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#1441969
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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So, having watched the latest Bad Batch episode, I’m super pleased that I produced my Tales of the Lost Clones anthology episode the way I did. I don’t think people should have to churn through the awful Droids in the Void episodes (88 minutes!) just to get context for Gregor.

I watched through most of my season 2 again last night with fresh eyes, and found a few more trims and tucks to make.

In terms of its structure and broader context, the way I’d like to theme this period of time is that in season one the Separatists made a lot of very tactical, surgical strikes to key locations, and the Republic fought back well to establish a foothold. At the end of season one, the Separatists fail to ally with the Mandalorians, and then the Republic, having established itself, draws back many troops to restrategise for what they now see will be a long war. As the Republic do this, the Separatists do the same, going relatively quiet as they expand out across the galaxy to resource-efficiently secure more resources. And due to all of this, the Scum and Villainy get bolder and begin to rise. The big reveal at the end of the season will be that the Geonosis factories are productive again.

I’m just not quite sure about the middle of the season’s ordering.

With slight reordering, season two then feels like:

  1. SEVEN WARRIORS (was ‘Bounty Hunters’) - (Re)introduces our big three, with the abandoned Felucia plot letting us contextualise that ‘breathing period’ and the introduction of Hondo. It also gives us the first hint at uprisings which will eventually form the Rebellion, and lets us see the oppression of the ‘little guy’.
  2. MASSACRE - (Re)introduces our main villains, and shows one of the reasons they’ve withdrawn from the forefront of the war: The new Dathomir wildcards, which they swiftly remove from play. But it is light on main characters.
  3. CORRUPTION ON MANDALORE - Gives us a bit more early Ahsoka and Padmé, and leaving Padmé on the planet implicitly keeps it in focus for longer until her return in the finale. Shows the longer-term Republic investment in keeping Mandalore neutral (i.e. not aligned with the Separatists).
  4. TALES OF THE CLONE WARS - Is light on main characters too, but has a little Anakin and Obi-Wan in the one episode to balance out the previous episode a bit better. Isn’t necessarily set at this point in time (except maybe the Christophsis bit, another long term reinvestment by the Republic), but highlights more key clones and especially Rex.
  5. SINS OF THE FATHER (Boba Fett trilogy) - Again shows a Republic at relative calm, as it’s letting the clone youths tour the capital ships. Having Anakin (early) and Ahsoka (later) in this episode balances a bit better with Monsters, which features Obi-Wan. Though I can’t pretend these two episodes are simultaneous as Mace is in both. I think this also works better a little later as it also features Hondo, like the premiere.
  6. MONSTERS - Puts Maul on the board, and closes out the Nightsisters/Ventress plotline for now. So by now, we’ve had this period of essentially a lot of chess moves on both sides, but no major conflict. Leading us to-
  7. (8,9) GEONOSIS TRILOGY - Brings all the main characters together to show that - oh shit - the Separatists have been churning out way more droids all this time. Good growth and highlights for all of our main characters.

The only weakness of this ordering that I can see is that maybe it gives us a slightly too mature Ahsoka by giving her the Corruption episode before she gets that extra Plo Koon ‘slow down’ lesson in the Boba Fett episode.

In addition, I was thinking about potentially putting a little of Savage’s hunt for Maul (originally chopped out of the episode where he finds Maul) into the Massacre episode - though I’m not sure if that’s actually added value. I might also do something with the moment where Anakin and Ahsoka sit in the diner and go “I’ve got a feeling that a familiar enemy is on the loose”. That could go anywhere and give an episode a bit more A&A flavour.

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#1441840
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Again not so interesting, but I’ve finally worked out the modern standards for transitions that SW uses, and it turns out I was way off, so fixing this in all episodes should give us that much more of a natural experience.

For linear wipes, T-B takes 11 frames, diagonal takes 12 frames, and L-R takes 13 frames. I’d been using 24 frames (a full second), so I’ll get a bit of flexibility back too by fixing that. I’d also been using 50% feathering, whereas SW only uses 10%.

For wipes which break up the screen more quickly, like a split radial wipe or blinds wipe, it can be as short as 10 frames and only 3% feathering.

And for irises, which I’ve realised are WAY less common than I’d thought, they’re around 13 seconds and 50% feathering, though the timing is more variable.

A boring job, but it’s all value in the end…

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#1441828
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Hah, just noticed a nice thing I can do. I’ve flipped the ordering of some Hondo episodes, meaning that his base is destroyed now BEFORE it’s ransacked (offscreen) by Grievous. But I just realised that in my ordering, the last time we see Hondo’s base is in the episode where Ventress and the Slave-1 crash out of frame in an explosion.

