EddieDean

This is all excellent, Joy. You have a great eye. What’s your editing background?

Wonderful! I can’t take credit for the structure of s01e09 and s01e10 - I stole it wholesale from Smudger9! But most of the rest of the restructuring is a combination of my ideas and those shared by the excellent collaborators in this thread. Gotta credit Smudger where it’s due though! 😉

You’re out of the weaker content now, so it should just get better and better from here on!

Season two subtitles have been added, thanks to g00b ❤️

Sounds excellent. Have you settled on what you’re keeping of BoBF (present day) and Mando season three?

Yeah, big points for bringing a new perspective to editing and adding to the discussion here Joy. And your micro-edits within scenes are very impressive too. You might enjoy reading Hal’s Rise of Skywalker Ascendant thread (https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ascendant-Released/id/71835), that one’s the most impressive project from the perspective of having so much collaboration on it.

They wouldn’t have complete narratives that way. The request there has always been for extended versions.

valaquen said:

EddieDean said:

Folks, not quite a promise as who knows how life goes, but it looks like I’ll have some time coming up soon to put a bit more work into this. Is there anything I’d previously promised, or anything else relevant to TCW, that you guys would like me to prioritise? (For example, minor fixes, extended versions of episodes, etc)

I was wondering if you managed any work on this? Your edits are top notch.

Unfortunately not - life’s got away from me again. I’m still interested to hear any priorities, and I record them all, but I don’t know when I’ll get back to this. I definitely consider the project open still, though.

Now’s a great time for anyone to give feedback on the current four episodes, especially around flow/narrative/time jumps/scene ordering. If anyone’s planning a rewatch of this before season two, collect your thoughts and drop them here and I might make some revisions in order to have the full nine movies in their best possible state once they’re all done.

Well, Lucasfilm have just announced that season two will be released with three episodes each week, which appears to completely confirm that it’ll effectively be four movie-length arcs each made of three episodes.

Time to get ready to edit it as such and complete this project!

You’re out of the woods - the first two plus Assassin are the weakest. Rest of the season is good to decent, and then it’s properly great. I’d be interested to know what you found interesting about the early discussion!

Really excellent! Easy subscribe. The thought processes are fascinating. Are you intending to release full movies, or if not, I’m sure this community would love access to your raw scene outputs!

Yeah, it’s one of those things I think where canon should be determined by cultural weight. We recognise Hayden’s Anakin more than Shaw, so despite the questions it raises, I’d always advocate for Hayden.

The tricky one is Padmé’s death. I can’t determine which has the strongest weight in the cultural hivemind - “I remember my mother” versus her dying onscreen in childbirth.

Not that I’m aware of, but I haven’t been looking out for it.

Hal 9000 said:

Had an idea for a small tweak, which I implemented in my editor. I swapped two R2-D2 sound effects during the scene where Luke meets Obi-Wan, so that he now responds to Obi-Wan saying he never owned a droid with a “sad beep.”

Love it!

Wow! Absolutely loved watching that, looks like super arduous work but it’s really coming together. It’s always great to see behind the scenes. I’d love to update my Clone Wars episode to include the Canon Project’s content when they’re done (fully credited of course) - do you think the team would be willing to permit that? I’d be eager to get in touch if so.

I remember! 😃 When I do this batch, I’ll pick that up too.

Very similarly to Andor, which I’ve also done this for, Arcane was released as arcs. Of the 18 episodes across two nine-episode seasons, you’ve got five three-episode arcs, followed by one kind of flashbacky standaloney one, then a duology. But I reckon there’s a nice little bit of polish there you could do to have them all balance out.

I wouldn’t cut a single piece of content - only reorder it for easier consumption.

The arcs are very solidly single units of story, with one minor exception:

1. Episodes 1-3 - The young siblings arc
2. Episodes 4-5 - The progress day bombing arc
3. Episodes 6-9 - The shimmer and civil war arc
4. Episodes 10-12 - The chem-barons arc
5. Episodes 13-15 - The Viktor’s sanctuary arc
6. Episode 16 (technically part of the final arc, but the Jayce stuff is set before the end of arc 5)
7. Episodes 17-18 - The Noxian war arc

So obviously for most of those they could be easily moviefied - keep the first instance of opening credits, make sure the closing credits cover all relevant content from the full three episodes, and the odd bit of smoothing round the episode breakpoints (light scene juggling if it helps).

