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- The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Are there any AOTC edits that remove all references to Anakin and Padmé already knowing each other?
Are there any AOTC edits that remove all references to Anakin and Padmé already knowing each other?
Replace General Pryde with a CGI clone of Tarkin.
Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.
Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.
the result is nice, but what’s the point here?
Hopefully, to improve breakneck pacing of some of the scenes. I doubt most of them will work in the context of the whole movie, but I thought it was worth making these available to other fan editors in case they do.
Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.
Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8
None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.
Getting back on track, I know Snooker’s computer loss kind of prevented the possibility of any Naboo “elder heads” being motion-tracked onto Ajan Kloss, but I was thinking: what if in that shot of Rey staring off into the forest (just before they leave for Pasaana) she was looking at an elder head? It’s a stationary shot so theoretically it would be easier to add. I know a lot of people have moved past the “Ajan Kloss = Naboo” idea, but since Snooker already gave us that cool shot of Theed in the distance I don’t want to abandon it completely.
Edit: Nevermind, I just re-watched the scene and it turns out I was remembering it incorrectly: the camera does move in that shot, too.
I wouldn’t replace the medal with it, but it could be added as an Easter egg someplace.
I’d imagine it would’ve either been buried with Padmé (canon), or blowed up along with Alderaan (Hal9000 heretical bastard canon).
Did you just call yourself a heretical bastard?
That might work. I recently watched an edit that moves Palpatine’s reveal to the end of act 1, and while the cutaway kind of helps the “Scavenger Hunt” plot feel less hectic, it makes seeing Palpatine less shocking because you’ve had more time to settle into the rest of the story.
I’ve experimented with putting Palpatine’s message into the Last Jedi while saving his visual reveal for tRoS, but the only spot I can find is after the credits. I would hate for tLJ to spend 80% of its runtime being so bleak, and just when you think it’s going to end on a positive note, it turns out the big bad has returned from the dead with a promise of revenge. That feels cruel.You have a point about ending on a hopeful note, and while that wouldn’t work with Palpatine’s message, it would absolutely work with Kylo’s trip to Exegol. It’s something the protagonists don’t know about, and it shows that the antagonist has been weakened to the point of seeking outside help.
It took almost a month for me to get around to it, but I actually made a proof-of-concept for that idea.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R_FiQmvIdG02_SK_02LJMkNWoktKJy_t/view?usp=sharing
That looks awesome! I’d also be interested in seeing “cinematic” video game footage used to show the destruction of the Tantive IV, since when I first saw the movie I didn’t even realize the ship went down.
There’ve been so many adjustments made to the ending scene, does anyone have a version of the “Rey Skywalker” shot with the background removed?
Speaking of Exegol, do we know if there’s any recording of Threepio saying the word “Korriban” (or “Moraband”)? The way they introduced the idea of Exegol in the movie kind of gave me the impression they had just forgotten about Korriban, and I only later realized it was important to the story for Exegol to be a planet nobody had ever been to before. I think if after “the lost world of the Sith” Threepio said something like “where they went after the siege of Korriban, and supposedly remain to this day” then it would be a lot clearer.
Interesting. We’d probably need to find some shots of Coruscant citizens reacting to the lightning so that the setting doesn’t feel arbitrary. I know there’s a shot in AOTC of some aliens on coruscant looking up at the sky in surprise, and I guess a few more could be composited using shots of cloud city.
Also, what would this edit do with the “search for Exegol” story? Would the Wayfinder be replaced with some other artifact, or would it turn out to be a red herring?
What I would do for a LOTR style Extended edition of the Sequels.
I know, right? You’d think that after one three-hour movie (Return of the King) tops the box office and wins best picture in the same year, and another one (Avengers: Endgame) becomes the highest-grossing film of all time, studios would become more comfortable with it.
Since so many people are contributing some impressive FX shots for edits of tRoS, I was wondering if anyone on this thread knew anyone who could make a shot of Luke’s saber hitting the ground for any TLJ edit that has Luke drop the saber instead of throwing it.
Mask in a few of the clone troopers and have them aim their firearms at the younglings instead of Anakin/Vader murdering them in the Temple purge scene.
I actually had a similar idea: Have an audio clip of him saying “I’ve found them” before clone troopers walk in, indicating that, even though he didn’t kill them, he sold them out.
This is probably a bad idea, but…
What if we were to rename Ben Solo to “Bail Solo” (after Bail Organa) and change every utterance of his name accordingly? It would still match the lip movements, and it would make more sense for Han and Leia to name their son that. The problem is it might undercut some of the emotional impact of that name because most of the time, when he’s referred to as “Ben,” it’s used to show his humanity, because Ben is a common name while Bail isn’t. I was considering posting this to “Worst Edit Ideas,” but I realized there might actually be a place for it in a more lore-focused edit. What do you think?
When Ben gets Anakin’s lightsaber, have one of the Knights of Ren say “On second thought, we surrender” and then never show them again, implying they just let Ben go and then ran away.