Putting two and two together, Slave-1 crashed into Hondo’s base. Neat!

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#1441770
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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I know this isn’t particularly interesting but I’ve just refined and finalised the community credits, trying to edge them that much closer to the style used for the majority of TCW, and I’ve gone through all of the pages of this thread to date to try to make sure that all of my major contributors (that’s you guys! ❤️) here have been named.

Just the credits and wipes to rethink now, before I can return to true editing, or at least the polish of real content.

I know this is all quite a slow pace now, following from a break too, but to my mind this is a really useful period of reflection and rethinking. It’s the deep breath before the crescendo of momentum that’ll polish the first three seasons and carry us into the final two.

I was thinking I might rethink my Christophsis from scratch, just in case. At the very least, I think there’s something I can do with reordering to have the Republic talk about how they’ve lost contact and to send down Ahsoka, only THEN cutting to Anakin and Obi-Wan on bikes heading to Ventress, to heighten the tension. This would also have the advantage of beginning the Ahsoka introduction episode on her actual introduction. I might trim some of the earlier battle prep too (my fancy scene where I used Bail audio) to both entirely cut Bail, and to get us into the meat a lot quicker. This episode might end up very short, but that’s totally OK, and I think the more coherent and inoffensive it can be, the better.

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#1441715
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Hal 9000 said:

EddieDean said:

Here’s a preview of TCW:R’s new franchise logos

lol, very nice. Was that a DHMIS reference?

Not consciously! I thought I’d throw in a little Monty Python for you all though.

Knight of Kalee said:

As a nice side effect it also holds up better with canon, namely having Katuunko alive for the Ryloth arc.

Yeah, I’m suprised I previously forced myself into the wrong order for that. Some distance has allowed me to ‘reset’ some opinions here, and see my work afresh.

Also I’m so glad to see you’re willing to take retroactive feedback from The Bad Batch to further tighten your cut!

Absolutely! This was always the plan, to tweak if things changed. I still don’t think we need to lean too heavily into the second Ryloth episode, so Cham vs Orn Free Taa will remain a Continuity Cut episode rather than Quality cut, but I’ll produce that sooner rather than later, for the sake of the completionists.

CMMAP said:

EddieDean said:

Here’s a preview of TCW:R’s new franchise logos, borrowing content from both Mandalorian and Bad Batch.

I prioritised elements of TCW, then the prequel era, then the wider impact of TCW, and finally the wider Filoniverse.

I thought it was a nice touch to end on Vader.

You´d had me at “…utter bull****” 😄

Haha, I’ve been meaning to do a stupid opening text for a while, this was a better opportunity than putting it in a proper episode that people will download. Wish I hadn’t buggered up the fade on the second line though, that could have made this dumb joke land a little better.

Nice order for the franchise logo and vader as the end - just perfect.

Super, glad that seems to be the consensus. The two franchise logos are actually quite different, I found - not just the resolution, but the Mandalorian one is heavily cropped, so I had to crop the Bad Batch one to match. They’re not even perfectly timed to each other or the music, so I found I had some leeway.

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#1441301
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No-Palpatine Rise of Skywalker Radical Brainstorming Thread
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If we obscured Palpatine’s face and dubbed him, we could dub him with a woman’s voice just to particularly distinguish the character from any of the known leading Sith.

The problem with this approach either way though is that you have the essentially less well explored Snoke followed by the essentially less well explored Overseer, putting a lot of weight on the idea of Kylo as the primary defeatable antagonist.

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#1440914
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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And I dunno, just for the sake of sharing it (in case it generates any ideas), here are my current list of jobs before I kick off polishing each episode:

  • Update community credits list and style (or at least size on the page)
  • Create new franchise title combining Mandalorian and Bad Batch
  • Experiment with different credits timing - maybe just so the second image hits the main beat of DRAMA in the music
  • Work out exact credits timing - I was doing this backwards from the ending for each episode rather than consistently for all of them, which never quite satisfied, though it is very minor
  • Work out exact wipe timing - my wipes are based on a very early TCW wipe, and they changed the standard a little later. I’m going to have mine match the modern (and even Bad Batch) timing perfectly instead
  • Rethink season one ordering - pretty much done
  • Rethink remaining ordering - unlikely to change but I’ll give it a review just in case
  • Rethink episode titles
  • Rethink the seasonal ‘first line’ in my opening texts, to better highlight the themes
  • Re-rethink including good cut content (like putting those Ahsoka schooling scenes into the first Mandalore episode)

