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- #1337545
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- Worst Edit Ideas
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Sounds interesting. But then again, this isn’t the place for GOOD ideas.
Sounds interesting. But then again, this isn’t the place for GOOD ideas.
I remember randomly putting Immigrant Song in the middle of my tragic 7-1 3.5hr Vader edit. It comes out of nowhere. Not sure why I did it.
Wait, what do you mean by 7-1?
Hal, I remember you or someone else here thought of changing the music that plays over the ending Rey Skywalker/Binary Sunset scene, as to avoid repeating the Force theme across three movies. Have you though of putting some version of Rey’s theme instead? I believe it might be the most fitting, because it reaffirms Rey’s identity above all else, and is very much the central musical theme of the sequel trilogy. I personally like this track (originally from TFA end credits): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJpmMwrabo.
Not the full theme, but some snippets of it, like that transition between the Force and Rey’s motifs. If you plan to end the scene with a fade to black, maybe the peaceful version of the SW main theme that plays at the end of the track could could fit better instead of a more bombastic piece, as it has much of a “final farewell” feel to it.
I had the opposite idea: I rearranged tRoS’ final scene to better fit the music, and put Rey’s line at the very end, as if it’s what the music was building towards:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10HInO4Ox36-rbOv2ef1WAfN7Uxfw77mi/view?usp=sharing
Kinda makes me think of how for my own original project, I include a different song I like as the end credits theme to each episode while avoiding using the same one twice. I also include some within the episode sometimes, like that time the villain fatally stabs a main character while singing Last Surprise. You’ll never see it comiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
Like putting Weird Al’s “I think I’m a Clone Now” at the end of Attack of the Clones?
Why hack when their security is probably the thinnest it’ll ever be due to quarantine?
For legal purposes, that’s a joke.
I actually had a personal edit of Attack of the Clones I was working on that was scored with music from Spider-Man 2, (because Spider-Man 2 is the best movie ever made) and that included songs from Train, Yellowcard, and Dashboard Confessional lmao.
don’t ask me why i did that bc i genuinely couldnt tell you
Reminds me of the time I tried to set each of the action scenes in the Phantom Menace to a different pop(ish) song (in the vein of Guardians of the Galaxy) but for some reason I only used Daft Punk.
So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophecised Dyad, to inherit the throne. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along and plans to kill him together with Rey.
In the words of <Lady sitting next to Hux at that one meeting>, I like it.
Link to my cut of Rey vs the Serpent. Here she does not heal the serpent, instead it senses her dark power and retreats. Notice what happens to her hand: https://youtu.be/vMhEcoMmX28
EDITED POST:
And here’s a rough cut of Rey on Tatooine to show that the scene can work without any force ghosts:
https://youtu.be/2s11aO49bHM
I like it, but you would probably need to flip the last two shots. When she looks at the suns (formerly ghosts) the first time, she’s looking screen left, but in the shot of her walking towards the sunset she’s moving screen right anyway.
I thought Palpatine’s first name was Cos.
What made you think that?
It’s interesting how John Williams’ style is so melodic than any excerpt can become a motif if you just have it repeat.
You could write a book about the wasted potential of Hux’s character.
What are Star Wars Books if not “all the things you could’ve seen in the movies but didn’t?”
What does that mean
Can I get a link to V1, please?
This is a half-joking idea, but if we wanted to reveal that Palpatine had a surprise grandchild, wouldn’t it be funny if it was actually Hux?
In the films themselves, it’s never really explained why such a young officer like Hux has so much authority within the First Order, even over older, more experienced officers. The films don’t really paint the picture of a young, brilliant officer who works up the ranks through his cleverness and ingenuity. Hux is portrayed as someone who is rather arrogant in his abilities, despite his moments of incompetence. In the books, it is explained that his father was a high ranking officer in the First Order, and he basically was given his position through inheritance. You could keep this idea, but it turns out his inheritance is actually a lot more significant than we thought.
You could keep Hux alive until the final battle, and have him speak to Palpatine instead of Pryde during the hologram scene, and Palpatine could even call him his “grandchild”. Yes, Hux isn’t Force-senstive, but neither was his actual son (or clone son) in canon, apparently. Also, young Palpatine was always depicted as having red hair, so Hux already fits the physical description as his potential grandchild. And if it was revealed that Hux was the heir to the Empire, it would add another layer to why Hux is so desperate to depose Kylo Ren and take over the First Order himself. He feels like it his birthright.
That’s… surprisingly really compelling. But where would you get the footage? To my knowledge, there’s only been one deleted scene with Hux released, and it’s the one where he taunts Rose.
I was thinking about if some creative audio splicing could have Palpatine say “I made Rey” rather than Snoke and just leave it at that. The Rey/Palpatine connection is still pretty trite but at least it sounds more like a thing he would do and could remain somewhat cryptic, Rey as his literal granddaughter is just too dumb.
Well, officially his son wasn’t actually his son, but his clone. Not sure how that could be made clear with audio splicing, though.
How can I upload an image here?
I usually upload an image to imgur.com, then use this format:
Exclamation mark. Open bracket. Image name. Close bracket. Open parenthesis. Image URL. Close parenthesis.About your tests. They look really nice! I don’t think this is a big issue, but I wonder if in this case it might be more fitting to use the Yoda from TLJ, since that is how we saw him in the previous movie, rather than how he looked in the OT.