Would it make sense to change Palpatine’s line “The Princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plans” to “The Queen of Alderaan…”? On one hand, the audience knows her as a princess and it wouldn’t make sense to be crowned the queen of a planet that no longer exists, but on the other hand… after all that time, not to mention the death of her parents, wouldn’t she be considered a queen, at least in the eyes of the few remaining Alderaanians?
- Meeting D-O: I would cut all lines relating to D-O being abused, as it’s not relevant to the story and the social politics can really take viewers out of the movie. Star Wars isn’t timely, it’s timeless.
hate to end on a controversial scene but this is all just my opinion anyway.
How is “he was treated badly” social politics? Sure, animal rights are an issue that people debate sometimes, but all I got from D-O’s introduction was “animal abuse is a thing that also happens to droids.” That’s not much of a statement.
I’ve noticed that a lot of edits are trying to make the it more evident that Luke’s sacrifice was what inspired people to rise up against the First Order, so what if TRoS opened with the Broom Boy scene from TLJ? Or, if we just used the first half of it, and then showed the second half in place of Endor in the Star Destroyer montage at the end?
Somehow make it clear that the Lars homestead is actually an acronym for the “Look At Rey Skywalker” homestead.
I’m not sure if anyone wants to make an edit that removes the old woman and the ghosts from the ending entirely, but I used some masking and added a bit from the Idirhh/ChaseAddams alternate “Rey Skywalker” take to shorten the scene. Now, Rey is simply looking sentimentally at the sunrise before flying off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-20dPbubR8&feature=youtu.be
Can I get a link?
Is there a map that looks like Exegol in the game? Because I think it would be great to extend the duel between Ben and the Knights of Ren and with all the lightning it might be possible to slip some video game footage in there unnoticed.
I think it’s a cinematic trailer for the Rise of Skywalker update, and by the looks of it I think it’s Ajan Kloss though I’m not sure if that’s a map in the game.
You know, I actually think using her lightning would actually be a good resolution to the story.
I mean, throughout the movie she is absolutely afraid of her inner dark side. So much so that she tries to exile herself to Ahch-To. She isn’t afraid of Palpatine, she’s afraid of herself and what she is capable of. I actually could see it being satisfying to realize she doesn’t have to afraid of herself if she acknowledges the dark side within her.
If you think about it, that has always been the flaw of the Jedi. They’ve taught their students that their emotions are dangerous, and their dark side is something to be feared. Ben Solo thinks that because the dark side is in his nature, that he is a monster and can’t go back to his mother.
The Sith, on the other hand, totally let their negative emotions control them. They’re consumed with hate, greed, and selfishness. They’ve let their Shadow-self take over.
But a balanced person has to find a healthy relationship with their emotions, between their self and their shadow-self. Someone who bottles up their emotions, like the Jedi did, are much more likely to let their shadow-self consume them, like Anakin or Ben, because they didn’t cultivate a healthy relationship with their repressed shadow. So this has given the Jedi the mistaken idea that the dark side will corrupt instantaneously.
Someone described integrating your shadow as “having weapons and the ability to use them, but being determined to keep them sheathed”. Being totally harmless isn’t a balanced way to live. Instead, it is having the ability to defend yourself when necessary, and choosing not to harm others even when you have the power to do so.
I’m actually beginning to think not having Rey actively destroy Palpatine is actually the wrong path. Rey, Luke, and other Jedi killed plenty of people in self defense. Why is it suddenly bad for Rey to kill literally the embodiment of evil?
And I think that would make Rey’s yellow lightsaber work well. Rey has the power to protect others, but she has control of it (represented by it being contained by the hilt).
And just as the conscious mind can put the questions, “Why is there this frightful conflict between good and evil?,” so the unconscious can reply, “Look closer! Each needs the other. The best, just because it is the best, holds the seed of evil, and there is nothing so bad but good can come of it. (Jung 133).”
It’s an interesting idea to ponder but I feel like it’s too radical a change to the mythos for an edit to attempt. Knowledge and defense, never attack, etc. The problem is not that Rey kills the most evil guy, it’s that the final climatic moment of the saga is a Jedi killing someone. It felt much more fitting when Luke threw his saber in ROTJ and Vader sacrificed himself for him. Especially coming off TLJ where Luke saves the day without hurting a fly, and they spell out that the message is ‘save with love, not fight with hate.’
Anyway, if you’re serious about this idea it’d probably help if you have Leia repeat “never be afraid of who you are” right as Rey strikes the fatal blow.
This is a late reply, but I think that could be fixed by changing the pacing of that scene. Maybe cut out the shot of Rey pushing the lightsabers forward toward Palpatine, and/or have Palpatine’s last big burst of lightning come right before he gets obliterated. Something to make it clearer that he’s destroying himself in his hubris, and all Rey’s doing is defending herself.