Then for absolutely every episode, on top of the specific fixes I’ve listed from all of your unactioned feedback to date, I’ve got to:

  • Replace the franchise title with my new one
  • Review the intro text, accounting for the new ordering
  • Rethink the episode title
  • Replace the end credits timing with whatever I come up with
  • Replace my own credit as EDDIE DEAN (I’m better known in fanediting by this name)
  • Replace the community credit with the new slide
  • Review and update all wipe transitions
  • Review all music transitions via outputting the sound on my TV, to better test it all

So this phase of the project will probably take a while, but (1) seasons four and five will be far more light touch, and (2) it should result in final-final versions of those episodes.

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#1440911
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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DrVibble said:

I’d love a PM of your progress so far! It would be great to get a sense of the series’ new general style.

Also I just realised you’re using music by Samuel Kim!! I love his stuff! All the more reason to watch.

PM sent. Yeah, I love Samuel Kim too, I’m using him in a couple of places, and McFibb from these forums did a few additional arrangements for me.

I would have loved to use Samuel Kim’s ‘Clone Theme (sad)’ for my credits but ultimately it just didn’t hit quite right, though I’ve been thinking about using it to back a trailer if I produce one.

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#1440907
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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A couple of overflow points from the current discussion:

  • Since the Bad Batch has recently explored Cham Syndulla (and Orn Free Taa a little), I’m going to review the other Ryloth episodes from TCW which I haven’t included in my own edit. (As a reminder, my ‘Quality Cut’ is what I consider the core main version of my TCW:R, but I’m also producing extended ‘Continuity’ and ‘Complete’ cuts for those who want a bit more content which might be lesser quality.) There’s one episode in particular which shows a little tension between Cham and Orn, and continues to highlight Cham’s resistance, so I might produce a simple cut of it soon just for the completionists. I don’t think that episode will be considered part of my Quality cut still (because I don’t think it’s likely to be VITAL to the enjoyment of the Clone Wars and surrounding franchise), but perhaps it will be worthy of the Continuity cut - for those who want the most ‘connective tissue’.
    ** Interestingly, Orn Free Taa actually appears twice already in my season one - firstly as a guest of Satine on the Coronet as she returns to Coruscant, and secondly in Palpatine’s office during the hostage crisis. Both appearances are speaking roles. If a viewer were to watch ‘Ryloth 2’ during this season, they’d get a little extra value there.
  • If I rename ‘Cloak of Darkness’ to ‘Assassin’, then that leaves me needing a new name for the existing Complete Cut (least important) episode already called ‘Assassin’, which I’ve already butchered for parts but plan to butcher further. The replacement name isn’t super important since it’s not an important episode, but perhaps for simplicity I’d call it ‘Visions’. Unless anyone can think of anything better.
  • The above proposals feel like they give us a nice tight coherent season as an introduction to the series. They contain my show’s worst episodes, but I think they’re far less awful than in the original presentation, and you get everything that’s important to launch you into the series. They give you almost all of the elements from the prequels, and in many ways do them justice, before putting them to bed as the clone wars expand in ideas in the later seasons.
  • However, the next few seasons can’t flow quite as nicely as this plan - though they don’t really have to. The theme of the second season is absolutely ‘opportunists/bounty hunters/scum and villainy’ as we highlight the chaos of the spreading war. Though there’s far less of a throughline. I might gently remind the viewer that we’re not seeing the Separatists much at all, with the ‘big reveal’ at the end of the season being those huge extra droid factories. The third season becomes ‘shades of grey’, as the complexities emerge, but again with less of a throughline, though it does give us Lux Bonteri. Either way, from season two onwards, the episodes are far stronger.
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#1440902
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Right, so I finished rewatching my season one bearing in mind Imhotep’s suggested order and mindset last night.

He emphasised using Duchess of Mandalore as the episode where they all ‘regroup on Coruscant’, which on review I think doesn’t quite give us a punctual enough moment to make it worthy of bringing forward just for that. However, using Duchess to return them to Coruscant does work - but I feel it belongs a little later.

My main change to Imhotep’s idea and my own original ordering is that I think I don’t quite need to force Maul’s plotline (starting in Nightsisters) to be the ABSOLUTE earliest possible, so after The 501st Legion (my Domino Squad arc) I’m going to play the Ryloth episode then Nightsisters.