As for episode 16, you’ve got two main plotlines: Ekko and Heimerdinger in the no-hextech universe in the past, and Jayce in the wild magic universe in the future. It would perhaps have been nice to split these out - having Ekko’s scenes saved for the finale where they’re most relevant, and Jayce’s scenes preceding his appearance at the end of episode 14. But there are some key points where, whilst not overlapping, these two episodes are quite tightly wound together by editing choices (with a few scenes in parallel tied to the same music choices). Even if they can’t be unpicked, having the scenes in Ekko’s world with Vander would nicely pair with arc 5’s reveal that the Singed’s beast is Vander.

That would make for a slightly longer movie 5, and a slightly shorter movie 6. However, the scenes of Mel in the Black Rose prison from arc 5 aren’t relevant to that arc, so could be moved to the beginning of arc 6. This is about seven minutes long, and the very final episode is also ten minutes longer than usual, so this would bring us closer to balance.

I don’t think we’d need to specifically force balanced viewing times, but potentially some of the end of arc 5 could be shifted into the beginning of arc 6 - you could end arc 5 on Jayce blasting Viktor, and open arc 6 with the fighting in the sanctuary, as the beginning of the Noxian war. There’s a nice breakpoint where Viktor’s been shot, the sanctuary residents start screaming, and then Ambessa gives the order to charge. Then you could open on the actual fight, which is covered by a Viktor voiceover, so could work as an opening. This wouldn’t be too different from how the ending of season one (Jynx firing the rocket at the Council chamber) transitions right into the start of season two (a montage of the damage and survivors). But balancing for time probably isn’t strictly necessary, and perhaps it’s best we see the fight and Isha killing Vander-beast in the episode which sets it up - though these two arcs are fairly back-to-back anyway.

Is there any interest in this?

+1

Hal 9000 said:

Toward the beginning of this project, I’d explored the possibility of replacing one word, and perhaps it can be done using AI.

That word is, “I’m [fixing] a droid, you wanna see? Come on, I’ll show you 3PO.”

EDIT: Also, there’s a line in Ep3 that would be good to replace as well. 3PO says, “I think I’m beginning to get the hang of this flying business,” in reference to lines from TPM and AOTC about him never having flown and fearing starships. Not sure what could go there instead; the scene doesn’t have any other dialogue.

Another EDIT:

I’m sure the tools are out there at this point for this to be possible with AI or whatever. I’d love to be able to simply snip out Qui-Gon’s final two words of “train him,” so that Obi-Wan’s actions show earnest initiative and fit what ROTJ gives us about taking it upon himself to train him because he feels he would do well with it.

That sounds good. What is the surrounding context for 3PO’s ‘flying’ line?

g00b has an excellent Rebels that keeps improving. I like Ahsoka as it is but there’s a few edits in the top couple of pages here. Haven’t seen much Batch.

And thank you!

That’s so good.

Definitely sounds like a good starter for ten, decent set of proposed changes. Good luck with the execution!

luissolano said:

CamSMurph said:

My preferred order at the moment is TFA: Starlight, TLJ: Rekindled and TROS: Ascendant (yours). That may change when Jar Jar Bricks and sherlockpotter release their versions, which will no doubt force me to choose between the two haha.

Is my prefered order too.

+1

That sounds extremely solid; well done! I’d love a link. I’m especially curious about your second movie - I think Cloak and Malevolence are both important to Ahsoka’s early journey. I’m interested to see how you handled Ryloth too, I did a lot of merging of plotlines there and really changed the narrative.

The only major elements that are notably missing from this, off the top of my head, are Zygerria, Umbara, Onderon, and the Order 66 arcs. Arguably Scipio too, but that’s weaker. Any thoughts on those?

Oh, and how did you handle the later Ahsoka-Mandalore content which also includes Lux Bonteri, without his introduction in the ‘Heroes on Both Sides’ arc?

If you’re curious to review some optional alternative approaches which could add value, I’ve got a few episodes that you might be interested in:

• My Ryloth arc, which intercuts Ahsoka in the air with Mace on the ground for a tighter plot.
• My Lair of Grievous/Massacre mix, which uses AI dialogue to frame the Lair of Grievous events as directed by Ventress for revenge against the Sith (rather than related directly to Cloak of Darkness), which then triggers the retaliatory massacre, giving her greater grief about her actions.
• My Corruption on Mandalore arc, which removes the poisoned kids plotline but reshapes the rest into a single Ahsoka-Padmé narrative.
• My Heroes on Both Sides arc, which removes the awful murder subplot and completely restructures the whole into a new narrative tht gives Padmé some real depth and a good bittersweet victory.

That’s three for that episode. I don’t intend to do any heavy editing for these extra episodes and extended versions, they’ll be more just wrapping them in the TCW:R trappings and giving them a single polish pass. But I’ll prioritise them.