealing the "I can't believe he's gone" line from after Ben dies (the visual with Leia aboard the Falcon might be enough for that scene), so that Luke can utter the "new" line over the com-link (assuming Adywan can get the audio to match).

Making Biggs a completely background character would work too. At the least, you'd have to alter the dinner scene on Tatooine so that Biggs is not mentioned.

And Adywan, sorry I didn't mention this sooner, but good luck with quitting smking and the weight loss.

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#297362
Topic
Why the hell did the lazy Emperor even think Luke would join the dark side and become his new apprentice?!
Time
The real moron of ROTJ is Vader. In ESB, he wants Luke to join him and overthrow the Emperor. He's plotting and subversive. All of a sudden in ROTJ he doesn't want to pursue that any more. He's just going along with the motions and doing what the Emperor asks. To top it off, he knowingly delivers a replacement apprentice to the Emperor. All this because "the power of the Dark Side" compels him to obey. Um, okay.
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#297274
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
Time
Originally posted by: Owen-Lars-Kenobi
My take on the Biggs/Wedge thing is that the Biggs line should stay. The whole "darn wheres my old buddy, he should be here to help me!" thing works very well for me. This is mainly because I don't think Luke would be counting on wedge to save him, because he hardly knows Wedge. If they knew each other well I think the wedge line would be a good thing. But the Biggs/Luke relationship has a very "I've got your back ' feel to it, and thats the way I think it should be. It works with their implied back story too, and gives Biggs a slightly bigger part, which I feel gives the Biggs scene before they depart more use (I love that scene).


This all depends on whether the Biggs scene in the hangar is included. With the hangar scene, the audience knows who Biggs is and that he's there. So, Luke is wondering when his friend is going to save his butt.

Without the hangar scene, the audience hasn't met Biggs yet. Luke's line comes off as a slightly out-of-place "I wish Biggs were here" yearning. Then latter in the battle, we realize Biggs IS there, when Luke says they're "going in full throttle". Then the auidience gets to have a slight WTF moment, and the whole thing comes off as not feeling right.

So IMO, it all depends on the hangar scene. In the Special Edition, the Biggs line works. In the original version, the mono-mix Wedge line works.
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#295943
Topic
Starwars.com survey
Time
Originally posted by: Anchorhead
"An anamorphic version of Star Wars - unaltered from its 1977 release - will be the next thing I purchase from Lucasfilm."

I hope I made that clear enough for them.


Unfortunately, I don't think this was specific enough for them.

I know you wouldn't be happy if they made an anamorphic version based on the laserdisc master. Granted, that would be rediculously stupid, but it's possible, and definitely not below them.
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#293483
Topic
Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Time
To put it simply, the jump is too flashy and not at all in keeping with Dooku's style. Dooku is a classy, serene kind of villain, not a Darth Maul type.

If I may beat a dead horse here, I think adding in a backgroud sound of footsteps (slow, methodical footsetps) while the Jedi have their banter with Palpatine is the way to go. It will obviously convey that Dooku walked down the steps, while adding to the tension of the scene.

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#293411
Topic
The legendary &quot;Starkiller Ranch&quot; Thread
Time
CC, I enjoyed your ROTS edits. I agree with just about everything Musicman said. The ESB music for when the crane falls feels a little out of place. And Obi Wan does need a moment to "reach out" to Anakin in some way. The part where they slowly cross that narrow pipe (and the stupid droid flies by) is a great quiet moment, and would be a great place for some dialog. But I don't know how some dialog can be put there without some serious rotoscoping.

And BTW, great "Kick to the Head"!
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#293410
Topic
My Episode III Re-Edit (v 2007) (Completed)
Time
Goodmusician,

I enjoyed your edit of the Dooku scene, and your cuts are very unnoticable (which, as you've said, is a good thing). I did find that the re-ordering of the Palpatine dialog after the duel was a tad abrupt. The part with Palpatine's laugh was also a little rough, since he's not smiling in the long shot you cut to. If you want to tackle a little rotoscoping, adding a smile to the long shot might be possible.

Do you have any plans to change to battledroid voices?
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#292929
Topic
Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Time
I've been trying to keep up with everyone's clips, and I think I've seen them all with the exception of GoodMusician's last one. And GoodMusician, let me just say that your cuts have all flowed very nicely, except for some short cuts.

About Anakin dying in the lava waterfall, I think this is a good solution continuity-wise, and removes a lot of awkward moments later in the duel. But because of a few drawbacks, it just doesn't work for me:

- emotional impact: without any discussion between Anakin and Obi-Wan, the scene feels a little empty. Anakin is the main character of the PT (like it or not), and we deserve a little emotional payoff for his supposed death. Losing him over the falls feels abrupt.

- that pesky lightsaber: yes, this bothers me. Since a big deal is made out of the scene in ANH where Luke gets his father's saber, we should at least see how Obi Wan gets it. At least the immolation scene gives us that.

For my imaginary own edit of ROTS, here's what I would do:
The duel goes pretty much as normal (editing out the outrageous parts, of course, like GoodMusician did) until Anakin catches on fire. Obi Wan looks away as Anakin burns. He then turns around and picks up Anakin's saber. He then ignites the saber (hello rotoscoping) and looks like he will take a step toward Anakin, as if to finish him off. Just then, the sound of the Emperor's shuttle is heard, as its shadow flies across the ground. Obi Wan then turns off the saber and walks off. We then see the trailer shot of Padme's ship flying toward the camera, and this is followed by a shot (hello Adywan) of the ship going into hyperspace. Then Obi Wan talks to Padme, and walks toward the cockpit. The scene where the emperor comes to get Anakin can go here. Then we cut back to the ship, where Obi Wan sits in the cockpit with 3PO, with a rotoscoped hyperspace field in the window.