This gives us a better pacing of Ahsoka, and also implies that her schooling and the events with Luminara and Ventress has now earned her her first battle command. Ryloth’s space battle is also smaller and slightly lower stakes than the Sullust shipyards seen at the start of Nightsisters.

This also works nicely from the villains angle. Grievous and Ventress are involved in the attack on Kamino in The 501st, then it’s a good strategic move for the Wat Tambor / Neimoidian fleet to also be attacking the strategic/political target of Ryloth almost at the same time, or just after. There’s a real sense now that Dooku’s pulling the strings, and using all of the Separatists to attack as many targets as possible, to keep the Republic off balance. (I’ll also, in the crawl, emphasise Ryloth’s ‘refineries’, since we see an ‘Imperial Refinery’ as a strategic location on Ryloth in the Bad Batch.) Then, there’s enough time for Ventress to regroup before her appearance at Sullust.

The other benefit of this ordering is that King Katuunko is now killed in the right order. Previously, I had to fuck about with having Katuunko die in Nightsisters, then Bail Organa in the Ryloth episode have to deal with random Toydarians. Now, Katuunko provides his aid to the Ryloth crisis, and as soon as Dooku’s tested Savage he sends him off for revenge and to remove that tactical threat. This means I’ll be able to use more of the original Bail-Katuunko scenes, which smooths over Ryloth, and also takes off some pressure from Christophsis.

During Nightsisters I might mention that as Obi and Anakin join the Sullust crisis, Ahsoka’s off with either Luminara or Plo Koon establishing a small defensive force on Felucia, to pay off in our next episode.

After those two episodes, we’ll drop into Duchess of Mandalore (NOW bringing them all home, but with the inclusion of the Felucia escape from my Holocron episode, as per my previous post). Then they’re all back in Coruscant properly as the Republic now rethinks things after that initial phase of the war, and Ahsoka’s being disciplined. Then we get the Holocron crisis, which I think will feel a lot better paced without the Felucia content as that episode’s main plot only really got started halfway into the episode previously.

So now then, the seasonal ordering would be:

  1. THE NEW PADAWAN - (Re)introduces Ventress, introduces Ahsoka. Separatist target is the crystalline ray shield factories of Christophsis. Ahsoka mentions an “emergency”.
  2. MALEVOLENCE - (Re)introduces Grievous, gives Ahsoka’s Plo Koon background, gives us a taste of caring about clones. Separatist target is wounded clones and clone medical facilities. (This is the “emergency” mentioned last episode.)
  3. THE DEATH WATCH (from the first two Satine/Mandalore episodes on Concordia and the Coronet) - Introduces Satine, focuses on Obi-Wan, puts Ahsoka in school, hints at Anakin’s darkness, and kicks off the Mandalore subplot. Separatist target is alliance with Mandalorians, postponed as Mandalorians are kicked off Concordia, but leaving the threat of Mandalorians hanging over the season. In the crawl, explain that the Republic are how hunting for Grievous. [I think I want to rename this to THE DUCHESS OF MANDALORE even though that’s an existing episode name, since she’s really the core of the episode, and it implies a very different Mandalore to the one you know from other media.]
  4. CLOAK OF DARKNESS - Faces Ahsoka alone against Ventress. Separatist target is to stop Gunray from revealing Grievous’ location/plans. In the crawl, explain that Anakin and Obi-Wan are now spearheading that effort. [I might rename this episode to ASSASSIN, to emphasise the Ventress angle.]
  5. THE 501st LEGION - Introduces the key clones, and pits Anakin and Obi-Wan against Grievous and Ventress after their large introductions. This is now the first episode where Ahsoka doesn’t appear at all (it’s too dangerous for her and/or she’s busy wrapping up her last episode), but we’ll go Ahsoka-heavy in the episodes before and after this one. Separatist target is Kamino, enhanced by milking the hunt for Grievous a little in the prior episodes.
  6. THE BLOCKADE OF RYLOTH - Gives Ahsoka’s first failiure at a cost of many lives. Bail Organa and Cham Syndulla appear, and Katuunko helps the Twi’leks. Separatist target is the refineries (and people) of Ryloth, enhanced by this attack coming immediately after the Kamino one.
  7. CHILDREN OF NIGHT - Explores Ventress more, introduces Dathomir, kicks off the Maul subplot, and gets more Sithy. Separatist target is the shipyards at Sullust, and later revenge against Katuunko. In the crawl, explain that Ahsoka’s with the 501st establishing a force on Felucia.
  8. DUCHESS OF MANDALORE (from the third Satine/Mandalore episode originally called Duchess of Mandalore) - (Re)introduces Padmé, gives more Obi-Wan/Satine, and gives Ahsoka’s second failiure at a cost of being formally disciplined. Separatist target is Felucia and mainly the alliance with the Mandalorians again, which properly fails this time, closing the potential threat of a Separatist/Mandalorian alliance but keeping the Mandalorians on the board. [I might rename this episode to THE DEATH WATCH, to keep that name as a title in play, and since we now know who the Death Watch are so we can anticipate their return.]
  9. A STRIKE AT THE HEART (pt1) introduces Cad Bane, and brings all our main characters together. Separatist - no, SITH - target is the Holocron/Children, via a distraction and competent bounty hunters.
  10. A STRIKE AT THE HEART (pt2) has all our main characters chasing Bane, with some bonus Mace Windu and showing how much Ahsoka’s come to mean to Anakin. It gives us Ahsoka’s patience, her moderating influence on Anakin, hints at Ahsoka’s future direction as a wise teacher, and gives us the first chronological hint at Sidious’ multi-generational plan for an army of force-sensitive agents and other forcey plots. [I might rename this episode to THE FUTURE OF THE FORCE. (1) The kids are the future of the force, (2) Ahsoka training the next generation is the future of the force (see Mandalorian), and (3) Sidious fucking about with force sensitive DNA is the future of the force (see TROS).]
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#1440897
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Welcome DrV! I’ve produced the first three (of five) seasons covering ~30 (of ~50) episodes already, if you’d like to check any of that out now. But currently I’m doing that polish pass that’s being discussed in these last few posts before returning to season four. It’s unlikely I’ll tighten up seasons two and three in the same way as I’m currently looking at season one (because there are simply fewer options), but it’s season one that needs it most. Still, you could watch S1 now in its current state if you wanted to get your teeth in. It’s complete for a v1, I’m just working on a v2.

