Erikstormtrooper

Judge said:

doubleofive said:

i think de-SEing ANH would be a hard task, as they weren't flat out new shots as they were adding things to existing shots, ruining them in the process. Same with RotJ, I would think.

Yeah, that's a good point. Shame.

I think it would be possible to pull off for ANH - it would just require an Adywan-magnitude of perseverance to pull off. Start by using Adywan's AVCHD of  ANH-SE. Pop in a few scenes from ANH-R (like officer's getting blasted in the chest, the stormtrooper road-check in Mos Eisley, etc.). Then for the rest use a stabilized GOUT. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been tried yet.

Ady, when you have time, I hope you can you share some of the challenges of this project. Like maybe what was nearly impossible, what was easier than you thought, if you used any obscure sources, etc. I love that kind of stuff.

hairy_hen said:

For Empire and Jedi, 70mm recreations aren't strictly possible, but the '93 and 5.1 soundtracks on the previous versions already sound great.  I've been considering doing small revisions on Empire, to substitute the hacked up music cues with how they are in the SE and add the missing snowspeeder sound, but those are only minor changes.  Jedi I believe I am quite satisfied with as it is.

Related question: What are the differences (if any) between the 85 and 93 mixes of ESB?

And can Puggo's super-8 capture of ESB be used as a source for any 70 mm sounds?

Awesome! Thanks, Adywan!

dark_jedi, hairy hen's 70mm mix would be great!

Happy Belated Birthday, Adywan!

Can you give us a hint on what you'll be popping in the Preservation forum? Is it ESB related?

(I have a guess that I'll keep to myself for now.)

SKot said:

The only way I could even grant the possibility of what you said is if Belgian TV somehow managed to illicitly broadcast a fan edit like Berndt Doetzer's Final Cut, which is an edit of the movie with bunches of extra material added in, some of it fabricated by the editor. 

 Speaking of which, was this Final Cut ever finished and released?

Aside from OT.com's rule on discussing custom DVDs, I can't see why the Editdroid team would lie about the source of this capture.

If there's a demand for just the OT discs, I'm sure someone will step in to fill it.

If the set costs $80, someone could pull out the OT discs and sell them for $60. Then they can turn around and sell the PT for $30. They've just made $10 dollars!

TV's Frink said:

Erikstormtrooper said:

It raises the bar for Lucasfilm. In order to be commercially attractive, their next offering of the OT will have to improve over this project.

I disagree.  What percentage of people who would buy a Star Wars DVD (outside of this forum) will ever see this or even hear about it?  Lucas will sell a ton of OT Blu-rays when they come out, no matter the source or quality.

I should clarify: I meant the next offering of the original versions of the OT. The GOUT will no longer cut it the next time around. We will get something like GOUT 2.0, with minor improvements and probably anamorphic.

Zombie,

Thanks for sharing the news on this. I can't wait to see it!

I think Moth3r's point about the DVD format not allowing 720p is valid. Is this really a DVD, or maybe an AVCHD?

zombie84 said:

I just thought everyone should know that after Lucasfilm outdid the LD preservations with the GOUT, Lucasfilm’s GOUT has now been outdone by a LD preservation. Fuck you, Lucasfilm!

Love the last sentence! And this may be the most important part of this project. It raises the bar for Lucasfilm. In order to be commercially attractive, their next offering of the OT will have to improve over this project. But knowing Lucasfilm, it will only be a slight improvement.

About 15 years ago I went on a few dates with a girl who was into the EU. It was interesting ... and weird. Reminds me of the Seinfeld quote: "All of a sudden it hit me, I realized what the problem is; I can't be with someone like me. I hate myself!"

My wife tolerates my Star Wars fanatacism. She doesn't sit down with me and watch the movies, but my 2 sons do. That's good enough for me. She's even asked me if I had any interest in joining the 501st or Rebel Legions.

However, she shot down my idea to display, in our entertainment unit above the TV, all 12 vintage action figues in the original display stand. Of all the nerdy things I could do, I though that was pretty classy.

That said, if she ever tries to put an Edward Cullen picture anywhere in the living room, I swear there's gonna be a fight.

Adywan, with a possible 2011 release date for the saga on Blu-Ray, do you have any plans to step up production on the AVCHDs of Jedi, Clones, & Sith?

I'd really love to get Jedi.

If the OT extras are considerable, I might consider buying the set. By considerable, I mean tons of deleted scenes or alternate takes that have never been seen before.

The 70mm mix of ESB has never been restored, right? That's one I'd love to have.

I know there were some snippets of it on Building Empire, but I think Jambe got them from an old 16mm version.

Sluggo said:

savmagoett said:

Sluggo said:

I'm wondering about the above still.  Is Luke outside or inside?  The set makes him look like he is walking inside of a hallway when he ought to be in an alley between buildings.

Now that you're pointing this out, there isn't any window frame or anything, it feels to me the corridor ends on some kind of terrace without real ending, but it doesn't mean it's outside, it could just be the open entrance of the building…

 That's what I'm saying.  It just looks odd to me.  I'm not suggesting a change or anything, I just wanted other peoples two cents on it.

Sluggo, now that you mention it, this does look odd. 

Here's a personal anecdote about the random falling object / Luke's hand / broken vane piece:

I was watching ESB with my 7 year-old son a few weeks ago. When the whatever-it-was fell down, my son was very confused. He asked what fell, and I didn't have a good answer for him. I told him it was Luke's jacket. I know it wasn't, but it always seemed to look like an empty jacket falling.

Granted, confusing a 7 year-old is not that hard, but this is a good example of how the unknown object somewhat ruins the impact of the scene. Half your brain is thinking "whoa, that's a long drop", and the other half of your brain is thinking "wtf was THAT?"

Some kind of brief shot of Luke knocking part of the vane off (with his hand, butt, etc.) would go a long way to fixing this.

My humble 2 cents.

I do not mock Lucas' name. I just think about that close-up shot of the alien uvula in Jabba's palace in the SE. That's enough for me.

Dark Jedi, do you need the g'kar versions?

EDIT: Nevermind. I see you already have them.

Darth Editous said:

Okay, can someone who's into schematics and stuff tell me, is the Death Star supposed to be a sphere, or an ovoid? In every shot it's about 10% off being a circle. Either way, I plan on making it perfectly spherical where I can.

DE

DE, the original Death Star model is definitely not a sphere. I've been following a thread over on the Replica Prop Forum, where this guy is building a full-size Death Star prop. It was definitely established that it's an ovoid.

Adywan, I've been away from the thread for a few days, and I just read about your mother's passing.

You and your family have my condolences and prayers.

Adywan, best wishes on your family.

Trooperman, has InfoDroid seen the rough cut? I'd love to hear his input.

One thing I've been thinking about a lot is Trooperman's excellent take on the lightsaber duel. One small problem is the way Anakin just vanishes when Yoda shows up, then he jumps out again when the tower starts to fall.  So I've been trying to think of a better way to make Anakin disappear.

(Pending the availablility and feasibility of shots,) maybe we can use the useless "darkness" part to our advantage:

After the power is cut and it goes dark, Anakin turns off his saber and disappears in the darkness. Dooku glances around for a moment and then the power comes back on. Then Yoda shows up, and we continue with it as Trooperman edited.

Possible?

Ady,

I'm getting closer on the Snowspeeder Pilot front. How are you going to "shoot" the additional footage?