Also, are you motion tracking the ghosts with the movement of the shot? It’s hard to tell but they feel a little floaty.
Well, they are ghosts.
Hi, Snooker! I know you’re probably busy, but you’re one of the only fan editors I know who could possibly make this idea I had come to fruition:
A lot of people have been searching for ways to extend the intro on Mustafar. While there have been a lot of ideas for landscape shots, I haven’t heard anyone suggest a way to actually show Kylo Ren arriving to battle. But then I remembered - the Force Awakens’ famous trailer shot of Kylo igniting his lightsaber never actually made it into the movie, so it could be used here without clearly being reused footage.
All it shows us is that he’s in the forest and that he’s preparing for battle, and with some regrading and light adjustment I was able to make it (almost) match the rest of the shots in the scene. The problem is, I wanted to give the fight more of a sense of continuity, and the rest of the scene, though it still takes place in what looks enough like the same forest, shows blaster fire and stormtroopers in the background.
So what I’m asking is if you could take that Crossguard-Lightsaber reveal shot from TFA’s first teaser trailer, and add some mustafarians in the distance, or blaster fire going by, or the shadow of stormtroopers behind Kylo - whatever’s easiest/possible - to make the shot fit better.
Help me, Snooker, you’re my only hope.
Unless you know someone else who can do it, in which case, they’re my only hope.
Or if it’s just impossible, in which case tell me and I’ll go ahead and just use my recolored version.
I would maybe change “kill the girl” to something along the lines of “the girl is the only one standing in your way” to communicate that Palpatine doesn’t want Rey dead as much as he wants to make Kylo THINK that he’s got a chance of becoming Emperor himself. I don’t know if that makes sense, it took way too long for me to put into words. Basically, I’m saying that leaving the line vague might make it clearer to the audience that Palpatine’s doing another 4D chess reverse psychology plot.
Why can’t the link be posted publicly?
And can I also have a link?
On an unrelated note, I continued recoloring the finale.
I was wondering how one could add a visual component to the “Voices of Jedi Past” sequence, and so I thought that - since I was already playing around with the colors - I could try making it so that the light shining on Rey matches the lightsaber color of whichever Jedi is speaking currently. I also made a few other changes in honor of Carrie Fisher.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jmfUDWb-i4rh0Z3LJu8ogYO0cOfn5iC4/view?usp=sharing
To be fair, Endgame already was kind of imitating Return of the King. Plus in this case it would be more metaphorical. Although I also like General Kenobi’s idea.
Perhaps one of you very creative fans could help me. I’m nearing completion of my rough cut of a more radical edit that removes Palpatine entirely. I feel that having Palps survive RotJ is on the worst things you can do in Star Wars. Kylo is searching for a lost Imperial/Sith fleet. The duel on the Death Star remains now occurs simultaneously with the fleet battle at Exegol.
The two main problems are 1) Finn and Poe basically abandon Rey on Kef Bir once she takes the skimmer in order to get them back to Ajan Kloss for the Exegol battle. 2) Rey is still looking for the wayfinder among the DS ruins after the fleet has already made it to Exegol. If anyone has any creative fixes, I’d love to hear them. Otherwise I think this version is working well, although it’s cut down to about ninety minutes.
Maybe you could cut Hux’s death (or save it for later), and have him be the one to send the signal that leads the Resistance to Exegol. You could probably just do this by changing some dialogue.
As for having Poe and Finn abandon Rey, here’s my idea, though I’m not sure if it’s possible: Have the heroes go straight from Kijimi to Kef-Bir. Then as Rey sneaks off to find the wayfinder, the Star Destroyer shows up and Finn (not Rey) is the one who senses Chewie’s alive and decides to go rescue him.
I noticed in your cutlist you said you’d “try to have Rey say ‘I’m no one, AND I’m all the Jedi.’” If it’s possible, you could be more concise and just have their exchange be
Palpatine: No one can defeat me!
Rey: And I’m no one.
Because, much like the “And I Am Iron Man” scene they were obviously trying to imitate here, the line “I’m no one” was actually set up in an earlier movie.
Here’s a quick follow-through on my previous idea:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oHvGi6Z0D9N7eaJjsbghEwpA6ziStd7G/view?usp=sharing
Basically just proof-of-concept (the audio isn’t mixed well), although I did do some color correction.
EddieDean said:
Firstly, imply more training.Agreed. I just don’t think from the beginning of TLJ is sufficient, given that already in TFA she–
a) flies the Falcon as well as Han, though it seems she’s never piloted a ship before;
b) resists Kylo’s Force-probing of her;
c) Force-compels others; and,
d) defeats Kylo-friggin’-Ren in her first-ever lightsaber duel.Secondly, lean into the ‘she’s using the dark’ angle. Luke explicitly says “You went straight to the dark” in TLJ
This is great, and thanks for the reminder of Luke’s line here.
Personally, I’d supplement this with someone else’s idea to have her kill her own parents accidentally.
I agree with most of this, but why do people keep saying Rey never flew a ship before? She specifically tells Finn that she has. Does it not count because it’s just one short line? Because if so, then why do we write off Luke “Bullseye Womprats in my T-16 back home” Skywalker’s ability as making sense? Thirty pilots went into the battle of Yavin, only three came out, and Luke was one of them.