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#1440774
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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The other thing I’m considering is actually taking the start of my Holocron episode and putting it at the start of my Duchess of Mandalore episode.

Holcron currently starts with the Republic abandoning Felucia and Ahsoka fucking that up, leaving her to be told off by the Jedi council and being put on Holocron guard duty.

Putting that at the start of the episode where the Death Watch attack Satine on Coruscant achieves a few things:

  • It gives the Mando episode a bit more Anakin and Ahsoka, again maintaining their presence throughout the season.
  • It puts a nice chunk of action up front in the Mando episode (and the Holocron episode doesn’t need more action).
  • It gives a good reason to drag the main party back to Coruscant, where they stay until the Holocron heist in the following episode, allowing Obi-Wan and Anakin to both steal away to spend time with their love interests.
  • But most importantly, it sets up Ahsoka as being punished by guard duty an episode early, making her punishment (and Mace Windu’s line of “longer [guard duty] now”) feel a bit more meaty, and making the holocron heist more of a suprise than the convenient assignment of Ahsoka there in that episode.
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#1440773
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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With that same intention of making the first season as smooth as possible, I’m going to add two scenes from Assassin into our now episode three, the first Mandalore episode.

In the crawl, I’ll explain that as the Republic begins the hunt for Grievous, Anakin’s escorted Ahsoka back to Coruscant to begin her studies as Obi-Wan’s come to Mandalore.

Then, probably at the first time skip (when Obi-Wan and Satine travel to Concordia) I’ll show Ahsoka studying in the temple, being a bit bored and sleepy.

Then, after Obi-Wan and Satine defeat Pre Viszla and before they return from Concordia, I’ll show Ahsoka asking to come with Anakin, but him telling her to focus on her studies.

This gives us a few benefits:

  • Firstly and mainly, that we now understand that Ahsoka might not be invited on every mission, explaining some of her later absences.
  • Secondly, a bit of bonus Ahsoka to make this episode’s new placement a bit less of a black sheep, and to keep her presence felt early.
  • Thirdly, it’s good to actually see and understand that as a junior padawan she does still have school, she’s not just a kid Jedi.
  • Fourthly, a nice bonus: In the new dialogue, she tells Anakin she’d like to come with him so she has his back. Anakin’s main action here is that he kills the Mandalorian traitor in cold blood - perhaps with Ahsoka by his side things might have gone differently? It’s a nice hint at how he’ll behave in future without her moderating influence.
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#1440710
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Well, I didn’t expect to have a larger update for you guys today, but it turns out that I do. I’ve just rewatched the first five episodes again, in the order (and mindset) suggested by Imhotep, and I’m definitely going to adopt that approach. I’ve already got two pages of notes on how to make it work.

Essentially, Imhotep suggested ‘focus on the villains’ and to let them link the first few episodes. That ultimately emerges as making Grievous a more present and credible military threat, with Ventress as a competent specialist and fighter. Therefore, we now have:

  1. Christophsis, (re)establishing Ventress as an assassin/enforcer for Dooku, and introducing Ahsoka
  2. Malevolence, establishing Grievous as a strategic commander with no morality, and developing Ahsoka more. In this episode’s crawl, I’d use the wording of “emergency”, allowing Grievous’ attack to implicitly be the emergency that Ahsoka was sent to Christophsis to tell Anakin about in that episode, retroactively allowing him to overshadow that episode too, and filling in that gap.
  3. Mandalore 1, pulling Obi-Wan (and later Anakin) into the Mandalore plotline. I’d rename this ‘The Duchess of Mandalore’ (instead of Death Watch) because that implies an interesting change to what we know of Mandalore, and encourage us to focus on the relationship angle. In this episode’s crawl, I’ll mention that Anakin and Ahsoka are pursuing the fleeing Grievous after the destruction of his flagship, emphasising his threat.
  4. Cloak of Darkness, dealing with Ahsoka alone on the sidelines of the Grievous pursuit as Anakin and Obi-Wan get distracted by Mandalore. I’ll change the crawl to state that in pursuit of Grievous, the Republic have captured Nute Gunray, who they plan to interrogate specifically for the location of Grievous. This fits nicely with their behaviour. I’ll also make it clear that Luminara is covering for Anakin in his absence. Here Ventress is now being deployed specifically to protect Grievous (and his strategies) at the behest of Dooku, emphasising both of their strengths.
  5. The 501st Legion, focusing on our core clones and culminating in both Grievous and Ventress attacking Kamino, for some big drama where all the threat is clear.

This way, these five episodes focus on the threat of Grievous as a droid general and Ventress as an assassin, with the less focused episodes still contributing to that arc. It’s not super tight, but it’s not much looser than this season of Bad Batch. The downside of this coherency is that it now puts my two worst episodes first, but I think I’m just going to make the disclaimer more prominent…

As I say, I have notes for the improvement of all of these episodes too.

I also watched the episode normally titled ‘Duchess of Mandalore’ (where the Death Watch attack Satine on Coruscant, which I might rename to ‘The Death Watch’ or ‘Revenge of the Death Watch’ [yes, I know I’m essentially flipping the two episode names]), which I have as 108 but Imhotep suggested as 106 “to have the main cast regroup”. This one only shows Obi-Wan and Padmé (and a little Anakin) though, so I might give the Kamino attack a bit more time to breathe by keeping it a little later.

That said though, as per my previous post, I’d like to show Ahsoka returning to her studies in one of these episodes, which could be that episode. It could also be the 501st, to explain why Ahsoka’s not in that one during all the big drama. We shall see.

In terms of thoughts beyond the restructuring, I feel like distance has given me some new perspective (and these are on top of all of the existing feedback, all of which is going to be processed):

  • I don’t think Bail in Christophsis adds anything, so I’ll take him out
  • I’ll streamline the start of Christophsis a little, to make the orbital/separatist/comms situation a bit more straightforward
  • I can streamline a little of Malevolence to make it a bit better paced and give it a bit of time to breathe
  • I have a few cuts to tighten and smooth both Malevolence and Cloak of Darkness
  • I’ve spotted a few bits of polish in audio and transitions I can give to 501st

Whee!

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#1440678
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Absolutely. No big update today since I’m still crunching through all of the feedback here, but I’m going to start a rewatch of season one based on Imhotep’s great ideas about how it could flow. It feels like his suggestion could make the first season feel much more deliberate and cohesive, and I’ve got some ideas for how I could amend some of the crawls to enhance that further.

For a while I’ve been wanting to get the scenes of Ahsoka training in the Jedi temple while the others are busy fairly early in this season, and this watch will help me nail which of a few options I should follow.

I’m already getting excited about getting started on Season One v2.0!

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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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CMMAP said:

Welcome back Eddie, hope you’d had a good time. Finally the polishing is starting 😉

Thanks buddy! It’s like settling into a warm bath, all that lovely Star Wars is being loaded back into my brain. I’ve already had a couple of new ideas I think will help near the start of the show, so I might post up on them in a few hours once I’ve written up my changelog document.